PC having problems

By Xraii
Aug 22, 2009
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  1. i am new to this forums and am seeking help regarding my pc. my pc has been having problems when i first installed fall out 3. i then had to update drivers and i did but the game still wouldn't work. i kept un intaling and reinstalling driver to a point where my cumpter just crapt out and i had to reformat it. i did this and everything started to work out fine until my computer started to slow down more and more until everything was so slow that i thought i should restart. i did this and when i restarted, the computer did its checkups and the begging but at the end of them, it said i had a disk error and that i should press ctrl alt del. i restarted it and same thing. sometimes when i restarted it, it would go to the windows loading screen but wouldn't load or do anything. i then tried to reformat my computer again but when windows was done loading the files it needed to start the reformat i would get the blue-screen error...

    i am really confused and need some help here. i am not to sure wether its a virus or some hardware problem or software. tell me if you need any other information...

    power supply-850wat
    processor-intel core 2 duo e6850 3.ghz (1333mhz front slide bus)(4mb cache)
    motherboard-nvidia 680i core 2 quad (nforce 680i sli) ai revision
    memory- 2gb ddr2 corsair at 800mhz xms2
    videocard-nvidia geforce 8800gts 512mb
  2. raybay

    raybay TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 10,716   +6

    Symptoms of a bad hard drive. Slow down is #1 sign of a bad hard drive. Error messages are an indicatioin of a failing hard drive. Error messages are typical of defective hard drive.
    You told us about everything except the hard drive.
  3. Xraii

    Xraii Newcomer, in training Topic Starter

    done

    i have replaced the drive with a new one and i am still having problems with it...
  4. Xraii

    Xraii Newcomer, in training Topic Starter

    the hardrive i had before would be a 500 gb western digital (16mb) (7200rpm) (sata drive)
    i replaced it with the same drive except it had a faster access
  5. raybay

    raybay TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 10,716   +6

    Blue, or Green, or Silver and Black. The Blue ones have reduced power usage, but have not been as reliable as we would like.
  6. Xraii

    Xraii Newcomer, in training Topic Starter

    silver and black
  7. raybay

    raybay TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 10,716   +6

    Thast is the most rugged version... but too costly for competing with Seagate, Fujitsu, Samsung, Hitachi, and Maxtor...

    So it should work well and last a long time.
  8. Xraii

    Xraii Newcomer, in training Topic Starter

    anyone else have any suggestions?
  9. Bobbye

    Bobbye Helper on the Fringe Posts: 16,392   +35

    I'm not a hardware person, but I suggest you stop reformatting and find the problem!

    • [1]What operating system are you using? Windows XP? Vista? Was it an upgrade on an existing system?
      [2]Have you run the memtest to see if the RAM chips are good?
      [o]2GB for XP is okay. 2GB for Vista is the minimum.
      [o]Any computer has to be restarted occasionally to free up the resources. It sounds like you think restarting is something special.
      [3]What drivers did you have to update? Why?
      [4]System Requirements for Fall Out 3
      [o]OS: Windows XP or Vista
      [o]RAM: This game is a big memory eater. You can't have anything else running with it and that's if the RAM is good.
    • Minimum system Requirements: 1GB System RAM (XP) / 2GB System RAM (Vista)
    • Recommended System Requirements: 2 GB System RAM
      [o]Videocard:
    • Recommended: Direct X 9.0c compliant video card with 512MB RAM (NVIDIA 8800series, ATI 3800 series)

      [5]Explain:
      [6]Explain:
      [7]Explain:
      [8]Learn more:
      [o]Use the Event Viewer to find the Error that corresponds to the time you get 'disc error'. It will give additional information to help troubleshoot. I will give you directions when you tell me which operating system you're using.
      [9]Have you checked in the Device Manager to see if there arr asny errors? (yellow triangle w/ black !

    If you have a major hardware problem, reformatting/reinstalling isn't going to fix it. And chances are that something else will get messed up along the way.

    Are you having any other system problems?

