Problems with New Radeon 9800 128 (non-pro)

By compnut5x
Oct 7, 2003
  1. Greetings all. I have a problem that is bugging me. I recently upgraded some parts of my pc to have speedier gameplay, but I am not getting that. Specifically, its my FPS in games that a problem. Here are my specs:

    Athlon T-bird 1.2 266mhz
    GA-7N400 Pro Nforce2 mobo
    Generic DDR333 1GB ram (2x512 running in DDR mode)
    Sapphire OEM Radeon 9800 128 non-pro
    Maxtor 40 GB 2mb 7200rmp HD
    Gigabit ethernet card (intel 1000/Pro)
    300watt Generic Power Supply.

    I have WinXP SP 1 installd
    DX 9.0b
    Catalyst 3.7 installed - All grapics card settings for ATI are at default
    1024x768 32bit 85Htz
    Latest Nforce drivers

    Bios Settings are set for AGP 8x
    Fast Writes enabled

    Now. With a configuration like that, I dont expect to get extreme frame rates (as my cpu is the main limiting factor). But, here are some of the numbers that I am pulling in Games. I used FRAPS 99 in most games to get fps.

    No One Live Forever 2 - approx 24-30 fps
    Wolfenstein Enemy Territory - approx 30fps indoors, 24 outdoors
    Quake2 OpenGL - 100fps
    Warcraft3 Frozen Throne - 15-27 fps in movies, 35 ingame.
    Unreal2 (lowest detail possible) - 20 indoor, 15 outdoor.

    Aquamark3 - 15.85 fps - GPU score of 2448, CPU score of 2248

    Does anyone have ANY idea why I am getting such low scores? I checked comparable scores in Aquamark3's database, and my score is the lowest of my category. The next lowest is a user with an Athlon 1.1 with 768 ram and a radeon 9800 reg, and he got 24 fps as his average.

    One theory I had was that the card wasn't getting enough power and was running at reduced speed. Is there anyway to tell this? I have 2 hard drives, a cd burner, dvd drive, floppy, ide zip, graphics card, and motherboard/cup all running off a 300watt generic power supply. Is it possible that its not getting enough power? If that might be the case, is there any way to check that (software prog possibly?) I dont have a multi-meter to test voltage, and I dont have a higher PSU to swap out. Is there a formula to tell how much stuff you can connect to a power supply (like how much power each item needs in watts to tell if I am over?) Could this theory have any creedence?

    Either way, ANY help from you all would be most greatly apprecated. Feel free to post your suggestions/comments and I will try them out and let you know if they work. Thanks a lot guys. Hope you can help me!

  2. Greeno

    Greeno TS Rookie Posts: 281

    What card did you have before hand?
  3. Nic

    Nic TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,549

    Its your CPU.
  4. Rick

    Rick TechSpot Staff Posts: 4,573   +65

    Agreed. Your CPU is very outdated.
  5. Steg

    Steg TS Rookie Posts: 269

    Im with Rick & Nic - your CPU is dragging your score down ALOT - it also doesnt help that the CPU and RAM are running on different bus speeds - nforces dont work well under those conditions
    do your machine a favour - buy a XP2500+ for £60 and get some decent air cooling stuck on it - overclock it to 3200+ speeds (you will need some faster ram for this - i recommend corsair) and watch those scores go through the roof


    p.s. with all that high tech kit the PSU is ideed going to start melting - try the Antec 450w - apparently they are very good
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