Steve Ballmer: Android is too wild and iOS is too tightly controlled

By Shawn Knight
Nov 15, 2012
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  1. Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer recently sat down with LinkedIn co-founder and venture capitalist Reid Hoffman at a Churchill Club event to discuss a wide variety of tech topics. Of particular interest during the chat were Ballmer's comments on the top...

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  2. VitalyT

    VitalyT TechSpot Guru Posts: 1,575   +484

    My man! :)

    Whatyasaying? Meh, don't matter, you're the man! Nock'em dead!

    :)
  3. Ray Sanford

    Ray Sanford Newcomer, in training

    Ballmer is late to the game with an inferior product. I'll stick with an Apple or Android phone.
  4. Chazz

    Chazz TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 623   +56

    If you actually used the product you wouldn't be saying that.
    treeski likes this.
  5. Ray Sanford

    Ray Sanford Newcomer, in training

    Tried it at the Verizon store. Hated it.
    psycros likes this.
  6. I used a WP7 with mango since release 2 years ago, Switched to Android a few months back and have no regrets, WP7 lacked apps I waited 2 years and not anymore. The OS was fine( on WP7) and looked great but till they get apps its alway gonna be there down side IMO.
  7. Wendig0

    Wendig0 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,073   +75

    I think it's time for M$ to find a new ceo. Ballmer has been out of touch for way too long.
    psycros likes this.
  8. Darth Shiv

    Darth Shiv TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 1,131   +171

    5 minutes of use is hardly a valid comparison and you sound a bit closed minded. The platform has a lot going for it. Cross platform development (you can re-use your business logic in WinPhone, on Windows based tablets, Android and Linux via Mono and of course, Windows), fresh interface (doesn't just look like iPhone++), it actually uses a lot of screen real estate in a reasonable manor.

    I still use Android but a few of my colleagues are Win Phone devs so we get a bit of exposure here.
  9. psycros

    psycros TechSpot Booster Posts: 670   +202

    The problem is that Ballmer is a bean counter, and that's about it. He's easily impressed by a shiny new thing regardless of its market relevance. Unfortunately, Microsoft has neither a zombie following like Apple nor a bottom-up hacker culture like Google. Microsoft displaced IBM because it understood the consumer market and IBM didn't. Now Microsoft is the one who's forgotten how to deliver a product that makes sense to the average user. Windows 8 is about as intuitive and attractive as a tax return. Euro-minimalism = designer laziness and universal <I>un</I>appeal. After decades of increasing eye candy and user empowerment, its the computing equivalent of Prohibition. With Sinofsky gone, Ballmer has no one left to throw under the bus when the numbers finally come out.
    Wendig0 likes this.
  10. Redondo

    Redondo Newcomer, in training

    Woah there Johnny, classic Win shell is only a click away. The Start button is already replicated by 3rd party software. Leave the Metro impact to the tech naive. W8 is still an improved Win7 under the hood. The GUI is skin deep. Kind of unfair to bang down on an OS because you don't like an *additional* interface.
  11. Khanonate

    Khanonate TechSpot Member Posts: 91   +7

    He still has some chairs...
     
  12. PinothyJ

    PinothyJ TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 429   +15

    I try to love Android but it goes out of my way to ensure I have no control and the applications on my device have it all. Imagine you had a program on your computer that you like to use, so you are not going to get rid of it, but you do not want to to load on start up and you do not want it to pop up when you close it down and yet it does both these things regardless of your actions. If this was the case you would have a piece of malware on your machine and your antivirus would get rid of it quick smart, but on an Android device they are called 'apps' and are the bread and butter.

    Sigh...
  13. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 10,398   +831

    So you're saying needing to add something like "Rocket Dock",to get a start button, and BUY "Windows Media Center" software is the road forward?

    It's a shame they charge for maps at the gas station nowadays.

    Either that, or you should submit to the trifecta of being overcharged, and buy one,.
    Wendig0 likes this.
  14. Hi there, guys I had 2 wp7 phones. First was the lg optimus 7 with wp7 on board. It was the worst decision in my whole life!No bluetooth sharing, no sd-card, no mass storage USB mode, no apps, navigation sucked big time, PC connection only by Zune, not to mention lack of mp3 ringtones. I bought 440 euros useless phone. Its not over yet, Microsoft is blind, they had been told about all the lacks not only from me but from 10000000 users worldwide, what they did? They removed our posts from MS forums:) Few weeks later phone was sold to my buddy for 250 euros. I almost lost my best friend because of stupid OS! He forced me to buy once again this piece of crap just to suffer together, so I did it and phone of my choice was HTC Mozart. Great handset killed by OS. After few updates we surrendered, nobody wanted to buy them from us. Not even for less then half price. Being so pissed on MS we blew up both phones with home made explosives, not a joke. I went for Moto Atrix and me buddy jumped on Galaxy s2. Since then I am the happiest man in solar system. Hate MS not for not doing but for not listening.
  15. Android is too wild and iOs is too tightly controlled.. so he wants to say that Windowsphone is the best?
  16. > I bought 440 euros useless phone. Microsoft is blind, they had been told about all the lacks ... They removed our posts from MS forums. Few weeks later phone was sold to my buddy for 250 euros. I almost lost my best friend because of stupid OS! He forced me to buy once again this piece of crap just to suffer together, so I did it and phone of my choice was HTC Mozart. After few updates we surrendered, nobody wanted to buy them from us. Not even for less then half price. Being so pissed on MS we blew up both phones with home made explosives, not a joke.

    Congratulations, I think thats the dumbest thing I've read in the last few days, on like a couple of levels...

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  17. OortCloud

    OortCloud Newcomer, in training Posts: 33

    "Euro-minimalism = designer laziness and universal unappeal."

    Only under the anonymity of the internet would people think its OK to come up with nonsense like this and state it like fact. I (and a lot of other people) actually think the design of Modern UI and its predecessor in WP7 was sharp and clean. Sure its got its issues, as have all the OS's (especially a lack of apps) but I very much doubt these issues were due to "designer laziness". I expect an awful lot of people spent a huge amount of time and resource trying to pare-down the clutter from traditional GUI design to get to something more clean and to-the-point. It would have been much easier to copy the iOS/Android paradigm and have yet another 9 desktop panels side by side piled with app Icons.

    Personally I do find it quite appealing, but then I am a "euro", so I guess my euro-ness must be just slightly outweighing my universal-ness.


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