Phantasm66 peer to peer problem

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https://www.techspot.com/vb/showthread.php?threadid=2687


Phantasm66, i think you may have already answered some of my problem...................ref the above thread?????? i didn't know i needed 2 adapters in server!



I am attenpting to connect peer to peer..........here's the problem!

I have two boxes both have same mobo and in one i have an ethernet adapter and K7s5a which pings ok, in the other is the K7S5A Lan, it is in this box i am getting a "ghost" adapter in ipconfig in msdos sometimes with an ip address sometimes with just 00 00 00.

I think this is the problem as in msdos ipconfig i show two adapters one "0" and one as "1" which is the correct address.
This is happening while i am connected to the www by broadband?

I want to get rid of the ghost adapter hoping this will cure things so i can at least ping each box correctly,.............any ideas?

I have re-installed win98se and re-installed adapters and drivers.
I have checked cable etc, that seems fine.


Do i put the same ip address in both adapters on my server.............................is there a link to a site that would tell me.

Many thanks
 
Hi,

Sorry, I want to help you, but I don't have a clue what it is that you are trying to do.... My post in the thread you referenced was on sharing a cable modem connection on a home LAN.... is that what you are trying to do?
If you clarify that then I can help you.
 
Hi, thanks but firstly see my first post about the problem.......

I basically can't get a ping from one pc to another, i will eventually have internet sharing and i thought from your other thread i had to have 2 nics in the main pc, what i am getting is a t second adapter show up when i do ipconfig in msdos?
 
OK I am still not too clear what you are talking about, but I thought that I gave the answer here:

Originally posted by Phantasm66
ALL of the technology that you will need to share an internet connection of this type is (software wise) built into Windows already and (hardware wise) consists of some cheap network cards and a cheap length of cable.

(assuming windows 2000 / xp is which best for the job) :-

Buy 3 network cards, or ensure that you have 3 available (cost nothing.)

Buy a cheap cross-over cat 5 UTP cable (cost nothing.) Make sure that its a cross-over cable and not a straight through cable which will not work (unless you have more than 1 cable and a hub, which would be necessary for more than 2 machines on your network.)

Fit 2 network cards in one machine (the server) and the third card in the other machine (the client.)

connect one network card in server to your cable modem. ensure that you can connect to the internet.

connect the 2nd NIC in the server via the cross-over cable to the client machine's NIC.

Now right click "My Network Places" to go into properties for network connections, see the icon for your NIC which is connected to the cable modem. Right click it and rename it "Cable Connection" Right click the other icon and rename is "Local LAN" Now right click Cable Connection icon and go into properties and enable sharing (in XP, select advanced and then tick "allow other network users to connect to the internet using this network connection" or something like that.

You now have a basic form of Network address translation running (called Internet connection sharing) running on the server machine.

If you want to share the connection with more than just this client machine (ie. have more than 2 machines on your home network which you indicated that you would with the X-Box) then you will need straight through cables instead of a crossover and you will need a small hub. A little 5 port one is fine. Don't use the uplink port.

(I think its fairly easy to get this kind of small, internet connection sharing network up and running. You do not need to buy any expensive specialised equipment like a cable router, but in this case the server machine WILL have to be up and running to share the connection with other machines, of course. If you want to just turn whatever machine on and have the others off, then you will need the router.)

This is assuming that you use a network card to connect to your cable modem. If you use USB then you only need 2 network cards (one in each machine not two in both....)

I don't know how to explain things any more clearly than I have in the post.
 
the ability for the two cards on your local LAN (one of which is on one of the cross over cable in the server and the other is in the client machine on the other end of the cable) to ping each other happens because when you enable internet connection sharing these two cards get their tcp/ip details from an internal DHCP server on your server machine, which puts them both into the same subnet.

if all you have done is just put a card in each machine and then connected the cable, you probably won't be able to ping, because each machine will have its address allocated by its own internet dhcp, which will probably put them both on different subnets.

without internet connection sharing running, you would have to run a dhcp service that's correctly configured, or you would have to assign static addresses to the two cards, one with IP address 192.168.0.1 and one with 192.168.0.2, both with subnet mask of 255.255.255.0.

I think it would be better for you to explain EXACTLY what you are trying to do, EXACTLY what stage you are at and EXACTLY what the problem is. Help us to help you.
 
Yep, i havn't made it too clear so far, i'll attempt again to give you a clear picture.....

