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random BSOD's ,new PC

By Sunsnukis
Sep 25, 2007
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  1. Hello everybody ,I'm new here :)
    and i've got a prob :(
    so i've got this pile of new parts some month ago,assembled and everything seemed to go so well....
    Until a couple of weeks ago,i started getting BSODs randomly.With all kinds of errors and i cant seem to understand WinDBG output :(
    well,the last one says:

    BAD_POOL_HEADER (19)
    The pool is already corrupt at the time of the current request.
    This may or may not be due to the caller.
    The internal pool links must be walked to figure out a possible cause of
    the problem, and then special pool applied to the suspect tags or the driver
    verifier to a suspect driver.
    Arguments:
    Arg1: 00000020, a pool block header size is corrupt.
    Arg2: ff1f9748, The pool entry we were looking for within the page.
    Arg3: ff1fa488, The next pool entry.
    Arg4: ffa8bf30, (reserved)


    BUGCHECK_STR: 0x19_20

    POOL_ADDRESS: ff1f9748

    CUSTOMER_CRASH_COUNT: 1

    DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID: DRIVER_FAULT

    PROCESS_NAME: System

    LAST_CONTROL_TRANSFER: from 8054a583 to 804f9c37

    STACK_TEXT:
    f890ad0c 8054a583 00000019 00000020 ff1f9748 nt!KeBugCheckEx+0x1b
    f890ad5c 80509ab3 ff1f9750 00000000 80560d80 nt!ExFreePoolWithTag+0x2a3
    f890ad8c 8050b229 e13de248 00000000 82357020 nt!MiSegmentDelete+0x1b3
    f890adac 805ce794 00000000 00000000 00000000 nt!MiDereferenceSegmentThread+0xab
    f890addc 805450ce 8050b17e 00000000 00000000 nt!PspSystemThreadStartup+0x34
    00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 nt!KiThreadStartup+0x16


    STACK_COMMAND: kb

    FOLLOWUP_IP:
    nt!ExFreePoolWithTag+2a3
    8054a583 8b45f8 mov eax,dword ptr [ebp-8]

    SYMBOL_STACK_INDEX: 1

    FOLLOWUP_NAME: MachineOwner

    MODULE_NAME: nt

    IMAGE_NAME: ntkrpamp.exe

    DEBUG_FLR_IMAGE_TIMESTAMP: 41107b0d

    SYMBOL_NAME: nt!ExFreePoolWithTag+2a3

    FAILURE_BUCKET_ID: 0x19_20_nt!ExFreePoolWithTag+2a3

    BUCKET_ID: 0x19_20_nt!ExFreePoolWithTag+2a3

    Followup: MachineOwner


    I could post some more of these outputs,if it helps or i should rather attach some minidumps?I'll atach a couple of the last ones anyways.
    So if anybody could help me out a bit to understand the prob I would be very very thankfull :p
    Thanks in advance anyway :)
  2. Sunsnukis

    Sunsnukis TS Rookie Topic Starter

    oh and i forgot to point out that I suspect RAM.I've currently tested without one of the modules (i have 2) no go,stil bsod,just now i swapped them,testing...
  3. peterdiva

    peterdiva TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 1,202

    One of the dumps has crashed with bugcheck 1A and this is usually a RAM problem.

    BugCheck 1A, {41284, 85e12001, 0, c0e00000}
    Probably caused by : ntoskrnl.exe ( nt!PspReaper+25 )
  4. Sunsnukis

    Sunsnukis TS Rookie Topic Starter

    Hey peterdiva thanks for the reply :)
    Well my guess is also RAM,but thats just my speculation.I'v checked the first dump ,its caused by a game and well i've just noticed,the first bsod i had the first day I installed windows :blackeye:
    Quite a worying thing I say.
    But well i have to know for sure if its RAM thats causing everything and not the HDD on eide ,or the PSU thats left from the pc before because I have to send the part to the dealer for warranty and it costs a bit.
    Is there any way to know for sure?Except offcourse the way of disconnecting stuff randomly :D
  5. Sunsnukis

    Sunsnukis TS Rookie Topic Starter

    update : its either both RAM modules are faulty in the same way or its not RAM at all.Got BSOD'ed with both of the modules at a time.
    Here's the last kind.
    DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL (d1)
    An attempt was made to access a pageable (or completely invalid) address at an
    interrupt request level (IRQL) that is too high. This is usually
    caused by drivers using improper addresses.
    If kernel debugger is available get stack backtrace.
    Arguments:
    Arg1: f7c52f60, memory referenced
    Arg2: 00000002, IRQL
    Arg3: 00000001, value 0 = read operation, 1 = write operation
    Arg4: aa91976c, address which referenced memory

    Debugging Details:
    ------------------

    *** ERROR: Symbol file could not be found. Defaulted to export symbols for tcpip.sys -
    *** ERROR: Symbol file could not be found. Defaulted to export symbols for NDIS.sys -
    *** ERROR: Symbol file could not be found. Defaulted to export symbols for psched.sys -
    *** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for NVENETFD.sys
    *** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for NVENETFD.sys

