PC shipments dropped 6.9 percent last quarter as market suffered its worst year ever

Point well taken, let me re-phase; anyone who would not buy a PC just because is has W8 or buy a new PC today with W7 should have their head examined.
Why should I have my head examined because I choose to use Windows 7. I choose Windows 7 because of two features that are not available in Windows 8. You should have your head examined, for thinking I need my head examined over such a ridiculous claim.

Toe features that were replaced by 20+... smart!
 
Toe features that were replaced by 20+... smart!
Two features that are more important to me. One of which is a feature I was looking for when I left Windows XP. If I was wanting it so badly when I left Windows XP, why would I be so eager to give it up in Windows 8? Say what you will, I have my reasons, that doesn't mean I need my head examined. And this is not to mention I don't want to give MS any money, which in turn would lead them to believe I am supporting that desktop abomination called the Start Screen. If you want to use Windows 8 fine, but shut up about my purchase decision.
 
Are you serious. You folks need to get out more often. You haven't heard that PC are competing with tables (which quite few have W8 on them). Oh, btw, if you're smart, W8 works exactly like W7 with several efficiency enhancements. It then has all the bells and whistles of modern apps if you care to use them. IMO - Anyone who stays with W7 should have their heads examine!
My daughters laptop has W7. I cannot see any logical reason to install W8 on it. Why not? Well the cost of buying W8, time spent reinstalling all the programs and the distinct possibility that the W8 drivers will not work with the laptop. Frankly I would need to have my head examined!

Point well taken, let me re-phase; anyone who would not buy a PC just because is has W8 or buy a new PC today with W7 should have their head examined.
So my IT department should have their heads examined as they only buy laptops with W7 installed? I am sure they see things differently.

You missed the point of the article - PC sales. The W8 crybabies were claiming it was sorely because of W8. If you buy a PC with W7 it counts towards total "PC" sales. I'm sure there are good reasons for businesses to stay with W7 as it's been tested and secured, but for the average home user to keep crying about W8 and how it's the sole reason for low PC sales just shows people's intelligences (or lack of). Reason for my rant...
I agree that W8 is not the sole reason for low PC sales but it clearly has contributed to lower sales. Uptake of W8 has not increased significantly with the introduction of W8.1. If you visit the IT section of any decent department store you can see that PC are still prominant but tablets are catching up fast. Go into a phone shop and there are no PCs for sale but plenty of tablets. I am always surprised that they are having difficulty selling laptops with very good specs for the same price as a tablet with only 64Gb of memory.
 
Oh, the mention of XP in your post sums it up! You're one of those who hung on to XP bashing Vista/W7 until you realized you were wrong and now you think W7 is the greatest thing since sliced bread.
Wrong!

http://www.w7forums.com/threads/a-new-moderator.2366/

Look at the date. It was a few days before Windows 7 was released to public. Are there any more misjudgments of character you want to share?

I'm not making any accusations against why you want Windows 8, please stop making them for why I don't. I give my reasoning why I don't want Windows 8. If you stick to giving your reasoning as to why you want Windows 8, there will be no conflict between us. But that is not what you did. You intentionally attacked those who have chosen to stay with Windows 7, saying they need to have their head checked. You are the one trolling for a negative response, which lead me to defend myself and everyone else you generalized against. And then you are trying to act all innocent, by saying you are not allowed to comment positively about Windows 8. I don't care if you comment positively about Windows 8. I will however speak up, if you needlessly insult my decision not to move forward.
 
Oh, the mention of XP in your post sums it up! You're one of those who hung on to XP bashing Vista/W7 until you realized you were wrong and now you think W7 is the greatest thing since sliced bread.
Wrong!

http://www.w7forums.com/threads/a-new-moderator.2366/

Look at the date. It was a few days before Windows 7 was released to public. Are there any more misjudgments of character you want to share?

I'm not making any accusations against why you want Windows 8, please stop making them for why I don't. I give my reasoning why I don't want Windows 8. If you stick to giving your reasoning as to why you want Windows 8, there will be no conflict between us. But that is not what you did. You intentionally attacked those who have chosen to stay with Windows 7, saying they need to have their head checked. You are the one trolling for a negative response, which lead me to defend myself and everyone else you generalized against. And then you are trying to act all innocent, by saying you are not allowed to comment positively about Windows 8. I don't care if you comment positively about Windows 8. I will however speak up, if you needlessly insult my decision not to move forward.

Okay, I'll take back and rephrase the whole head thing... Anyone who thinks for one moment that W8 has absolutely anything to do with declining PC sales should have their heads examined? How's that? Better?
 
