I just bought myself a quite decently ATI Radeon 9600 Pro. It was not too expensive,but hey, it's more than average or than a Radeon 9200 and GFX 5200 my friends bought.... Anyway, I couldn't find any branded cards so I just bought the retail ati card. The do the cards with their own chips, I guessed they must be good.. No exotic cooler and stuff buy it's okay. Although they are not cheaper than the others. I open the nice package, and I see the card, a manual and a cd with drivers... Nothing more. This is lame!!!!!!!!! My brother bought a Chaintech Geforce 5200 and it came with the extras like PowerDVD 5, a S-Video cable and a DVI-to-VGA adapter. This is the first and last ATI retail card I buy. They should care more in what they sell. I'm dissapointed with them and I recommend noone buys a retail ATI card. Get a Saphire or any other good named brand and you'll get a nicer card with better cooling and a few ESSENTIAL extras as the S-Video cable and the dvi adapter.