    WRITE_ADDRESS: f7c52f60

    CURRENT_IRQL: 2

    FAULTING_IP:
    ipnat+476c
    aa91976c 8907 mov dword ptr [edi],eax

    CUSTOMER_CRASH_COUNT: 1

    DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID: DRIVER_FAULT

    BUGCHECK_STR: 0xD1

    PROCESS_NAME: Idle

    LAST_CONTROL_TRANSFER: from aa91ab08 to aa91976c

    STACK_TEXT:
    WARNING: Stack unwind information not available. Following frames may be wrong.
    f88ca660 aa91ab08 ff2ffd48 00000000 fefc83d0 ipnat+0x476c
    f88ca688 aa92700f 0000c006 f88ca6c8 f88ca6d8 ipnat+0x5b08
    f88ca710 aa9276ef 00000000 f88ca706 aa929441 ipnat+0x1200f
    f88ca784 aa9892be f88ca838 00000000 f88ca7c8 ipnat+0x126ef
    f88ca8c4 aa9905d4 aa9c74b8 00000000 f8cce5a0 tcpip!IPTransmit+0x67b
    f88ca918 aa9922d5 fa2c05b4 00000002 fa2be3e0 tcpip!IPTransmit+0x7991
    f88ca92c aa991f8e fa2be3e0 00000000 00000002 tcpip!IPTransmit+0x9692
    f88ca9b0 aa987ef9 813e23c8 9e00a8c0 f8f68752 tcpip!IPTransmit+0x934b
    f88caa10 aa987b19 00000020 813e23c8 aa98a076 tcpip!IPFreeBuff+0x638
    f88caa8c aa987836 aa9c7210 813e23c8 819610d8 tcpip!IPFreeBuff+0x258
    f88cab44 aa986922 813e23c8 819610ec 00000020 tcpip+0x1836
    f88cab84 aa98684d 00000000 81f50b48 819610ca tcpip+0x922
    f88cabc0 f81edc9f ffa8cb48 00000000 f7c3bb40 tcpip+0x84d
    f88cac14 f7c3601d 009657c8 821dea48 00000001 NDIS!FddiFilterDprIndicateReceive+0xaa7
    f88cac28 f7c361b4 822dcad0 821dea48 00000001 psched!RegisterPsComponent+0x6cef
    f88cac4c f7c365f9 814f4700 00000000 822dcad0 psched!RegisterPsComponent+0x6e86
    f88cac64 f81edd40 814f46f8 00000000 8207f000 psched!RegisterPsComponent+0x72cb
    f88cacb4 f85451ea 009657c8 8207f5d4 00000001 NDIS!FddiFilterDprIndicateReceive+0xb48
    00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 NVENETFD+0x61ea


    STACK_COMMAND: kb

    FOLLOWUP_IP:
    ipnat+476c
    aa91976c 8907 mov dword ptr [edi],eax

    SYMBOL_STACK_INDEX: 0

    FOLLOWUP_NAME: MachineOwner

    MODULE_NAME: ipnat

    IMAGE_NAME: ipnat.sys

    DEBUG_FLR_IMAGE_TIMESTAMP: 41107c80

    SYMBOL_NAME: ipnat+476c

    FAILURE_BUCKET_ID: 0xD1_W_ipnat+476c

    BUCKET_ID: 0xD1_W_ipnat+476c

    Followup: MachineOwner



    Any ideas of the real cause of faults?
  6. Sunsnukis

    Sunsnukis TS Rookie Topic Starter

    Oh ,and I just wanted to add - BSOD's ~60% happen at night,with no intensive apps working,so that probably rules out overheating and isuficient PSU.What does that leave me with?!:blackeye:
  7. Firedawg1971

    Firedawg1971 TS Rookie Posts: 57

  8. Sunsnukis

    Sunsnukis TS Rookie Topic Starter

    I have memtest it passes all night,no errors:confused:
    HD test pending
  9. Firedawg1971

    Firedawg1971 TS Rookie Posts: 57

    Ok so you eliminated the memory as bad, also the psu, and motherboard since running overnight and no BSOD.

    Now you are down to the HD and software. Its all about the process of elimination.
  10. gbhall

    gbhall TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,344   +49

    You should also suspect the video card. I think your m/b has built-in video, so you can temporarily remove your ATI card, install driver for the onboard and see if the problem is gone.
  11. mickzer

    mickzer TS Rookie Posts: 101

     
  12. Sunsnukis

    Sunsnukis TS Rookie Topic Starter

    hey guys,I think everything has resolved itself though i dont know how
    :blush:
    I've reinstalled windows on saturday and from then on no bsod's not a single one.I've tested thoroughly everything and as it seems all is well.
    I think my prob was because i had both ati and nvidia vga'as installed at the same time.Like somebody pointed out I've got an integrated one as well as one on pci-x.So i guess thats it,thanks everybody for replys :D
    BEER TO AAL :stickout:
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