    Have you checked for malware?
  10. Xraii

    Xraii Newcomer, in training Topic Starter

    * [1]What operating system are you using? Windows XP? Vista? Was it an upgrade on an existing system?-its xp 32bit, not upgrade
    [2]Have you run the memtest to see if the RAM chips are good?-how do i do this?
    [o]2GB for XP is okay. 2GB for Vista is the minimum.
    [o]Any computer has to be restarted occasionally to free up the resources. It sounds like you think restarting is something special.
    [3]What drivers did you have to update? Why?-i had to update graphics card drivers, updated them for fallout t3
    [4]System Requirements for Fall Out 3
    [o]OS: Windows XP or Vista
    [o]RAM: This game is a big memory eater. You can't have anything else running with it and that's if the RAM is good.
    * Minimum system Requirements: 1GB System RAM (XP) / 2GB System RAM (Vista)
    * Recommended System Requirements: 2 GB System RAM
    [o]Videocard:
    * Recommended: Direct X 9.0c compliant video card with 512MB RAM (NVIDIA 8800series, ATI 3800 series)

    [5]Explain:
    Quote:
    the computer did its checkups and the begging

    this is the checkups my computer does when it first starts up, i wasn't to sure what to call these so i called them checkups.

    [6]Explain:
    Quote:
    when i first installed fall out 3. i then had to update drivers

    when i started up fallout 3, steam told me i had to update drivers for it to run, i also tried not installing drivers to see if fallout would work but the game would get to the menu and when i clicked new game it crashed

    [7]Explain:
    Quote:
    i kept un intaling and reinstalling driver

    i tried doing system restores to uninstall the drivers because i didn't know how to uninstall them with a wizard or whatever its called and a friend told me that that might work. then i tried reinstalling to see if that might get fallout 3 to work.

    [8]Learn more:
    Quote:
    it said i had a disk error
    [o]Use the Event Viewer to find the Error that corresponds to the time you get 'disc error'. It will give additional information to help troubleshoot. I will give you directions when you tell me which operating system you're using.
    [9]Have you checked in the Device Manager to see if there arr asny errors? (yellow triangle w/ black !-i just checked and there are no yellow triangles with black


    If you have a major hardware problem, reformatting/reinstalling isn't going to fix it. And chances are that something else will get messed up along the way. :(

    Are you having any other system problems? not that i know of, can't really turn it on,IT TURNS ON SOMETIMES NOW FOR SOMEREASON

    Have you checked for malware? i have not
  11. Bobbye

    Bobbye Helper on the Fringe Posts: 16,392   +35

    Good job! Sorry, I meant to leave the link for the memtest:

    [2]How to Use Memtest- Tutorial:http://www.techspot.com/vb/topic62524.html

    [5]This refers to the POST Power On System Test) before Windows starts to load. Most of this is handled through the BIOS. (very non technical discussion!) The POST has 'beep codes' that can be used for diagnostics. For instance, 'you mentioned failure to initialize' in #7. Are you getting some kind of message for 'begging'? Beeps?

    Listen for Beep codes when you reboot the computer- that can help with the diagnostics:

    • * 1 short beep - Normal POST - system is OK
      * 2 short beeps - POST error - error code shown on screen
      * No beep - Power supply, system board problem, disconnected cpu, or disconnected speaker,
      * Continuous beep - Power supply, system board, or keyboard problem
      * Repeating short beeps - Power supply or system board problem or keyboard
      * 1 long, 1 short beep - System board problem
      * 1 long, 2 short beeps - Display adapter problem (MDA, CGA)
      * 1 long, 3 short beeps - Enhanced Graphics Adapter (EGA)
      * 3 long beeps - 3270 keyboard card

    [7]No errors in the Device Manager would indicate the driver updates you did were okay.

    [8]How to use the Event Viewer:
    Start> Run> type in eventvwr

    Do this on each the System and the Applications logs:

    • [1]. Click to open the log>
      [2]. Look for the Error>
      [3] .Right click on the Error> Properties>
      [4]. Click on Copy button, top right, below the down arrow >
      [5]. Paste here (Ctrl V)
      [6].NOTES
    • You can ignore Warnings and Information Events.
    • If you have a recurring Error with same ID#, same Source and same Description, only one copy is needed.
    • You don't need to include the lines of code in the box below the Description, if any.
    • Please do not copy the entire Event log.

    Errors are time coded. Check the computer clock for time of 'disc error' and any other time you get an error message.

    If the system is now freezing, then rebooting on it's own, check to see if any Error message displays at that time. (Event Viewer)

    I also notices that Steam recommends a 1GB hard drive. What is the capacity of the new hard drive?

    Use your antivirus program and two spyware/adware programs to scan the system for malware- updates each right before the scan. Let me know what the results are.

    Summary:
    1. Results of memtest
    2. Error Events?
    3. Beeps?
    4. Malware scans?[/list]

    NOTE: Do not fear the Wizards. The are friendly and there to help you.
     