Thats better. Even though I will not buy a PC or device with Windows 8, I can't say the same for anyone else. As for the decline in sales, that probably has more to do with hardware than software. But then either way, I'd only be speculating.
 
PC Shipments are not longer the de facto health indicator of the PC market. Not only do they poorly count PC sales but they also refuse to reveal their data correlation and collection methods. This announcement is also on the heels of what has been an excellent year for the PC industry. PC Components were the 3rd largest grossing items this holiday season, right below game consoles. This is just components to individuals too, not including OEM systems.
 
Okay, I'll take back and rephrase the whole head thing... Anyone who thinks for one moment that W8 has absolutely anything to do with declining PC sales should have their heads examined? How's that? Better?
W8 has not generated much positive reviews. On the whole it has received quite a bit of negative feedback. You clearly feel that is unjustified but the general perception is that W8 is poor. To claim that W8 has not affected sales of PCs in any way seems to be wishful thinking.

By the way I spoken to a number of people who have used W8. Not one of them has expressed the opinion that W8 is better than W7.
 
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win8 just lacks the "wow" factor. performance wise, I cant say. coz I used win8 for about maybe 30 mins?
 
Okay, I'll take back and rephrase the whole head thing... Anyone who thinks for one moment that W8 has absolutely anything to do with declining PC sales should have their heads examined? How's that? Better?
W8 has not generated much positive reviews. On the whole it has received quite a bit of negative feedback. You clearly feel that is unjustified but the general perception is that W8 is poor. To claim that W8 has not affected sales of PCs in any way seems to be wishful thinking.

By the way I spoken to a number of people who have used W8. Not one of them has expressed the opinion that W8 is better than W7.

W8 has the ability to work, look and feel exactly like W7 except more efficiently. I will admit, there are many features in W8 that are not as clear-cut to the average user so they don't see the point. I've demonstrated W8, both non-touch desktop and Surface tablet, to several people that didn't care for the OS and everyone walked away saying "wow, I didn't know it could do that". Everyone was eager to learn more. Once you understand the different gestures (mouse or touch) it's a breeze. I use to use it strictly on a non-touch desktop. I've lately been using it on a table. All I can say is I feel sorry for everyone who got an Android or iPad table for Christmas.
 
If this drop continues, we could afford to lose some system manufacturers and get better products from the ones that remain. The small jumps gen over gen in the CPU space aren't helping either. In fact, CPU sales are probably progressing the least as well as operating systems (ie: Windows 8 acceptance).

PC sales will continue to drop as long as Chromebooks, wearables, Smart TV's, tablets and phones etc are around. Not everyone is going to want/need to sit at a computer every time they do something online. It was bound to happen at some point. I'm not surprised at the drop in sales at all.
 
Okay, I'll take back and rephrase the whole head thing... Anyone who thinks for one moment that W8 has absolutely anything to do with declining PC sales should have their heads examined? How's that? Better?
W8 has not generated much positive reviews. On the whole it has received quite a bit of negative feedback. You clearly feel that is unjustified but the general perception is that W8 is poor. To claim that W8 has not affected sales of PCs in any way seems to be wishful thinking.

By the way I spoken to a number of people who have used W8. Not one of them has expressed the opinion that W8 is better than W7.

W8 has the ability to work, look and feel exactly like W7 except more efficiently. I will admit, there are many features in W8 that are not as clear-cut to the average user so they don't see the point. I've demonstrated W8, both non-touch desktop and Surface tablet, to several people that didn't care for the OS and everyone walked away saying "wow, I didn't know it could do that". Everyone was eager to learn more. Once you understand the different gestures (mouse or touch) it's a breeze. I use to use it strictly on a non-touch desktop. I've lately been using it on a table. All I can say is I feel sorry for everyone who got an Android or iPad table for Christmas.
You have inadvertently given us the reason why the reception of W8 has been poor. The GUI is radically different to previous versions and a classic option was not given as an easy option. I don't see any issue of adding new features but taking away classic features was a mistake.
 
Okay, I'll take back and rephrase the whole head thing... Anyone who thinks for one moment that W8 has absolutely anything to do with declining PC sales should have their heads examined? How's that? Better?
W8 has not generated much positive reviews. On the whole it has received quite a bit of negative feedback. You clearly feel that is unjustified but the general perception is that W8 is poor. To claim that W8 has not affected sales of PCs in any way seems to be wishful thinking.

By the way I spoken to a number of people who have used W8. Not one of them has expressed the opinion that W8 is better than W7.

