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Overclocking a GeForce 4 TI4600

By negroplasty
Feb 23, 2003
  1. Inspired from the idea from the TS home page, I am curious about overclocking my 4600 (without volt-modding). Does anyone know any sites/people that could help me in this task? I am serious about this, I am not just some ***** (as dumb as I may be) who won't take the proper precautions.
     
  2. Svoboda

    Svoboda TS Rookie Posts: 92

    Well some sites that might help:
    overclockers.com
    http://www.tweak3d.net/articles/voc/ (specific article)
    techspot.com (if they have any info on it)

    Then you have to dl a program that lets you overclock. Many programs exist, such as powerstrip lol and thats the only one I can think of. They allow you to change your memory and processor speeds (on your GPU of course). Its mostly trial and error, bump up the MHz by 5-10 then run an intensive test like 3Dmark, and see if you have any artifacts, or if it crashes. If none of the above happens you can keep going up...
     
  3. negroplasty

    negroplasty TS Maniac Topic Starter Posts: 537   +12

    Thanks Svoboda. You've saved me!
     
  4. negroplasty

    negroplasty TS Maniac Topic Starter Posts: 537   +12

    Hey great news! I managed to get an increase of 50 3D Marks in 3DMark03 from just a 12MHz increase of both engine and memory on my video card. Games also seem to run a lot better!! I definitely recommend this to all of you with a TI4600. I am not going to risk taking it any higher without additional cooling. My results are as follows:

    default :1618
    raised 2MHz :1613
    raised 4MHz :1616
    raised 6MHz :1630
    raised 8MHz :1643
    raised 10MHz :1651
    raised 12MHz :1665

    Bare in mind that I had a lot of applications running in the background (same ones each time) and used the 41.09 detonator drivers from nvidia. Not bad ey?
     
  5. Nick

    Nick TS Rookie Posts: 216

    big increase... ;o i had a 150 mhz increase on my gf3 ti200 (memory clock) and a 70 mhz increase in my clock speed... i think youll be able to pump that more =P
     
  6. negroplasty

    negroplasty TS Maniac Topic Starter Posts: 537   +12

    Impressive, do you not have any exta fans/heatsinks attached? I have to be careful not to raise anything too high, I'm not in the greatest financial way at the moment. What would you say is a safe increase without extra cooling?
     
  7. Svoboda

    Svoboda TS Rookie Posts: 92

    Yea you should be able to get much more out of your GF than 12 mhz. I don't remember the exact specifics of my overclocking experience iwth my 4200, but it was at least 50 mhz on both clock and memory.

    Post your default speeds (ie proc - 275, memory - 300) or whatever, and then we might be able to recomend some safe high speeds. By the way, what brand is your video card, and does it seem to have a high quality fan/heat sink on it?
     
  8. StormBringer

    StormBringer TS Rookie Posts: 2,871

    Well, seeing as most cards come with a very cheaply made fan, I wouldn't OC at all until getting a better fan. That is just my opinion, though I do tend to try to keep everything more cool than necessary, rather than push my luck with the shoddy quality of an HSF.
     
  9. negroplasty

    negroplasty TS Maniac Topic Starter Posts: 537   +12

    My default speeds are:

    memory: 648MHz
    engine :300MHz

    It is an OEM package, I believe it is VisionTek. The fan appears to be quite good quality as well.
     
  10. Nick

    Nick TS Rookie Posts: 216

    my gf3 ti200 is a visiontek as well... it has stock cooling (cant take off hs on visiontek cards, they are glued on)
     
  11. negroplasty

    negroplasty TS Maniac Topic Starter Posts: 537   +12

    I'm quite sure that my fan can be taken off, are you sure it's not just a GeForce 3 thing?
     
     
  12. negroplasty

    negroplasty TS Maniac Topic Starter Posts: 537   +12

    Yes, I was right, I just checked now and it looks like it can be removed. I would have a closer look to be sure, if I could actually get my card out! Its super glued in there (not literally). Does anyone have any ideas on how I could get my video card out without ripping my motherboard out at the same time?
     
  13. Svoboda

    Svoboda TS Rookie Posts: 92

    Um yea AGP cards can sometimes be quite hard to get out. Just turn the case on its side, with the computer off of course, make sure your grounded, and grip the card firmly with both hands. Use strong force but not excessive you'll probably not break it.

