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Problem connecting USB disk

By PSLog
Aug 8, 2003
  1. I am trying to connect a new USB external hard drive to my Win XP system.
    I have installed the driver.
    When I plug it in I get "No drives detected"
    Any ideas?
    Mark
     
  2. poertner_1274

    poertner_1274 secroF laicepS topShceT Posts: 4,172

    I am not sure if it is like any printer or scanner where you have to installin in a series of steps. If the HD is like this, did you do it properly? Also have you gone to add/remove hardware in the control panel?
     
  3. Nodsu

    Nodsu TS Rookie Posts: 5,837   +6

    I'm pretty sure you don't have to manually install any drivers for USB storage in XP..
     
  4. Phantasm66

    Phantasm66 TS Rookie Posts: 5,734   +7

    You might have to for a USB 2.0/2.1 controller, or USB 2.0/2.1 device, though.
     
  5. PSLog

    PSLog TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 21

    Thanks for the responses so far.
    The USB disk came with a CD from which I ran an EXE to install a USB2.0 driver.

    If I open up XP Device Manager with the Disk unplugged ih have:
    4 x Intel 8280 1EB USB Universal host controllers
    1 x Standard enhanced PCI to USB controller
    5 x USB root hubs

    When I turn on and then connect the USB disk drive then a
    USB Mass storeage device is added.

    I can't figure out how to get access to it though.
     
  6. Nodsu

    Nodsu TS Rookie Posts: 5,837   +6

    Can you see the device in Disk Manager?
    Have you defined any network drives?
     
  7. Rick

    Rick TechSpot Staff Posts: 4,573   +65

    The drive probably needs to be partitioned.
     
  8. PSLog

    PSLog TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 21

    In Device manager there IS an entry under Disk Drives (apart from the hard drives) that goes:
    IC25N040 ATCS04-0 USB Device.
    I'm not sure, but I had assumed that was a Flash disk that I had connecetd a few days ago - no longer connected.

    Yes I have mapped some network drives. Sorry, I don't understand the significance of the question.

    To Rick
    If I need to partition the drive, how do I go about this - it is not explained in the manual.

    TIA
     
  9. PSLog

    PSLog TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 21

    But wait!

    IC25N040 ATCS04-0 USB Device > Properties > Populate gives
    Disk: Disk 1
    Type: Unknown
    Status: Not initialised {Is THIS the problem??}
    Partition Style: Not applicable
    Capacity: 38147 MB
    Reserved Space: 0 MB
    Volumes/Capacity window is empty

    The drive still does not show up in My Computer
     
  10. Mictlantecuhtli

    Mictlantecuhtli TS Evangelist Posts: 4,345   +11

    Yes, that's the problem, you need to partition it like Rick said. You can probably do it from Administrative Tools - Disk Management.
     
  11. PSLog

    PSLog TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 21

    Thanks everyone: got it going.
    This board is brilliant.
    Mark
     
  12. Rick

    Rick TechSpot Staff Posts: 4,573   +65

    Glad to help you out. My answers are usually more in depth than that, but I've been slacking off lately. My apologies! :)

    This is a VERY common problem with USB disk drives. This is especially bad for Windows 98 and Me users because these operating systems ignore unpartitioned disks and DOS does not support USB drives (at least not practically speaking).
     
  13. PSLog

    PSLog TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 21

    Rick
    There were several problems:
    1. This is my first week with a new computer
    2. This is my first week with XP
    3. This is my first week with USB
    4. This is my first week with portable hard drive
    5. The front panel USB ports turn out to be not working (machine has now been packed up and returned to supplier)
    6. Partitioning hard drive in XP is not exactly intuitive (right click on coloured bar beside disk label!)
    Appreciate your help so don't aplogise:)
    Mark
     
  14. mickdonedee

    mickdonedee TS Rookie

    I have bumped this thread because the question is almost identical to mine. I have removed a 13 GB hardisk containing all my important files and data from an old notebook and placed it in a USB 2.0 IDE adaptor to transfer the data across to the new notebook. Various problems with the old notebook prevent me from doing it any other way. The new notebook has windows xp and the device manager says the device is okay but there is no icon in My Computer. I followed the links below to Disk Management:

    Start>ControlPanel>Administrative Tools>Computer Management>Disk Management>

    It saya the USB external drive is not initialised and has no allocation. Perhaps it needs to be partitioned but how do I do that without erasing the data and files contained on the external hardisk?
     
