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System crash when using RW discs

By Tony Pagett
Nov 6, 2007
  1. I have used a multi drive DVD rom for about two years now with no problems but suddenly I keep getting the dreaded blue screen with 'Multiple IRP complete requests' whenever I try to use a CD-RW or DVD-RW. I have tried everything that people can suggest as to the cause of this--driver conflicts, new hardware/software etc etc. I have used system restore to take me back to before the last time I used the drive to backup my files but still no joy. Tonight I have realised that I can record to CD-R disks but as soon as I put in a RW disk I get the system crash.
    Any ideas please?

    Regards
     
  2. Rik

    Rik Banned Posts: 3,814

    Google and get memtest and run it for atleast 7 passes.
     
  3. Tony Pagett

    Tony Pagett TS Rookie Topic Starter

    Done this. Left it running all night. 34 passes!! No problems
     
  4. Rolfman

    Rolfman TS Enthusiast Posts: 95

    May be is the cd RW itself......

    Have you tryed testing with a diferent RW...
    get an extra one and tet it if it work's then
    your RW is completely busted.

    If it odesnt work thenchange IDE cables , also test
    them with two difierent RW.

    Finally , this will be massively odd if it is...
    check if you have an IRQ confilct of some sort.

    also ...may i ask how many optical and storage drives do you currently own?
     
  5. zipperman

    zipperman TS Rookie Posts: 1,179   +7

    Why not name the software,so i have to guess.
    Is it Nero ? What version ? Do you know how to use incd ?
    Are you running Incd ?
    Did you Format the RW's ?
    Nero has all the tests included.Use theirs,not 3rd party.
    An RW is the same as a Floppy disc.Does a floppy cause a crash ?
     
  6. Rik

    Rik Banned Posts: 3,814

    How on earth can you say that an RW and a floppy are the same thing?
    The one and only thing thay have in common is the fact they store data.

    A floppy drive runs of the floppy controller.
    A cd burner runs off an ata channel (new one off a sata channel).
    Floppys run at 1 slow speed.
    Rw's can run at a range of speeds.
    Floppys have a maximum capacity of 2.88meg.
    Rw's have a maximum of 700meg for cd and 4.7gig for dvd.
    Floppys are magnetic storage devices.
    Rw's are optical storage devices.
    They both use different power molexes.

    The list goes on and on.
     
  7. Tony Pagett

    Tony Pagett TS Rookie Topic Starter

    I am using an LG super multi DVD rom running InCD. I have always used this hardware and software without problems.
    I cannot format a RW disk because as soon as I put one into the drive I get the dreaded blue screen.
    I have also removed the DVD drive and put in an old CD drive. The same thing happens. I can record to CD-R disks but CD-RW disks cause a system crash.
     
  8. Cinders

    Cinders TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 872   +12

    Err the second post or the entire thread?

    Chances are your LG is mostly dead. I've had the same problem with XP, InCD and an old LiteOn burner. The burner was dead, and InCD isn't fault tolerable.
     
  9. Tony Pagett

    Tony Pagett TS Rookie Topic Starter

    But I get the same problem with a different burner
     
  10. Rik

    Rik Banned Posts: 3,814

    Out of interest, have you tried a different psu?
     
  11. Tony Pagett

    Tony Pagett TS Rookie Topic Starter

    No. I don't have access to a different psu
     
  12. zipperman

    zipperman TS Rookie Posts: 1,179   +7

    You missed the point

    The amount it holds has nothing to do with my comparison.
    I've seen this expression on Forums many times,
    An RW is like a "large Floppy" They can be Fromated and used again.
    CD and DVD-r's can only be written to once,and files can't be deleted.
    This makes RW's suitable for backing up data a bit at a time.
    Then burn it to a one time disc.But you need incd running on yhe taskbar.
    So if it's not then that might be why RW's crash.
     
  13. Rik

    Rik Banned Posts: 3,814

    But, they work in a completely different way to a floppy, use different hardware, and different software. So his ability to write floppys will have absolutely no bearing whatsoever with his problem.
     
  14. zipperman

    zipperman TS Rookie Posts: 1,179   +7

    Yes it will

    If the RW isn't formated.
    I'm only discussing discs,not hardware and details.
    The topic is useing rw's.This is a possible sollution.You need this feature if useing RW's Tony.Please comment before i quit this topic.
    rik,Format is Formating for Floppys , hard drives and RW's.
    Before they can be used.
    :D
     
  15. Rik

    Rik Banned Posts: 3,814


    That is the issue that needs addressing, it's absloutely nothing to do with formatting at all.
     
  16. zipperman

    zipperman TS Rookie Posts: 1,179   +7

    Burners features

    Message for Tony's replys.
    Does it do everything else ?
    Did you see my attachment.
    Theres no reason to put an RW in the drive.
    They don't use burning,just Formating.
    Use it like you use your hard drive to add or remove files.
    Name your burning software.
    Try updateing your Firmware.
     
  17. Tony Pagett

    Tony Pagett TS Rookie Topic Starter

    How can I use it if I there is no reason to put an RW in the drive?

    How can I use it like a hard drive if I cant put an RW in the drive?
     
  18. zipperman

    zipperman TS Rookie Posts: 1,179   +7

    Like this

    What are you doing besides putting the disk in the drive ?
    Yes you have to put it in a drive like any other disc,but you don't
    use your still unnamed software.It's just useing it's rom option.
    But reading this type of disk in My Computer allows you to add or delete files.
    Here a picture of my RW in MY DVD-rom Burner.But it's been Formated.
    You may have a damaged disc.
     
  19. Tony Pagett

    Tony Pagett TS Rookie Topic Starter

    On the blue crash screen it says "Disable BIOS memory options such as caching or shadowing".
    Will this help? if so how do I do this?
     
  20. Rik

    Rik Banned Posts: 3,814

    For that, you will need to refer to your mobo manual.
     
  21. howard_hopkinso

    howard_hopkinso TS Rookie Posts: 24,177   +19

    Hello and welcome to Techspot.

    When windows crashes, it usually writes a minidump(.dmp file) to the C:\windows\minidump folder.

    Please attach 5 or 6 of your latest minidumps for analysis.

    Regards Howard :wave: :wave:
     
  22. Tony Pagett

    Tony Pagett TS Rookie Topic Starter

    I thought I had found the problem with my system (a driver conflict with Zone Alarm) and I got about half way through formatting a DVD-RW but then I got another blue screen with:
    Stop 0x0000007E
    This time it did not say 'Multiple IRP complete requests'.

    I am sorry Howard I did not see your post (it was on page 2 and I did not see the next page option until just)

    I have attached my last 5 minidumps. As you can see by the dates I am having a bad day!
     
  23. howard_hopkinso

    howard_hopkinso TS Rookie Posts: 24,177   +19

    Your minidumps crash at InCDfs.SYS. this is part of your Nero burning software.

    I suggest uninstalling Nero and seeing if that helps.

    Regards Howard :)
     
  24. Tony Pagett

    Tony Pagett TS Rookie Topic Starter

    Deleted all of Nero. Still no change.
     
  25. howard_hopkinso

    howard_hopkinso TS Rookie Posts: 24,177   +19

    Ok, please post any further minidumps.

    Regards Howard :)
     
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