    Oh yeah, make sure you take out the screw holding in the card and the monitor cable in the back.
     
  14. StormBringer

    StormBringer TS Rookie Posts: 2,871

    Yes you can take it off. You must carefully pry it off.
     
  15. negroplasty

    negroplasty TS Maniac Topic Starter Posts: 537   +12

    Okay, I finally got my card out, and the fan can definitely be removed. I'm not taking it off until I have a replacement though (in case I can't get it back on). Does anyone know any places to buy a good cooling system for my GPU? If only I could get the FX FLOW! That would be nice.:D
     
  16. StormBringer

    StormBringer TS Rookie Posts: 2,871

    here
    This one looks really nice here
     
  17. Cucumber

    Cucumber TS Rookie Posts: 203

    Taking the heatsink off a graphics card is very simple. Put it in a sealed plastic container, and pop it in the freezer for an hour of so. This will make the glue freeze and become brittle, so easy to pop off. :)

    And personally, id recommend the Zalman Heat Pipe for the cooling, as your not going to get much more out of that graphics card with better cooling. Your looking at maybe 30mhz core, 70mhz out of the RAM, tops.

    So this thing will keep it cool enough, and is passive, so cuts down on those annoying noisy fans ;)

    Zalman Graphics Card Cooler
     
  18. negroplasty

    negroplasty TS Maniac Topic Starter Posts: 537   +12

    Thanks for all the help. I think that the Zalman Graphics Card Cooler and the one StormBringer described as really nice are the same. Will these heatpipe coolers keep my card as cool as a water cooling system? Because I was thinking of purchasing one if I can find one that's not too pricey. And one more question, will I have to remove the fan from my GPU in order to install these heatpipe coolers?
     
  19. Cucumber

    Cucumber TS Rookie Posts: 203

    Yer you will have to remove the fans to install the heatpipe,

    ...now its going to be nothing compared to watercooling! But there is no point in simply watercooling a gfx card...only look into it if you are considering cooling the whole system! :)
     
  20. negroplasty

    negroplasty TS Maniac Topic Starter Posts: 537   +12

    Hmm, sounds very appealing!! But I'm affraid the budget won't allow a fully water cooled system at the moment, it's either going to be the NV30 or the heatpipe. (NV30 will get better performance than a water cooled 4600) In the end, I will end up buying the heatpipe cooler; and about a couple months after the release of the NV30, buying that :) . Man that card is hot!
     
  21. Cucumber

    Cucumber TS Rookie Posts: 203

    Hot..being the main word in that sentence! I presume you haven't seen the reviews on that thing...head on over to
    AnAndTech

    Firstly 9700Pro is a better card, for less money...and you not going to get hold of a Ultra version of the card, as Nvidia will not be sending out any other than those pre-ordered (due to that fact it sucks for the price, and makes more noise than your average CPU cooler)

    So yes...get hold of a 9700Pro, once the 9800 hits the shelves(as the price will drop)....and i gurantee, you cannot go wrong!

    ...but you ent gonna be gettin a GeForceFX Ultra matey ;) maybe the non-ultra...but thats even further behind the 9700Pro
     
  22. negroplasty

    negroplasty TS Maniac Topic Starter Posts: 537   +12

    I have seen the reviews, but what everyone is failing to notice is this on the last post. Don't get me wrong though, I have nothing against ATi, it's just that I'm the type of person who stays with the same company:D. + I have heard of their driver problems;) ;). But who knows, maybe the 9800 will change my mind!!
     
  23. Mr.Guvernment

    Mr.Guvernment TS Rookie Posts: 85

  24. Mr.Guvernment

    Mr.Guvernment TS Rookie Posts: 85


    The "excuse" of drives problems is OLD and dead! - so find a new excuse - i own both ATi and NVIDIA.
    it is the only thing NVIDIA user had left to try and put down ATI cause ATI is know kicking the crap out of NVIDIA.

    also, i have never ONCE had a driver issue related to ATI - where as i have had NUMEROUS!! b.s.o.d's due to nvidia drivers.
     
  25. Arris

    Arris TS Evangelist Posts: 4,601   +110

    Ditto.
     
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