  15. SNGX1275

    SNGX1275 TS Forces Special Posts: 10,704   +397

    Did your usb enclosure come with any special drivers? Can you plug it into another system to see if it is recognised?
    Definately do not create or delete any partitions on that disk, it will only make trying to get the data off it more difficult.
     
  16. mickdonedee

    mickdonedee TS Rookie

    The USB adaptor came with drivers for Win 98 only as the installation notes say that software installation is not required for Win ME/2000/XP
    I took my Toshiba notebook and USB adaptor to a PC outlet with a service department and they had a look at it. For a time they were puzzled why it didn't work. Then the guy suggested testing it on one of their PCs and it worked! It was discovered that the cable I was using was a split cable with two plugs and I had both plugs inserted into the 2 USB ports on my notebook. When I removed one plug the external hard-drive was recognized and I could see the files and folders.

    Why had I put both plugs in the USB ports? The installation notes said, "Some computer's USB ports (like Toshiba and Compaq's notebook) have not enough power to supply the hard disk. In this case you can use the split USB head to get more electronic power from another port."

    My mistake was not trying it with one plug first. Sorry for the late reply but all is well now and thankyou for your suggestions. Your suggestion about trying it on another system led to the problem being discovered.
     
  17. kingarthur

    kingarthur TS Rookie

    What are the steps for making partition to the USB hard drive?

    Excuseme can you help me about how Can I partition the USB hard disk?

    KingArthur
     
  18. fulcrum29

    fulcrum29 TS Rookie

    hi guyz......I am new here. I also have the same problem. I took a Segate 40Gb 2.5'' Hard Drive and put it in a USB Enclosure. Now, it works on all other systems, except my own. I went to Device manager and found the disk under disk drives and the usb mass storage device under USB controllers. But my device manager is not detecting it at all. There is obviously no icon in My Computer. In device manager, i went into the device properties of the hard drive. There i went to the policies tab and optimised for disk performance (which means that the windows cache will be enabled and that i will have to use the safely remove hardware icon). However, in the Volumes tab i tried to populate the drive (expose the drive partitions) but i get this :-

    Volume information for this disk cannot be found. This may happen if the disk is a 1394 or a USB device on a Windows 2000 Machine

    I am totally Stumped by that one. I run Windows Xp over here. and it works on everybody else`s system.

    Guys Please help!!!!!!:)
     
  19. fulcrum29

    fulcrum29 TS Rookie

    NTFS vs FAT32 - No Problems Right.....



    By the way, my usb hard drive has been partitioned to NTFS whereas all my internal drives are FAT32. I dont think that this should be a problem (especialy with xp). But just wasnted u to know that thats all.
     
  20. fulcrum29

    fulcrum29 TS Rookie

    still waiting
     
  21. jobeard

    jobeard TS Ambassador Posts: 9,311   +617

    USB is typically formatted as FAT32, which allows the media to be attached
    to ANY hardware or OS supporting USB. Your 40gb will do nicely with FAT32.
    As there seems to be a rash of USB connectivity issues, I would caution you
    to elect the filesystem with the most connectivity--FAT32.
     
  22. fulcrum29

    fulcrum29 TS Rookie


    But the Segate 40 Gb laptop hard drive that i used, did not give me the FAT32 option when i partitioned and formatted it. Is there any way that i can get FAT 32 to work.
     
  23. jobeard

    jobeard TS Ambassador Posts: 9,311   +617

    find a friend with Win/98se or any Linux;
    both will have the option of FAT32. Xp seems to have fits trying to partition and
    format USB HDs :(
     
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