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Overheating Problem

By rjp0615
Jul 26, 2007
  1. rjp0615

    rjp0615 TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 17

    no overclock, and the board came in an intel box, its an intel board with a third party chipset.
     
  2. Daveskater

    Daveskater Banned Posts: 2,031

    to monitor the temps from in windows you can use motherboard monitor 5 (aka mbm 5), it puts icons in the taskbar for the temps of your cpu and system temp
     
  3. rjp0615

    rjp0615 TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 17

    i used the speed fan app, and it gave me a reading on the cpu of 40c and the remote reading was 86c, and kept increasing. what is the remote reading for?
     
  4. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 11,055   +970

    Whoops

    I stand
    Humbly, corrected
     
  5. sghiznaneck

    sghiznaneck TS Maniac Posts: 544

    Your best bet is to shut it down, pull the heat sink fan and processor (be careful removing the heat sink fan), clean the old thermal paste/pad with some rubbing alcohol and repeat the process on the heat sink. Then liberally apply Artic Silver thermal paste on both and reseat the processor and heat sink. Remember to line the chip up with the Northbridge (little arrow on the processor enclosure. Most chips also have the arrow). Don't force the chip or you'll have a hell of a time straightening the pins out. If that happens, I found that the easiest way to do it is with a utility razor blade. That way, it will fit in between the rows of pins. This happened to me when I ordered parts to build a pc for a customer. The pins were bent, so I found this was the only option. Don't force them if this DOES happen or they will break off contact with the chip and it won't be any good anymore.
    If this doesn't work, it could be the the temp probe.
     
  6. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 11,055   +970

    What Changed ????

    My impression here is that the machine was working fine, then it screwed up. At least that's what I took away from your original post. What changed? The reports about temps you're giving are all over the map. At one point you say that the processor is at 40C, that's perfect. I wish I understood what was meant by remote, (the high reading). If you were just cruising along, no problem, then one day it decided to start over heating, something had to change. A fan is not running, the board is not controlling the proc fan correctly, the power supply fan quit, or my personal favorite, the heatsink push pins have fallen out, loosened up, or something. The thermal material has failed. But, I need you to examine the sequence of events more carefully, and try to fill in the background a bit more for us.
     
  7. rjp0615

    rjp0615 TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 17

    well its been like this since ive built it, its not a fresh problem and has been going on for a year, im guessing the remote reading is possibly reading one of the cores, and not the other, because i have a perfect reading on speedfan, but the remote reading is near that of my processor reading in the bios... both of my power supply fans work, if its a bad mobo, i might as well toss the whole thing as this was built to be an economy computer... i dont feel comfortable about the thermal grease stuff, but my heat sink has come lose before and with the damn plastic pins i had to pull the mobo out and pull them in from behind, because when my heat sink comes loose it won't boot past post, it just shuts off, i wish i had the slightest clue, because i cant even rip cds without an overheat.
     
  8. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 11,055   +970

    Disposability, it's the nature of modern products......

    I've you've had to yank on heatsink pins from beneath, in addition to having them fall out, it doesn't stretch the imagination very far to picture the HSF not making proper contact.
    Nylon (the pin material) wears fairly easily, and the HSF should be your prime suspect. Here's Arctic Silver's instruction page: http://www.arcticsilver.com/ins_route_step2intelas5.html Note that there are different instructions for dual processors.
    You're needs might be better served by one of the bolt-in aftermarket HSFs, Zalman or Thermaltake Orb series. They're HUGE, make sure you have the room BEFORE you spring for one.
    Windows Home has an update for multi-core processors. Does task manager show two processors? That's all I got at the moment.
     
  9. rjp0615

    rjp0615 TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 17

    yes, task manager shows 2 processors, the arctic silver stuff seems kinda risky, imo.. so you think an aftermarket heat sink will help me?
     
  10. rjp0615

    rjp0615 TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 17

    update: updated bios,and no change
     
  11. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 11,055   +970

    The most likely thing is......

    You seem to be avoiding the issue. For better or worse, when an overheating problem arises, and nothing is obviously broken, (fan fell out of case, went up in smoke, like that), you need to address the heat sink issue first, before tackling anything else. I updated my BIOS, and the overheating problem went away, is the least likely of all successful scenarios.
     
     
  12. rjp0615

    rjp0615 TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 17

    hahaha, you got a point there, but i figured if it was temp probe glitch the bios update would fix it.
     
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