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Origin announces phase change cooling for Genesis desktop

By Jos
Jan 11, 2012
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  1. High-end gaming computers are usually underrepresented at CES but Origin PC has stepped into the plate with a revised version of its Genesis desktop, which now supports overclocking to a…

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  2. dividebyzero

    dividebyzero trainee n00b Posts: 4,891   +1,258

    Nice. Great to see an OEM using a modder/case builders design (Little Devil) instead of one of the mainstream chassis builders.
     
  3. Wendig0

    Wendig0 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,106   +97

    I'm glad to see the guys that founded Alienware are back at it again. Before Dell took them over they were the tits. I've still got my old og Alienware system from back in the day.

    P.S. I know Origin has been around for a couple years, but rarely see any news about them.
     
  4. amstech

    amstech TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 1,457   +606

    And what happens when the factory overclock stops working and tweaks need to be made to the BIOS/overclock settings?
    Send it back in for them to tweak it so 4 months later it does the same thing?

    I own a 2600K, 720 X3 and i7 930 and I've been overclocking for 12 years, it used to be a challenge.
    It's much easier today and an average illterate can overclock now but some tuning is usually needed.
    No chip/settings are guaranteed. Ever.
     
  5. dividebyzero

    dividebyzero trainee n00b Posts: 4,891   +1,258

    From the article:
    Unless the hardware is broken it would be reasonable to assume that their techs would walk a person through any stability problems. If you're building an overclocked system for sale (and I've done a few hundred) you make sure the voltages are high enough to maintain the OC for a reasonable time. You also explain to the customer about maintenance. OC's fail more often than not because of allowing dust buildup over components (esp cooling), component creep and a failing PSU.
    It might also be reasonable to assume that the person buying a phase-change cooled PC (or high end water) might not be a complete tech noobie.
    Nope. But I'd say that the percentage of builds I put together that require resetting voltages are in the 1-2% range...and I don't have the luxury of being able to discard and replace (enthusiast/performance) parts from a well supplied stockroom. The "failure" rate is probably a lot lower than any OEM's generic offerings.
     
  6. amstech

    amstech TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 1,457   +606



    If only it was that simple.

    Too much voltage, even a tiny bit more to "make sure" is a terrible idea no tech would advise. It can cause certain parts to run hotter then they should, caps to swell/break and shorten the life of components, if not damage them. Proper voltage must be maintained and regulated for healthy and solid overclocks.

    And you don't sound like you've built many PC's.
    And don't confuse build with tune/setup.
    Anyone can put together a PC. Not shooting anyone down, just saying.

    These issues have NOTHING to do with overclocking/tuning an overclock.

    These issues have NOTHING to do with overclocking/tuning an overclock.

     
  7. Burty117

    Burty117 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,920   +687

    amstech, you really are playing with fire there, and to be honest, you kinda sound dumb in your arguement back. Yes, parts may run hotter than they should, but if they are designed to be at a higher temp than a "normal" setup then it makes no odds, and in this particular case, i doubt Origin have skimpt on the Motherboard.
     
  8. dividebyzero

    dividebyzero trainee n00b Posts: 4,891   +1,258

    Overclocking requires no overvolting. Wow, what a concept.
    It's about time that hardware companies started looking into this phenomena don't you think. Do you think that's why Origin are using phase change rather than a stock cooler ?
    EVERY X79 board built is using solid capacitors...solid caps don't "swell", and the only breakage issues I've ever seen with modern VRM's is some isolated rust issues with solid chokes on older X58/P55 boards.
    Yeah , thanks for the info. The art of overclocking is getting the greatest amount of performance out of the lowest possible bump in input power. Maybe you're confusing "make sure the voltages are high enough to maintain the OC" with "just force a sh*tload of voltage into it and hope for the best"
    Only a few hundred
    Pretentious much?
    You seem to be living proof.
    Q.E.D. (BTW the word is illiterate, not illterate) , Ah, but can an average illerate work out HTML tags ? ( I'm noting the way you've attributed my comments as your own in post #6) ;)
    Not shooting anyone down ? Except for taking pot shots you mean ? or is there some confusion due to the semi-lterate nature of your posting?
    Degrading cooling ability has nothing to do with maintaining an overclock? So a dust clogged radiator/TEC heat exchanger will still effectively cool an overclocked part ? A ageing PSU losing it's efficiency can still power any overclock it could maintain when new?, an "average illterate" knows instinctively that the reboot loop/BSoD they've just undergone can be narrowed down to one cause ?

    @Burty117
    No skimping. If you check the second photo >>here<< you'll notice that the board in an Asus Rampage IV Extreme with EK waterblocks over the MOSFETS and chipset as well as the phase change CPU cooling.
     
  9. Burty117

    Burty117 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,920   +687

    wow, they really have gone all out on this one haven't they?
    I don't think Heat is going to be too much of a problem somehow in this case :)
     
  10. Trillionsin

    Trillionsin TS Evangelist Posts: 1,324   +136

    nobody posted about its starting price? 1,337
     
  11. amstech

    amstech TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 1,457   +606

    Lol at dividebyzero.
    Go get'em champ!

    The the price isn't crazy ridiculous for once.
    Surprising.
     
  12. amstech

    amstech TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 1,457   +606

    Caps made to handle higher amount of voltage can still be over-volted.

    If i sound dumb what does that make you look like?
    And its "argument", not "arguement".
     
  13. dividebyzero

    dividebyzero trainee n00b Posts: 4,891   +1,258

    And? *blank stare*

    The "If" is redundant.
    Burty117's reasoning is sound, even if his grammar isn't 100%. 1-of-2 beats your 0-of-2. I'd say Burty's well ahead on points.

    I'm not sure retreating into semi-illterate grammar nazi mode, because your OTT and poorly executed commentary proved to be as viable as a cardboard submarine makes that much sense tbh.
    I think trillionsin was referring to the "leet-speak" 1337 tag. The $1337 is for the entry level air-cooled version.

    EDIT: And to the post below...
    Note the italics...Note the use of italics in the variations of the word illiterate....Note the use of italics and the deliberate misspelling of the word illiterate in use after your illterate post....Note the concept of the "running gag" passing way above your head
     
  14. amstech

    amstech TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 1,457   +606

    You spelled illiterate wrong again, your not nearly as tech savy as you think, you don't overvolt anything I don't care what cooling/tech the board has. You comment on sites to make it sound like your really intelligent and its funny as hell. Your an average techie at best.
    Please stop.
     
  15. Amstech, you're really just insulting yourself, and degrading you're own intelligence now. I'd concede if I were you.
     
  16. mailpup

    mailpup TS Special Forces Posts: 6,980   +362

    I think this thread has had enough personal comments. Any more posts containing personal comments could disappear in their entirety. Thanks for your cooperation.
     
  17. Interesting price, $1,337.
     

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