  12. Xraii

    Xraii Newcomer, in training Topic Starter

    i am going out to night so i will do the memtest tommorrow when i have more time but i did use the event viewer.

    the applications had no errors but the system did have a couple.

    1)
    Event Type: Error
    Event Source: Cdrom
    Event Category: None
    Event ID: 7
    Date: 8/26/2009
    Time: 2:54:44 AM
    User: N/A
    Computer: LUCAS
    Description:
    The device, \Device\CdRom0, has a bad block.

    For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
    Data:
    0000: 03 00 68 00 01 00 b8 00 ..h...¸.
    0008: 00 00 00 00 07 00 04 c0 .......À
    0010: 00 01 00 00 9c 00 00 c0 ....œ..À
    0018: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
    0020: 00 c8 5a b2 00 00 00 00 .ÈZ²....
    0028: f0 16 2c 00 00 00 00 00 ð.,.....
    0030: ff ff ff ff 00 00 00 00 ÿÿÿÿ....
    0038: 40 00 00 c4 02 00 00 00 @..Ä....
    0040: 00 20 0a 12 48 02 00 00 . ..H...
    0048: 00 00 00 00 14 00 00 00 ........
    0050: 00 08 97 12 38 fb 3f 89 ..—.8û?‰
    0058: 00 00 00 00 48 0e e4 87 ....H.ä‡
    0060: 02 00 00 00 59 4b 16 00 ....YK..
    0068: 28 00 00 16 4b 59 00 00 (...KY..
    0070: 40 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 @.......
    0078: 70 00 03 00 00 00 00 0a p.......
    0080: 00 00 00 00 11 05 00 00 ........
    0088: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........

    2)
    Event Type: Error
    Event Source: nv
    Event Category: None
    Event ID: 14
    Date: 8/26/2009
    Time: 1:52:37 AM
    User: N/A
    Computer: LUCAS
    Description:
    Unknown error on CMDre 00000001 00000080 00000000 00000005 00000006
    Data:
    0000: 00 00 00 00 02 00 4e 00 ......N.
    0008: 00 00 00 00 0e 00 aa c0 ......ªÀ
    0010: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
    0018: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
    0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........

    3)
    Event Type: Error
    Event Source: Disk
    Event Category: None
    Event ID: 11
    Date: 8/24/2009
    Time: 3:45:44 PM
    User: N/A
    Computer: LUCAS
    Description:
    The driver detected a controller error on \Device\Harddisk0\D.

    For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
    Data:
    0000: 03 00 68 00 01 00 b6 00 ..h...¶.
    0008: 00 00 00 00 0b 00 04 c0 .......À
    0010: 03 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
    0018: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
    0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
    0028: 5e 69 05 00 00 00 00 00 ^i......
    0030: ff ff ff ff 07 00 00 00 ÿÿÿÿ....
    0038: 40 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 @.......
    0040: 00 20 0a 12 40 03 20 40 . ..@. @
    0048: 00 00 00 00 0a 00 00 00 ........
    0050: 00 00 00 00 c8 08 34 88 ....È.4ˆ
    0058: 00 00 00 00 f0 14 29 88 ....ð.)ˆ
    0060: 00 00 00 00 c7 0a 22 08 ....Ç.".
    0068: 28 00 08 22 0a c7 00 00 (..".Ç..
    0070: 80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 €.......
    0078: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
    0080: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
    0088: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........

    4)
    Event Type: Error
    Event Source: nv
    Event Category: None
    Event ID: 14
    Date: 8/23/2009
    Time: 8:05:50 PM
    User: N/A
    Computer: LUCAS
    Description:
    Unknown error on CMDre 00000001 00000080 00000000 00000005 00000006
    Data:
    0000: 00 00 00 00 02 00 4e 00 ......N.
    0008: 00 00 00 00 0e 00 aa c0 ......ªÀ
    0010: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
    0018: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
    0020: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........

    5)
    Event Type: Error
    Event Source: Windows Update Agent
    Event Category: Installation
    Event ID: 20
    Date: 8/23/2009
    Time: 6:52:25 PM
    User: N/A
    Computer: LUCAS
    Description:
    Installation Failure: Windows failed to install the following update with error 0x80070643: Internet Explorer 8 for Windows XP.

