PSU replacement and hard drive compatibility for OLD 1.6ghz athlon socket a

By vnyce928
Jan 2, 2008
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  1. hey guys well here is some info..sorry its not much but im scared the random shutdowns will damage my components.

    PC INFO
    i got a 1.6ghz Amd athlon socket a 467
    windows xp pro
    512mb ram
    250gb WD ide hard drive 7200 rpm

    CPU
    my computer turns off randomly i think it might be because of the heat it reaches up to 35 celsius within 10 mins. i had it since like 2002 or 03. i uses a 400 watt psu. i replaced the cpu fan recently with a coolmaster cpu fan and it seem to be a few degree lower but it still shuts down randomly.

    PSU
    I plan on getting a new psu but unsure which features i would need. I plan on going with a seasonic brand. I just want a psu that will be compatible with my old ide hard drive. Can i hook up my ide and if i buy a sata hard drive together ? sorry guys if this is a stupid question



    thanks in advance for your help
  2. Tedster

    Tedster Techspot old timer..... Posts: 10,074   +13

    I do not recommend mixing IDE with SATA - especially with older motherboards. There are some compatibility concerns with older controllers and boards.
    For a PSU, google PSU calculator, add 30% to the results and buy quality.
  3. SNGX1275

    SNGX1275 TS Forces Special Posts: 12,489   +292

    You'll be fine with just about any decent PSU, seasonic makes decent ones I believe so you should be safe there. New ones have the normal Molex and SATA power connectors, you should be safe there.

    Tedster is one of the few on this board that says you can't mix IDE and SATA, I've done it for years and never had a problem, as has every person I've ever talked to except Tedster, so I wouldn't be too concerned with that either. Does that motherboard even support SATA? (Wouldn't matter if it didn't if you used a PCI card)

    Also, those Athlon and Athlon XPs can take insane temps, they were just hot running processors, there is no need to be concerned unless you see them up above 75C, and if its a Thunderbird (don't hink they came that fast, but you might have been able to OC one that high) you are safe to 100C.
  4. vnyce928

    vnyce928 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter

    psu question>> watts and connectors

    if a PSU comes with
    these connectors
    could someone explain what each is for or examples

    1 x 12V (P4)
    1 x 12V(8Pin)
    6 x peripheral
    1 x PCI-E
    4 x SATA
    2 x Floppy

    it has this feature -105C capacitors and Single layer PCB
    is it worth the extra $$?

    and also i could get a psu with 600watts but i know i wont use so much...just around 400watts...does that mean that it will make my pc more hot? like if i buying a lower watt psu would keep the internal temp lower than a higher watt. if my total wattage usage is 380..and buying a 600 watt (for example) would cause the pc to be warmer compared to if i buy a 400 watt


    thanks for your prompt reply
  5. Tedster

    Tedster Techspot old timer..... Posts: 10,074   +13

    Older MSI mobos, especially with Athlon XP series had difficulty with SATA and PATA together. I know. I tried it. Most new motherboards now apparently don't have an issue. But to be on the safe side for him and to avoid headaches, it would best just to stick with one type.
    Also, since his CPU is slow, the faster speed of SATA really can't be justified due to the processor bottleneck. It's just $ wasted in my opinion.
  6. raybay

    raybay TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 10,716   +6

    Usually, the problems we have seen have been in the cables and connectors, not the boards themselves.
  7. vnyce928

    vnyce928 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter

    well i just want the new psu since it has these connections..and when i do get the sata i would get a whole new motherboard. I will get a new cpu and everything..the whole works. I will come back later for someone to help me find the right parts for my custom built pc.

    **And i still want to know if my pc only uses 390 watts and i get a lets say a 500 watt psu..does that mean that the pc would be warmer compared to if i bought a 400watt?

    thanks
  8. raybay

    raybay TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 10,716   +6

    No, there is little relationship from power supply to power supply, where heat is concerned... except the poorly built ones often run warmer... but heat is not generally considered an issue. Constant output is.

    Wattage is not as important as amperage. But what really counts is the amps available on the rails, and how constant the power availability is... Some power supplies drop and rise dramatically under load and the various demands of the computer.

    There is an excellent review on power supplies on this forum, and a great deal of stuff available with a Gurgle search that migh be of interest to you.
  9. vnyce928

    vnyce928 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter

    i bought a ... SeaSonic S12 Energy Plus SS-550HT ATX12V / EPS12V 550W Power Supply
    details>>>

    Model
    Brand SeaSonic
    Model SS-550HT
    Series S12 Energy Plus
    Spec
    Type ATX12V V2.2 / EPS12V V2.91
    Maximum Power 550W
    Fans 1 x 12cm Double Ball Bearing Cooling Fan
    PFC Active
    Main Connector 20+4Pin
    +12V Rails 4
    PCI-E Connectors 2 x 6Pin
    ATI CrossFire Support Yes
    NVIDIA SLI Support NVIDIA SLI Certified
    Modular Cabling Support No
    Efficiency up to 88%
    Energy-Efficient 80 PLUS Certified
    Input Voltage 100 - 240 V
    Input Frequency Range 50/60 Hz
    Output +3.3V@24A, +5V@30A, +12V1@18A, +12V2@18A, +12V3@18A, +12V4@18A, -12V@0.5A, +5VSB@3.0A
    MTBF 100,000 hours at 25°C under full load
    Approvals UL, CE, CB, TUV, FCC
    Features

    Connectors

    1 x Main connector (20+4Pin)
    1 x 12V(P4)
    1 x 12V(8Pin)
    9 x peripheral
    6 x SATA
    2 x Floppy
    2 x PCI-E
    Features Dual Magnetic Amplifiers [MagAmp]
    Double Forward Converter Design
    High Reliable Aluminum Electrolytic Capacitors
    Smart and Silent Fan Control [S2FC]
    Soft-Mounting Rubber Cushions
    Ultra Ventilation [Honey Comb Structure]
    All in One DC Cabling Design
    Patented Easy Swap Connector

    Manufacturer Warranty

    Parts 5 years limited
    Labor 5 years limited

    for $119..total
    what you guys think?
  10. raybay

    raybay TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 10,716   +6

    The Seasonic is an EXCELLENT product.
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