Nope I went there first. Under miscellaneous, Java Quick Starters greyed (rather than black) and unchecked. I can't check or uncheck it...and the update scheduler just crashed again without me even doing anything. I think from what I read JavaRa seems to delete it for some reason sometimes. So if I tell it not to look for updates it should stop that..but I really didn't want to do that though it won't kill me.