I was wondering if future athlon procs, like the "Sledgehammer" and "Clawhammer" were going to be Socket A, also does anyone know when they are coming out?

Thanks, -Bourbon

The *hammers are based on a 64bit/32bit architechture so I would think a new platform would be needed to take advantage of the 64bit chip...

Sledgehammer and Clawhammer are one in the same. (Or are they?) I know for a fact that these will not use Socket A for the simple reason they use 64-bit architectures. As for when they're coming out, It'd be safe to say 3rd-4th quarter 2002.

i think the clawhammer is supposed to be a server proc?

McKinley is the server processor. As for the seperate Hammers, I haven't heard.

I'm not sure the Hammer is gonna need a different socket, the AMD roadmaps brag a lot about the fact that it doesn't change the socket with every processor change (I'm sure they weren't thinking of Intel when saying that ).

didou, thats what i was thinking, do any of the moderators know??

With all the functionality of the northbridge, apart from AGP, being moved to on-die I don't think that the hammers will be on socketA. I would be very surprised if they were.

I would think it would have to have a new socket. It will have double the address/data lines to access. I wonder if they will be able to even use a 4 layer M/B. They may be able to use the same memory but might have to use pairs like the older motherboards that used to use bank simms untill they make different meory modules. Just guessing, can't wait to see the first M/B's for them. These should be some very fast systems

Actually I contacted AMD a couple of months ago about this, and they said it is possible but not confirmed. Maybe Socket A will be kept at the start and then phased out?

First viewing of Hammer CPUS at Intel Developer Forum

I think we can safely say that the Hammers won't be making use of Socket A motherboards...

w00t this is a very old thread. I remember discussions with my friends about the 64 bit future. (And still we are waiting a true 64 bit OS from ol' Bill) Yup. The good ol days of Socket A. Simple days when AGP was cool and you would be burned alive for speaking about something called PCI-Express replacing AGP. Haha. Yup...