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Query on possible network connecton HELP!!!

By Nerhus
Sep 21, 2006
  1. Hello All!

    Downstairs is my network hook up. There is a modem and a d-link wireless router. I live upstairs with my main gaming pc which last week my wireless has been really messed up only on that computer. I am wondering if it is possible to make my connection to the upstairs computer wired instead of having it run on wireless. I play games that demand a solid connection to the internet. Can I bring two routers into the same connection? I am really rather new to this but I wish to learn quite a bit more. I do want to avoid taking an ethernet cable downstairs and across my house. Thank YOU
     
  2. Nodsu

    Nodsu TS Rookie Posts: 5,837   +6

    You want to connect your computer with wires, but at the same time you want to avoid using a cable? Please do elaborate :)
     
  3. Nerhus

    Nerhus TS Rookie Topic Starter

    I meant that is there some way I can connect my PC by wires just upstairs instead of having to bring an ethernet cable across my house. Like can I put a second modem or router upstairs so I can have a close connection?
     
  4. Rick

    Rick TechSpot Staff Posts: 4,573   +65

    There's those Powerline and Phoneline networking kits which turn your existing infrastructure (such as your electrical outlets) into network jacks. I've never actually installed one, so I don't know how good this option is - maybe someone here will have more information.

    They don't seem too popular, which might suggest they are not so good. :)

    The best way to run a cable upstairs is to drill a hole in the ceiling. This may or may not be an option though. That way you can avoid the stairs etc.. Running a networking cabling that matches your moulding color (like a white one perhaps) along the base moulding or celing moulding can be a very OK way to running unsightly cables through your house. It's not a huge eyesore if done properly.

    There are also 'gaming' wireless routers. I don't suspect they work as well as wired routers, but maybe they can provide a solid enough connection for your needs.
     
  5. Nerhus

    Nerhus TS Rookie Topic Starter

    Can I put the router upstairs as well as keep the other one downstairs? Or how would the second 'gaming' router be installed?
     
  6. tipstir

    tipstir TS Ambassador Posts: 2,392   +106

    Remember all wireless router are really wired router, but then again you can go both ways either wired or wireless. Depending on what you have in your home network system and if you want to run wires throughout the house then you could go with wired system instead. The wireless networking is still the better bet. I do both I use wired router and wireless router (more for access point connection) There are places where wireless is needed then there is times I need a wired connection to switch injunction.
     
  7. Rick

    Rick TechSpot Staff Posts: 4,573   +65

    You should only need one router. Wireless should reach to your computer upstairs, although the closer the better.

    If you want to plug in your upstairs computer directly, then you need to run a cable for sure.

    Also... Your wireless may also be performing poorly because of interference (try changing the channel to 1, 6 or 11 [ideally]) or limiting the speed from G (54Mbps) to B (11Mbps). But wireless is usually not reliable.
     
  8. jobeard

    jobeard TS Ambassador Posts: 9,317   +618

    Wired connections are limited to 100meters between NICs -- that's a very BIG house!
    Standard ethernet Cat-5 cables at 100 feet cost ~$80USD and they're ready
    to use (rj45 on both ends); Cat-5a(extra shielding) are even more expensive.
    This makes wiring expensive as well as messy, but it will avoid the possible wireless drop-out.

    You should understand however, that packet loss is normal regardless of the transport.
    To determine how reliable your ISP connection is, try this:
    pathping -n 500 $your-dns-ip-address​
    this will show the avgerage packet loss to your ISP. If it is high, then
    your games will still suffer regardless of wired vs wireless connections.

    today, my connection is perfect (0% losses) but far more typical would be
    1-2% loss

    Code:
    Tracing route to 207.217.126.41 over a maximum of 30 hops
    
      0  192.168.0.4
      1  192.168.0.1
      2  70.32.240.1
      3  24.48.219.213
      4     *     24.48.219.5
      5  24.48.219.105
      6     *     66.109.15.113
      7  66.109.3.137
      8     *     66.109.3.130
      9  206.223.123.32
     10     *     209.165.107.181
     11  209.165.101.3
     12     *        *        *
    Computing statistics for 300 seconds...
                Source to Here   This Node/Link
    Hop  RTT    Lost/Sent = Pct  Lost/Sent = Pct  Address
      0                                           192.168.0.4
                                    0/ 100 =  0%   |
      1    0ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  192.168.0.1
                                    0/ 100 =  0%   |
      2    9ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  70.32.240.1
                                    0/ 100 =  0%   |
      3    9ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  24.48.219.213
                                    0/ 100 =  0%   |
      4   10ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  24.48.219.5
                                    0/ 100 =  0%   |
      5   16ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  24.48.219.105
                                    0/ 100 =  0%   |
      6   19ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  66.109.15.113
                                    0/ 100 =  0%   |
      7   12ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  66.109.3.137
                                    0/ 100 =  0%   |
      8   14ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  66.109.3.130
                                    0/ 100 =  0%   |
      9   13ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  206.223.123.32
                                    0/ 100 =  0%   |
     10   18ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  209.165.107.181
                                    0/ 100 =  0%   |
     11   16ms     0/ 100 =  0%     0/ 100 =  0%  209.165.101.3
                                  100/ 100 =100%   |
     [COLOR="RoyalBlue"]12  ---     100/ 100 =100%     0/ 100 =  0%  0.0.0.0[/COLOR]
    
    Trace complete.
    
     
  9. Nodsu

    Nodsu TS Rookie Posts: 5,837   +6

    Why do you want to put a second router upstairs? How would the internet get to the second router?
     
  10. tipstir

    tipstir TS Ambassador Posts: 2,392   +106

    You can put it upstairs or downstairs. I just use a wired box because of speed purpose. The wireless router is use as access point for my wireless laptops and desktop that have those devices installed, while the main wired router is use as the DHCP/DNS server for the rest of the desktops that are wired. This is the way I do it, I use to use IPCOP Linux Router which you would turn and old PC into a hardware router. I'll go back to that when I get the time and figure out a problem that I turned up after I had moved from one old dwelling to another new location.
     
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