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Discussion in 'Audio and Video' started by Jase123, Sep 11, 2007.

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  1. AlbertLionheart TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,711

    AlbertLionheart, Sep 14, 2007
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  2. mailpup TS Special Forces Posts: 7,908   +77

    I think I see a couple of problems here. The lesser problem is the jumper issue. Do you have another IDE device, such as a CD drive, attached to the same cable as the hard drive? If so, device on the end of the cable should be set to master and the middle device should be set to slave. If your system supports cable select and you wish to use it, BOTH devices should be set to CS.

    The other issue is you are using a hard drive that was installed and formatted on another motherboard. The hard drive has drivers for and is configured for the old motherboard. When you switched motherboards, you need to perform a Windows repair or if that doesn't work, reformat and reinstall Windows on the hard drive. Unless the new motherboard is identical to the old one, it is not a plug and play device.

    In the BIOS set the first boot device as your CD drive, save and exit. Put the Windows CD into the drive tray and reboot. Go from there.

    One other issue you might encounter is activating Windows after the reinstall. An OEM version is tied to the original motherboard it was installed with. Technically you aren't supposed to be able to install it with any other motherboard. You might have to telephone Microsoft to activate Windows and I suppose there is a possibility they won't let you. Then you would have to buy another copy. If you have a retail version of Windows, you should not have that problem.
    mailpup, Sep 14, 2007
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  3. AlbertLionheart TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,711

    Hi mailpup. If you look at the first post, Jase123 says he installed a copy of XP on this drive using the existing board. What is happening (if I understand what he is saying) is that he cannot get into the system without an F1 and sometimes a reboot.
    AlbertLionheart, Sep 14, 2007
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  4. Rolfman TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 125

    Ok... This thread woul've been a lot shorter if you would've followed the guidelines

    How many hard drives do you have?

    Have you tryed setting the jumper fo Cable select setting
    and then setted the bios for optimized defaults?

    Did you made enough presurre at the other end of the cable by the mother board?

    Did you drop the Daam thing?

    Does the IDE cable on ly has that hard drive connected?(no other IDE devices)

    -------
    sometimes , if you have two hard drives with , the umpers wrongfully
    setup a conflict occurs.
    Rolfman, Sep 14, 2007
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  5. mailpup TS Special Forces Posts: 7,908   +77

    Albert, this quote is from post #11. This is what leads me to believe when he put in a new motherboard (as his first post says), he just tried to connect the existing hard drive (with XP already installed with the old mobo) and boot up. Unless the new motherboard and the old one are identical or nearly so, he is likely to have trouble.

    In his original post he never said he installed XP at his time, only that he connected his hard drive. Maybe that's what he meant but that's not what he said. So if he only connected his hard drive without repairing or formatting, that would be consistent with his hard drive not being recognized.

    That said, I could have misinterpreted what he said since it has been difficult to follow and understand his posts.
    mailpup, Sep 14, 2007
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  6. AlbertLionheart TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,711

    Hi mailpup
    sorry - I got the wrong post number. I agree he tried to boot using is old OS but finally did a new install. I just not sure how he did it.
    If he checks the jumpers and they are OK I think it has to be the motherboard.
    AlbertLionheart, Sep 14, 2007
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  7. Jase123 Banned Posts: 1,126

    hi thanks for all the info and yes i do have a dvd/rw on the same ide cable do i need set that to slave? and i just put the new motherboard in and booted but since i have done a fresh install
    Jase123, Sep 14, 2007
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  8. AlbertLionheart TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,711

    If you have two drives on one ribbon cable then one must be a master and the other must be a slave. You can set the drives to CS (cable select) which makes it automatic.
    It is generally not a good idea to mix hard drives and optical drives on the same ribbon cable as this will slow down the hard drive.
    AlbertLionheart, Sep 14, 2007
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  9. Gosugod Newcomer, in training Posts: 56

    You should have two IDE cables



    ||||||||||||||||[]|||||[] <-------Optical drive set to master
    ||||||||||||||||[]|||||[] <-------

    ||||||||||||||||[]|||||[] <-------Hard drive set to master
    ||||||||||||||||[]|||||[]
    Gosugod, Sep 14, 2007
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  10. mailpup TS Special Forces Posts: 7,908   +77

    Most new motherboards now come with only one PATA (IDE) controller. That might be the case here but that's another thing for Jase to clear up.
    mailpup, Sep 14, 2007
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  11. Gosugod Newcomer, in training Posts: 56

    Oh I actually didn't know that. Is that because they have two for SATA?
    Gosugod, Sep 14, 2007
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  12. mailpup TS Special Forces Posts: 7,908   +77

    Usually two or more SATA controllers, sometimes six or eight.
    mailpup, Sep 14, 2007
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  13. AlbertLionheart TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,711

    It won't be long before it is all SATA and all this will be a thing of the past. As anyone come across a bad SATA cable? - I've used hundreds and never a bad one yet.
    AlbertLionheart, Sep 15, 2007
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  14. Cinders TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 1,312   +12

    Finally, please remove the DVD-RW from the cable and set the hard drive to master. Go buy another cable and attach it to your DVD-RW and then attach it to the second IDE header. The reason your motherboard is confused is your DVD-RW is set as master when your hard drive should be set to master and it should be alone or with another hard drive on that cable. An IDE cable can only have one master drive on it at a time, so when you set the hard drive as a second master you confused the motherboard. This is the situation I suspected a long time ago and had you answered my question a while back we could have resolved this by now. Naughty Naughty boy!
    Cinders, Sep 17, 2007
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  15. Rolfman TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 125

    Check your Board.

    There should be an IDE 1 and an IDE 2 Slot.
    the reason i asked if you had any other IDE drive installed was just because of that reason...

    Even thou the Mobo shouldnt get confused so easely by having an optical
    divre crossed with a storage device , it should work ''ok'' if you have your
    jumpers set up the right way. But its not adviseable , due to the fact that
    some detection issues that may occur.

    Usually ''and i dont really know why'' , Mobo's tend to respond quicker if you have a hard drive marked as ''CS''.

    But you Should try and follow cynders resumed instrucctions ,
    get an extra cable and use it to connect your storage drives only.
    Use the other one for Optical and Other IDE devices.

    :suspiciou ***also , wen you get the cables , connect the Drives
    Into the IDE 1 port of your Mobo , and the optical devices , set them into
    IDE 2. After that ... get into your Bios and set it for optimised defaults.

    that should do the trick.........
    Remember to give us a follow up wen you're done...
    Good Luck Mate**:wave: **
    Rolfman, Sep 18, 2007
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  16. Jase123 Banned Posts: 1,126

    Well my current pc is down atm .... wating for a replacement motherboard.

    Let you all know soon

    Regards Jase
    Jase123, Sep 18, 2007
    #36
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