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Page fault in non page area & IRWL not less or equal?

By King_Uzi
Apr 12, 2008
  1. OKay, i was writing this, but the stupid machine blue screened on me. I realise now i have 2 problems on my computer.

    1 Page fault in none page area.

    Mine occurs when i leave my computer idle for a while.. about 13minutes it blues on me :( (*****!). It's a okaish system - runs perfectly well when it runs well, quick, efficient etc. but start up time = 2mins or so, firefox takes 1minute itself to load up.. general tasks aren't too bad, and, i do have all the security updates...

    i just tried to do a nod 32 virus scan but, guess what Mr Blue paid a visit.. i was at the time writing this msg on page fault, but it did the memory dump and i recorded the message of irql not less or equal... so, decided not to do the cirus scan again and write this up.

    P4 2.14Ghz
    512 (original) + 256
    but my fan/back of my computer does get quite hot
    (though, i can hear, when my computer starts up, it sounds like some 'areas' when it's starting the load up doesn't want to start.. could this mean a bust area on my ram or something?

    So i have 2 faults:
    page fault in non page area (i have no idea what this means or how to overcome it)
    irql not less or equal (is it possible to edit the code to change the computers action when it's not less or equal to :p)

    Thanks for your time guys. ANd espesh for you, i'll write my intro into this thread as well :)

    King = my delusional ego (lol)
    Uzi = Usman = my name (it really is us man! [sic])
    computer = Acer G600 (paid 450quid with xp home +++ installed extra ram, but don't know any technical stuff to improve the performance of my processor (any help pls?)

    Regarding my IRQL problem
    i managed to get this code from the memory dump, the message box when error reporting (before it ssaid "error, can't send message" for some confusing and unclear reason)
    n.b the below code is for the irql error.. had i known it was in the error reporting box that i could 'copy', i would not have wasted my hand energy, my ink or my powers of observation and thought (let alone pen ink!) to write the message down by hand..

    n.b. is this binary code? I did computing for 1 yr and learnt about it.. i think i can decipher the message if it is binary coded decimal... anything more advanced than that and i wave yte goodbye
    lol

    Byeeeee, and please help?
    Uzi (who is not King (on here anyway) (H) lol

    BCCode : a BCP1 : 0000004F BCP2 : 00000002 BCP3 : 00000000
    BCP4 : 804EB977 OSVer : 5_1_2600 SP : 2_0 Product : 256_1
     
  2. Route44

    Route44 TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 11,966   +70

    0x00000050: PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA
    Requested data was not in memory. An invalid system memory address was referenced. Defective memory (including main memory, L2 RAM cache, video RAM) or incompatible software (including remote control and antivirus software) might cause this Stop message, as may other hardware problems (e.g., incorrect SCSI termination or a flawed PCI card).

    An IRQL crash is usually due to a system driver/device driver trying to access a memory reference it has no business doing. In other words, it is creating a conflict by accessing an area it shouldn't and thus causing crashes.

    * Right now we don't have enough information to even venture a guess as to what is causing these issues. In this particular forum there is a sticky by Julio about before posting your minidumps, etc. that I strongly suggest to read and follow the advice.

    Keep us uptodate and if none of the suggestions help get back to us.
     
  3. King_Uzi

    King_Uzi TS Rookie Topic Starter

    thank you so much for your help. I will do as advised and get back to you. In the meantime i think i'll restore the original window start-up settings.. (i changed the image with the 'loading green bar' age with tuneup 2007 that i removed a while ago when i saw this.

    i'm going to run regdoctor now and see if that helps..
    thanks again dude
    Uzi :)
     
  4. King_Uzi

    King_Uzi TS Rookie Topic Starter

    hmm... why does a nod 32 scan of C: make my computer crash?
    n.b. i ran regcure that helped with the registry side of things.. found a lot of errors.
     
  5. Route44

    Route44 TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 11,966   +70

    That is a good question on the NOD32. I run it myself and it is one the best of the best. What version are you running? Try the following:

    1. Run ChkDsk in your Run box.

    2. Run a full harddrive diagnostics on your harddrive. Your harddrive manufacturer will have a free utility. This will take time but well worth it.

    3. It could be you are infected. Try accessing some of the free online scans such as Bit Defender and Trend Micro.

    4. You may need to do a full Windows repair but you need the physical disk.
     
  6. King_Uzi

    King_Uzi TS Rookie Topic Starter

    yeh, i'm running checkdisk,
    if needs be i got XP pro disk about, f***ing mate took it ages ago the ***** boy.
    am running check disk now,
    #what?
    it was in the progess of stage 2 and and the command prompt just shutdown on me :s
    Am using cracked version of NOD 3.0.650.0database is up2date as far as im aware..
     