W8 has the ability to work, look and feel exactly like W7 except more efficiently. I will admit, there are many features in W8 that are not as clear-cut to the average user so they don't see the point. I've demonstrated W8, both non-touch desktop and Surface tablet, to several people that didn't care for the OS and everyone walked away saying "wow, I didn't know it could do that". Everyone was eager to learn more. Once you understand the different gestures (mouse or touch) it's a breeze. I use to use it strictly on a non-touch desktop. I've lately been using it on a table. All I can say is I feel sorry for everyone who got an Android or iPad table for Christmas.
You have inadvertently given us the reason why the reception of W8 has been poor. The GUI is radically different to previous versions and a classic option was not given as an easy option. I don't see any issue of adding new features but taking away classic features was a mistake.

You are absolutely correct. It's a known fact that most people are resistant to change, even if it's for the better.
 
I agree with many of the posters, I have been building my own pc's for years now. I bought my last PC in 2007 since then I've been building my own, I've built four and been doing upgrades since. My amount I spend hasn't gone down it's just shifted. I've also helped a couple friends by the parts they want and build it with them. I also know a couple part stores that if you buy all the parts from them they will build it for you. So I doubt PC's in the home are in decline just the prepackaged ones are.
 
"You are absolutely correct. It's a known fact that most people are resistant to change, even if it's for the better"

It's also known that all change is not always for the better. Best to keep what is good of the old and integrate the new. In this Win8/8.1 gets a F, and I installed and used it from the day it was released until about 2 weeks ago. Having used both extensively I would definitely choose Windows 7. If you cannot grasp that this is the opinion of many......too bad for you! Keep inventing reasons why your move to Windows 8 makes the grass greener and the sunshine brighter and that anyone who disagrees with you is a fool.
 
I think Windows 9 will make the grass greener and the sunshine brighter. I am crossing my finger, but not holding my breath. Hahaha!
 
"You are absolutely correct. It's a known fact that most people are resistant to change, even if it's for the better"

It's also known that all change is not always for the better. Best to keep what is good of the old and integrate the new. In this Win8/8.1 gets a F, and I installed and used it from the day it was released until about 2 weeks ago. Having used both extensively I would definitely choose Windows 7. If you cannot grasp that this is the opinion of many......too bad for you! Keep inventing reasons why your move to Windows 8 makes the grass greener and the sunshine brighter and that anyone who disagrees with you is a fool.

It's the opinion of only those who visit sites like these which is the minority, a bunch of technology nerds - self included. It's a fact that negative views get posted where positive ones (excluding mine) get posted. There are much more positive than you think.
 
Target woes, they had ACER/GATEWAY laptop 15.6-inch, Ultra Bright, HDMI Port, 1 USB 3.0 and 2 USB 2.0. 750GB SATAII, 4GB with upgrade to 8GB, No-CD/DVD burner option. AMD Dual core was E series (eek) 1.4GHz. came with Windows 8 on it. Ouch for $229.99. Would be a good deal if they installed a burner and faster CPU. PC sales down because of why? Not 8 but the marketing and price structure is bad for PC.
 
"You are absolutely correct. It's a known fact that most people are resistant to change, even if it's for the better"

It's also known that all change is not always for the better. Best to keep what is good of the old and integrate the new. In this Win8/8.1 gets a F, and I installed and used it from the day it was released until about 2 weeks ago. Having used both extensively I would definitely choose Windows 7. If you cannot grasp that this is the opinion of many......too bad for you! Keep inventing reasons why your move to Windows 8 makes the grass greener and the sunshine brighter and that anyone who disagrees with you is a fool.

Okay, I will. Fortunately I don't have to invent anything, I was just smart enough to figure it out. Good for me, the sun is shining and life is good!
 
Okay, I will. Fortunately I don't have to invent anything, I was just smart enough to figure it out. Good for me, the sun is shining and life is good!
Right on man! It is your money and your computer so if you really like it, more power to you. Enjoy :)
 
Too many people put it down to Windows 8, you can still buy PCs with Windows 7 so how does that work?

Windows 8 is aimed at tablets and touch screen PCs which microsoft obviously see where PCs are heading.

The main factor in the decline is obviously the rise of tablets, many people dont want to build PCs, many dont even want to own them, thats why tablets are so popular.
 
People will still use desktops if you want the power. Laptop if you want to carry the power around with you. Netbook smaller but today you can get touch screen one multi-core. Tablet smaller easy to deal with on the run or traveling. When new tech of translucent tablets come out then all different playing field. Windows 7 everything works under that OS from hardware to etc.. Windows 8 still has some glitches and dents. Windows 9 lets hope MS has learned from Windows 8 woes.
 
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