I have 2 pc's
Master with a lan on K7s5a mobo 3.1
Client with pci/adapter installed also with K7s5a mobo3.1(no lan)
cap5e crossover cable installed
Master ip 192.168.10.10 s/net 255.255.255.0
Client ip 192.168.10.11 s/net 255.255.255.0

I have done a loop ping 127.0.0.1 on both machines .....ok

when i ping client from master i get ....transmit failed error code 10050.

when i ping master from client i get ...........request timed out.

ipconfig....
when on master the ipconfig shows two adapters............. adapter 0. with an ip addresss or sometimes 00.00.00.00
also adapter 1. ip address 192.168.10.10 s/net 255.255.255.0


when on client the ipconfig shows adapter 0. ip address 192.168.10.11 s/net 255.255.255.0

I have checked device manager and adapters ok.
in both machines n/neighbour only shows files on it's own pc and not the other.
I have not touched gateway, wins or dns, config and i am using a bt broadband usb connection to internet.

i have checked pc/names and workgroups are the same.

To check cat cable ok i have disconnected and used a friends hub to connect with correct cables and i have green lights to go on hub.

Hope this helps.....many thanks. :)
 
that's better :)

Now, can you first of all post the results of the following:

go on to master, run this command:

ipconfig /all > ipconfig.txt
notepad ipconfig.txt

this will open notepad, copy and paste data from it here.

Now, can each machine ping its OWN IP?

Can master ping 192.168.0.10?
Can client ping 192.168.0.11?

Have you the right type of cable?

crossover cable to directly connect two machines with no hub.

OR

two sets of straight-through cables, one from master to hub, one from client to hub.

to directly connect from machine to machine WITH NO HUB you need a different type of cable from the usual one (i.e. a cross over cable.)
 
Phantasm66


Windows 98 IP Configuration



Host Name . . . . . . . . . : ATHLON

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . : 213.120.62.98

213.120.62.99

Node Type . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast

NetBIOS Scope ID. . . . . . :

IP Routing Enabled. . . . . : No

WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . : No

NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS : No



0 Ethernet adapter :



Description . . . . . . . . : PPP Adapter.

Physical Address. . . . . . : 44-45-53-54-00-00

DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes

IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 217.35.16.233

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . : 217.35.16.233

DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255

Primary WINS Server . . . . :

Secondary WINS Server . . . :

Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : 01 01 80 0:00:00

Lease Expires . . . . . . . : 01 01 80 0:00:00



1 Ethernet adapter :



Description . . . . . . . . : Realtek 8139-series PCI NIC

Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-E0-4C-6C-F7-32

DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.10.10

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . :

Primary WINS Server . . . . :

Secondary WINS Server . . . :

Lease Obtained. . . . . . . :

Lease Expires . . . . . . . :


pinging itself same as previous post.......error code and timeout.
i installed what i had ordered which was cat5e crossover cable, to check weather the crossover cable was working i have tested connection with friends hub with straight cats.....and have green lights.
 
when you ping YOURSELF you get an error and a timeout?

on which machine, master or client?

In any case, that machine has a problem with its network card drivers or tcp/ip stack.

on machine with problem:

remove NIC card from device manager, when offered to reboot don't.

go into network settings, remove tcp/ip

reboot

reinstall network card drivers (try to get later ones if possible)

reboot

re-add tcp/ip (requires windows 98 cd)

reboot


ALSO

for the each adapter that's part of your local LAN (i.e. there's one in the master and one in the client), ensure that both are on the same subnet mask (i.e. its 255.255.255.0 for both) and that the IP's only difference on each is the fourth octet (i.e. the 192.168.0 bit is the same, only the last section after third dot is different)
 
Phantasm66.........my correction when master pings itself i get error code 10050

when client pings itself...successfull ping.
 
4777 » PING: transmit failed, error code 10050 or code 65?

When you issue a PING command, you may receive either of the following:

PING: transmit failed, error code 10050

PING: Transmit failed, error code 65.
This failure is generally the result of having a firewall program blocking the PING or blocking ICMP Echo and/or Echo Reply packets.
Check your program documentation for how to allow the PING command or to allow ICMP Echo and/or Echo Reply packets.

source: http://www.jsiinc.com/SUBJ/tip4700/rh4777.htm


see also:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q298100

If you have zone alarm, try turning security setting to medium for internet and low for internet LAN. ensure your internal LAN adapter is marked as trusted.
 
Phantasm66.....i have changed driver to match both nics now ( as one was older than the other)

Tweaked Zonealarm and now the master pings itself successfully.

So they are now both pinging themselves...........................but i get the timed out response when i try to ping each other machine?
 
did you read the part of my post about the type of cable you are using? are you using a cross-over cable directly between the two NICs, or are you using one straight through from each NIC to a hub?
 
Phantasm66...........................cracked it, sharing files alls ok, double checked and found i had deleted adapter in client by mistake, so changing drivers and tweaking zonealarm did it.

Thanks to you......................

Now internet sharing............i know it's in win98, do i just go through wizard on master to config i/sharing but what about the copied floppy.............not sure what to do with client.


I am using usb bt broadband can you point me in the right direction. :grinthumb
 
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