  7. King_Uzi

    King_Uzi TS Rookie Topic Starter

    okay, so, a few errors were completed and fixed.. but it just shutdown after it said verification complete...?

    I think i do have a virus on ym computer, but it's not a ordinary virus... it may move about. i did 1 nod test yesterday, before blue screen it found 1 critical error.. went on and then crashed only after it went past the stage where the 'virus' was found. SO the virus has either moved or it has been eliminated.. not eli because i got blue screen last night.

    i did it again 5mins later, and before it blue screened on me, it did pass the isolation, but the virus wasn't found.. ?
     
  8. King_Uzi

    King_Uzi TS Rookie Topic Starter

    Hello to all readers.

    I got fed up with SP 3 not being installed onto my computer, it kept on crashing. SO i took measures to clean the pc. Pulled it out of the corner, cleaned the corner of dust and opened up my PC to find SO MUCH DUST!!! Phew.. I swear no word of a lie, there was a whole 2mm coat of dust on the wires, to the circuit boards and RAM.. my 512 stick had a 3mm dust coat across half of the stick length..

    I cleaned it with a duster, a hoover and a paint brush. I took my RAM out and sucked up the dust.. paint brush i put the hoover head onto the paintbrush and sucked the dust up in the tight gaps.. but most of all the fan - the fan had so much dust it's sick.

    I ended up unscrewing the computer fan to clean it properly. the fan inside was really duty as well. paintbrush, a small screwdriver a duster and a hoover did the trick. my computer sounds as good as new now without all that dust. it sounds 'healthieer' and not efficent. It also is heating up less, my comp has been on for just under 10mins now and i can feel no heat where the back of the fan is :).

    I suggest everyone with the same problem as me to open their PC case up and clean it properly. Either with a can of compressed air or like i did the cheap and cheerful way, paintbrush (thin paintbrush)

    the fan at the back is an item that needs to be unscrewed and cleaned with detail, make sure u remove every bit of dust. get a duster, rigorously shake it clean in the back garden to remove any of the existing crap on it,then 'dust' the inside of your pc in every way possible. . You wont regret it because your pc will sounds liek new.

    if you have a dell computer then you're stufed, because some of the new dell pc have heir compoinents 'glued' into the system making cleaning that much harder...

    but ya
    i#ll let you know how i got on with installing SP3 next time ;)
     
  9. Route44

    Route44 TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 11,966   +70

    Ah, yes, dust. Nature's natural "blanket" that is a PC's enemy. Canned air is a wonderful investment used periodically.

    By the way, let us know how SP3 works. Thanks.
     
  10. King_Uzi

    King_Uzi TS Rookie Topic Starter

    Hi guys, thanks again for your help. All my PC problems are now done and dusted. My computer is now up and running within 30second of the power button being on - no longer a *push to go on* do a poo poo, wait for a few mins longer then start browsing the internet*. not at all. In fact when i got my pc working again it was brand spanking new.. no software other than the standard windows media player and internet explorer 5.5 or something. lol.

    Not long after i cleaned my PC my whoole damn PC crashed on me.. like windows wouldn't even loan.. it blakc screened on me "insert boot disk" on a blakc screen b4 the windows page loaded..

    I got lucky. when this happened i left it for a while to see if it'd fix it self.. it never did. So i waited a bit longer.. still no 'self fix'. SO i called up a tecchy mate of mine who told me "you're stuffed; you need a boost disk. but to install it you need to go through the previous windows versions 98 and install from there". gutted i looked for these disks but couldn't really be bothered with 'the long thing', was thinking of just scrapping the lump.. Unitl i found a recovery disk..

    I swear one day i just randomly put in a recovery disk and it worked.. i was like *yay!* even if i did loose some data.. no biggie - most of the important music, porn and movies were on my D drive :). My only worry was that because the windows i had installed at the time was xp pro and not xp home, as originally came with the acer g600 i have, would it work..?. yes it did. within 5 minutes, 2 recovery disks later my pc was up and running within second of power on button :).

    ANd as for the cleaning.. i cleaned a hell of a lot of dust from inside my pc, but ultimately there was still a big problem with the message i used to get.. Since i've had a refresh of XP Home i've installed minimum software (Mozille reluctantly came on, *sigh, just as i was getting to like IE 7, kazaa lite codec pack, video lan, windows defender (don't know what for tbh, it's a spyware uti8lity isn't it), tune up 2008 NetXfer and Super Audio Co9nvertor. That is IT. nothing else needs to come onto my copmuter..

    and next time, guyds espesh, you visit a dodgy porn site and want to test out your computer security with some dodgy software load from the porn site.. don#t bother.. unless u got a recovery disk. lol

    SO in the end i've a brand new PC, am updating the drivers and stuff, and no need for windows sp3.. just a bunch of software i don't really need :)
     
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