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PS4 hits 18 million sales, with PlayStation Now subscriptions to launch next week

By Scorpus
Jan 6, 2015
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  1. Sony has announced that worldwide sales for the PlayStation 4 have topped 18.5 million, with 4.1 million of those sales occurring during the holiday shopping season from late November to early January. The company also revealed 81.8 million PS4 games...

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  2. davislane1

    davislane1 TS Evangelist Posts: 3,555   +2,361

    This is the plan they should have launched with. $20/mo. with unlimited access makes the service cheaper than buying most of the library used. That said, this only retains value if they can continue to improve the library. As it stands now, the selection they have available doesn't make sense for more than a couple months of subscription.
     
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  3. Adhmuz

    Adhmuz TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,653   +523

    Great, so Sony found a way to make us pay to play our old PS3 games, and who thought backwards compatibility was removed because of technical challenges. Not at all it would seem, it was just another ploy to make their customers fork over money for games they potentially already own. It would be too convenient to allow us to put in our old PS3 discs and have them authenticate with the server allowing us the play our games, that we physically own, already paid for... Otherwise this is clearly a cry for help due to lack of available content, can anyone name more than 5 games that are next gen exclusive and actually good? Hell I had to rebuy GTA 5 to give it a reason to be turned on, yet I actually use my PS3 more due to it supporting media streaming and I have games worth playing on it. Which clearly Sony has their own agenda for these two things, Playstation Now replaces backwards compatibility, cost money, Video Unlimited replaces the media streaming feature, cost money, playing online now also cost money. Then when you do want to buy a new game game, it cost $80 after tax, and they try to sell you on ordering DLC in hope the game is actually worth playing. I think congratulations are in order here, for making the generation with the cheapest hardware/worse games the most expensive to buy in to. Way to go Sony, you clearly took Microsoft advice and put profit before the customer.
     
  4. davislane1

    davislane1 TS Evangelist Posts: 3,555   +2,361

    10/10. Perfect caricature of a console gamer who doesn't understand the differences between backwards compatibility and streaming technology.
     
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  5. Matt12345170

    Matt12345170 TS Booster Posts: 100   +28

    Either way. They did not include backwards compatible technology with the system, could they have? Maybe not at launch. Do that have a reason to do so in the future? Not really, they have found a way to *technically* allow old games to be played. This way, they get to charge you for it :D

    EDIT: Yes this allows you to play new games...I for one, don't give a ****. I would just want to play games that I already own. In addition, I hate streaming models, when you stop paying. You don't get to play anymore. That is sacrilegious =P
     
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  6. davislane1

    davislane1 TS Evangelist Posts: 3,555   +2,361

    Try, not at all. There are only two ways they could have included backwards compatibility with the PS4: (1) additional hardware or (2) emulation. In the case of (1), that would increase the cost of the PS4, making it less competitive against the XBO and/or financially unviable. In the case of (2), the PS4 doesn't have the specs to perform PS3 emulation.

    You're charged for every feature, service, button, and sticker included with the system. If console gamers want to continue to have a Playstation, Sony has to deliver a console that doesn't put the division out of business. Speculate what you will about the financial role of the Playstation 1-4 in Sony's books, ritual sacrifice of capital to appease a minority market is just that -- ritual sacrifice. We all know how well that worked out for Sega.
     
  7. Then enlighten us all on how was Sony supposed to provide backward compatibility for their old PowerPC-based software on their new x86-based system, genius.
    And while we're at it, why don't we just run ARM, PowerPC, POWER and SPARC software on our Windows PCs? Because apparently every CPU can run every piece of software there is, regardless of whether they use the same ISA or not.
     
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  8. risc32

    risc32 TS Booster Posts: 197   +87

    Exactly. its not like you could go and get quake 2 running on something like a scope, or win 95 running on a smart watch with little more than curiosity........
     
  9. Oh, yeah, that's totally the same thing! It's not like both examples are about very old software with very small performance requirements for today's standards, which you can't compare to a modern, heavily 3D-accelerated video game, is it?
    Also, suggesting emulation to offer backward compatibility is just comical. Not only because the PS4 simply lacks the processing power to do it, but also because it comes with compromises. Or do you actually believe that running Quake 2 on a osciloscope provides the same experience as actually running it as intended? Do you think Windows 95 on a smartwatch is ither a actual, usable smartwatch or and actual, usable Windows 95 PC? And is that the kind of solution you expect Sony to offer?
     
  10. Royalgok

    Royalgok TS Member Posts: 33

    You, sir know what you're talking about. It's shocking how many people think that making PS3 games run on the PS4 is just a matter of "porting" them so to speak. The Cell Broadband Engine (in the PS3) is totally different from the Jaguar unit used in the PS4 and the instruction set is completely different, meaning that if a PS3 game were to be made to work on the PS4, its game engine needs to be completely rewritten from the ground up to support the PS4's x86 instruction set. So, Sony not opting to advertise backward compatibility is understandable given how complex the game developer's task is going to be to bring a game written for the PS3 to the PS4. Believe it or not, not everything is a conspiracy you know..
     
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