    For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
    Data:
    0000: 57 69 6e 33 32 48 52 65 Win32HRe
    0008: 73 75 6c 74 3d 30 78 38 sult=0x8
    0010: 30 30 37 30 36 34 33 20 0070643
    0018: 55 70 64 61 74 65 49 44 UpdateID
    0020: 3d 7b 46 45 37 36 42 43 ={FE76BC
    0028: 34 39 2d 31 42 41 43 2d 49-1BAC-
    0030: 34 37 30 41 2d 38 30 30 470A-800
    0038: 37 2d 43 36 44 38 37 32 7-C6D872
    0040: 30 37 45 30 42 45 7d 20 07E0BE}
    0048: 52 65 76 69 73 69 6f 6e Revision
    0050: 4e 75 6d 62 65 72 3d 31 Number=1
    0058: 30 33 20 00 03 .

    6)
    Event Type: Error
    Event Source: DCOM
    Event Category: None
    Event ID: 10016
    Date: 8/21/2009
    Time: 4:56:49 PM
    User: NT AUTHORITY\LOCAL SERVICE
    Computer: LUCAS
    Description:
    The machine-default permission settings do not grant Local Activation permission for the COM Server application with CLSID
    {BC866CF2-5486-41F7-B46B-9AA49CF3EBB1}
    to the user NT AUTHORITY\LOCAL SERVICE SID (S-1-5-19). This security permission can be modified using the Component Services administrative tool.

    For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.

    7)
    Event Type: Error
    Event Source: Dhcp
    Event Category: None
    Event ID: 1001
    Date: 8/21/2009
    Time: 4:29:24 PM
    User: N/A
    Computer: LUCAS
    Description:
    Your computer was not assigned an address from the network (by the DHCP Server) for the Network Card with network address 00044B0A121C. The following error occurred:
    The operation was canceled by the user. . Your computer will continue to try and obtain an address on its own from the network address (DHCP) server.

    For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
    Data:
    0000: c7 04 00 00 Ç...



    Don't know what they mean but the're so many :(
  13. Bobbye

    Bobbye Helper on the Fringe Posts: 16,392   +35

    I'll start you off with these:

    1)Event Type: Error, Event Source: DCOM, Event ID: 10016, Desc: The machine-default permission settings do not grant Local Activation permission for the COM Server application with CLSID {BC866CF2-5486-41F7-B46B-9AA49CF3EBB1}

    CLSID {BC866CF2-5486-41F7-B46B-9AA49CF3EBB1} is also related to the NVIDIA
    Firewall. NVIDIA Firewall is a "native" hardware-optimized solution. It is an integrated part of the NVIDIA nForce MCP

    Uninstalling the nVidia Network Access Manager (NAM) might resolve the issue.
    It appears that the NAM has been known to have issues with the server browser for quite a while. Complaints have come because it installs "hidden firewalls"

    There is an override, but most have solved this by uninstalling the NAM. See the following for information:
    http://networking.nitecruzr.net/2006/02/hidden-personal-firewall-nvidia-nforce.html
    ------------------------------------------------------
    2)Event Type: Error, Event Source: nv, Event ID: 14
    Desc.:Unknown error on CMDr

    Again, related to the hidden firewall which is a firmware-based firewall in the nVidia chipset that is installed directly on the PC's motherboard.

    A lot of users are having problems with this because:
    1. It is a hidden object
    2. It's causing multiple errors

    Please read: http://www.broadbandreports.com/forum/remark,13307179
    http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=2138&st=0
    ------------------------------------------------------------------
    3) Event Type: Error, Event Source: Cdrom, Event ID: 7, Description: The device, \Device\CdRom0, has a bad block.
    Causes:
    CD Drive may be dirty or damaged
    CD might be damaged
    Microsoft suggests:
    Do one or all of the following:
    * Retry the operation.
    * Clean the physical hard drive.
    * Use newer media.
    --------------------------------------------
    4)Event Type: Error, Event Source: Disk, Event ID: 11, Description: The driver detected a controller error on \Device\Harddisk0\D.

    Multiple causes: See http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=11&eventno=616&source=Disk&phase=1
    From Microsoft:
    Explanation: This problem is typically caused by a failing cable that connects the drive to the computer.
    User Action: Replace the cable.

    BTW, when you paste the error in, you don't need to include the lines of code below the Description.
  14. Xraii

    Xraii Newcomer, in training Topic Starter

    sorry i haven't posted here for awhile but i have been busy with school and things and haven't really had time. but my computer seems to be working fine for some reason that i can't explain... but i really appreciate the help and if i have anymore problems will come back to this forum ^^ i hope i won't have to though for computer problems :p
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