Trying to build budget gaming computer w/o bottleneck. Need Insight

hood6558 said:
You misunderstood me, I built my rig this way, and used every part as soon as I got it, and I had a working, upgraded computer at every step of the way. Sorry if the post was too long! And yes, you should see better frame rates with the i5 & mobo, I used mine with a 550 Ti when I first built it, and it worked out very well.
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Ah, sorry for the misunderstanding. But yes that is a similar plan to mine. I wanted the new mobo chip setup because of the breathing room for future future upgrades. If that is around 300$ for a base upgrade I say thats worth it in the long run. It seems the 3570k is fairly easy to overclock and cool at that, so it seems like a good start at that point.
 
Would the mobo I posted earlier suffice in the long run, or should I spend a bit more for future proofing?
EDIT: Will this mobo be great if overclocking is one of my options?
 
Waffe said:
Would the mobo I posted earlier suffice in the long run, or should I spend a bit more for future proofing?
EDIT: Will this mobo be great if overclocking is one of my options?
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I would not over clock with a hp chassis containing parts. Overheating will become a big issue.
 
GhostRyder said:
No I agree with you, Haswell is pretty underwhelming to say the least, but its still a more powerful chip. My reason for picking the chip is that I try to pick the most recent generation part to give the most bang out of your system if the price allows for it. Now if we were going to swap out the same board for the 3570k chip, you would save ~60 dollars total. Now if you do that, I would grab a nice aftermarket cooler for the chip with lla the same style parts listed to give yourself some overclocking room and a nice silent gaming system all around.

But I still stand by getting the most Bang out of your system
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The "most recent generation" is almost never the most bang for the buck.
 
Heres what I would do if I were you since you want to go with the 3570k setup. To get a good rig with loads of expandability for later try doing something like this.

i5 3570k $220
MSI Z77 Gaming $140 ($130 with a rebate)
That totals to ~$360 which leaves ~140 for other parts.
Now depending on where you want to invest this money, you can put it into better CPU cooling and a case but that will be limited based on how much you want to spend.
For air cooling, I tend to like one of these personally

CoolerMaster Hyper N 520 $30
or
Xigmatek Dark Knight II $50
Of course there are lots of options, these are just examples of two I have had people use that like them.
Now on the root of liquid cooling, you have some options, but because your going to need a case, that holds back the ones you can get.

Corsair H80i $73
or
Antec Kuhler H2O 620 $74 (59 with a rebate)
or
Corsair Hydro Series H50 $60 (50 with a rebate)

Then of course we get to the cases, now depending on how much you want to spend above will add room for a nicer case. You will need a case no matter what, so make sure you get one with plenty of room for expandability based on your choices above, heres a few that would fit the budget depending and should work with everything above.

NZXT Phantom $110
or
Thermaltake Commander $40 (30 with a rebate)
or
NZXT Apollo $60

Hope this can help you out, I would try to balance the prices of the case and such to be able to afford a decent case, and better cooler. Maybe focus more on case that cooler because the cooler can also be upgraded later if you want to go higher on overclocking or such.

@ hellokitty[hk]
When did I ever say bang for buck? I said Bang as in Power, not bang for buck, if we were going there, its AMD all the way.
 
GhostRyder said:
Heres what I would do if I were you since you want to go with the 3570k setup. To get a good rig with loads of expandability for later try doing something like this.

i5 3570k $220
MSI Z77 Gaming $140 ($130 with a rebate)
That totals to ~$360 which leaves ~140 for other parts.
Now depending on where you want to invest this money, you can put it into better CPU cooling and a case but that will be limited based on how much you want to spend.
For air cooling, I tend to like one of these personally

CoolerMaster Hyper N 520 $30
or
Xigmatek Dark Knight II $50
Of course there are lots of options, these are just examples of two I have had people use that like them.
Now on the root of liquid cooling, you have some options, but because your going to need a case, that holds back the ones you can get.

Corsair H80i $73
or
Antec Kuhler H2O 620 $74 (59 with a rebate)
or
Corsair Hydro Series H50 $60 (50 with a rebate)

Then of course we get to the cases, now depending on how much you want to spend above will add room for a nicer case. You will need a case no matter what, so make sure you get one with plenty of room for expandability based on your choices above, heres a few that would fit the budget depending and should work with everything above.

NZXT Phantom $110
or
Thermaltake Commander $40 (30 with a rebate)
or
NZXT Apollo $60

Hope this can help you out, I would try to balance the prices of the case and such to be able to afford a decent case, and better cooler. Maybe focus more on case that cooler because the cooler can also be upgraded later if you want to go higher on overclocking or such.

@ hellokitty[hk]
When did I ever say bang for buck? I said Bang as in Power, not bang for buck, if we were going there, its AMD all the way.
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Is this roomy enough?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=
I have also been considering(If I had leftovers of course) getting a fresh hard drive SSD and possibly faster RAM.
 
That case my friend bought and runs in his machine, you should have enough room for most parts. Its a pretty roomy case, the only complaint is a lack of special features. But that case is nice and he loves his computer.
 
GhostRyder said:
That case my friend bought and runs in his machine, you should have enough room for most parts. Its a pretty roomy case, the only complaint is a lack of special features. But that case is nice and he loves his computer.
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Also it looks mad nice and has some nice features for a 30$ price tag. I keep going back to that one so I think it's my choice. Just need a highly customizatble mobo. The ones posted are quite nice though. Ill check the budget, maybe slide in those extra parts instead of re-using my old ones. Maybe get a nice heatsink for the cpu.
 
When you actually set everything up, when is it appropriate to slam in the win7 disc?
Also some nice tips of things to avoid and such when putting this thing together(off topic I know).
 
Waffe said:
When you actually set everything up, when is it appropriate to slam in the win7 disc?
Also some nice tips of things to avoid and such when putting this thing together(off topic I know).
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After you put it together, when you boot it as long as everything looks fine then just slap it in.
Not really, Put the CPU on the board before you screw the board to the case and then attach it inside the case, just eh usual stuff. The heatsink needs to be attached of course once you mount everything in the case before you attach all the other connectors.
 
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GhostRyder said:
In order:
After you put it together, when you boot it as long as everything looks fine then just slap it in.
Not really, Put the CPU on the board before you screw the board to the case and then attach it inside the case, just eh usual stuff. The heatsink needs to be attached of course once you mount everything in the case before you attach all the other connectors.
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Yea I know about the cpu and heatsink and stuff. But when you boot for the first time does the bios launch for configuration of the system? If so, I presume the win7 disc comes after that?
I might just get a fresh(faster) hard drive with this as well for a clean start. Next couple of paychecks I will get a smexy gpu of course.
 
When you boot the machine and it stops with an error "System Not Found", thats when you are ready to load Windows 7 disk and reboot.
 
Waffe said:
Would this fit on the current mobos posted? And that is a very nice heatsink btw(cheap too). I'll most likely pick this up.
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It should work with any 1155 socket board. Make sure you change your case also because hp cases only have 1 fan.
 
Don
JC713 said:
It should work with any 1155 socket board. Make sure you change your case also because hp cases only have 1 fan.
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Yeah man, I'm purchasing a case with said parts. My current case is waaaay to small. I want a great airflow going on the insides. I just gotta find the right one.
Edit: Wouldn't one fan be enough if its a good one with OC in mind?
 
Waffe said:
Don
Yeah man, I'm purchasing a case with said parts. My current case is waaaay to small. I want a great airflow going on the insides. I just gotta find the right one.
Edit: Wouldn't one fan be enough if its a good one with OC in mind?
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You don't just want a exhaust fan. You want a intake also.
 
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