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Trying to build budget gaming computer w/o bottleneck. Need Insight

By Waffe
Jul 4, 2013
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  1. Waffe

    Waffe TS Enthusiast Topic Starter Posts: 115

    Ah, sorry for the misunderstanding. But yes that is a similar plan to mine. I wanted the new mobo chip setup because of the breathing room for future future upgrades. If that is around 300$ for a base upgrade I say thats worth it in the long run. It seems the 3570k is fairly easy to overclock and cool at that, so it seems like a good start at that point.
     
  2. Waffe

    Waffe TS Enthusiast Topic Starter Posts: 115

    Would the mobo I posted earlier suffice in the long run, or should I spend a bit more for future proofing?
    EDIT: Will this mobo be great if overclocking is one of my options?
     
  3. JC713

    JC713 TS Evangelist Posts: 7,018   +912

    I would not over clock with a hp chassis containing parts. Overheating will become a big issue.
     
  4. hellokitty[hk]

    hellokitty[hk] Hello, nice to meet you! Posts: 4,370   +125

    The "most recent generation" is almost never the most bang for the buck.
     
  5. GhostRyder

    GhostRyder TS Evangelist Posts: 2,260   +541

    Heres what I would do if I were you since you want to go with the 3570k setup. To get a good rig with loads of expandability for later try doing something like this.

    i5 3570k $220
    MSI Z77 Gaming $140 ($130 with a rebate)
    That totals to ~$360 which leaves ~140 for other parts.
    Now depending on where you want to invest this money, you can put it into better CPU cooling and a case but that will be limited based on how much you want to spend.
    For air cooling, I tend to like one of these personally

    CoolerMaster Hyper N 520 $30
    or
    Xigmatek Dark Knight II $50
    Of course there are lots of options, these are just examples of two I have had people use that like them.
    Now on the root of liquid cooling, you have some options, but because your going to need a case, that holds back the ones you can get.

    Corsair H80i $73
    or
    Antec Kuhler H2O 620 $74 (59 with a rebate)
    or
    Corsair Hydro Series H50 $60 (50 with a rebate)

    Then of course we get to the cases, now depending on how much you want to spend above will add room for a nicer case. You will need a case no matter what, so make sure you get one with plenty of room for expandability based on your choices above, heres a few that would fit the budget depending and should work with everything above.

    NZXT Phantom $110
    or
    Thermaltake Commander $40 (30 with a rebate)
    or
    NZXT Apollo $60

    Hope this can help you out, I would try to balance the prices of the case and such to be able to afford a decent case, and better cooler. Maybe focus more on case that cooler because the cooler can also be upgraded later if you want to go higher on overclocking or such.

    @ hellokitty[hk]
    When did I ever say bang for buck? I said Bang as in Power, not bang for buck, if we were going there, its AMD all the way.
     
  6. Waffe

    Waffe TS Enthusiast Topic Starter Posts: 115

    Is this roomy enough?
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=
    I have also been considering(If I had leftovers of course) getting a fresh hard drive SSD and possibly faster RAM.
     
  7. GhostRyder

    GhostRyder TS Evangelist Posts: 2,260   +541

    That case my friend bought and runs in his machine, you should have enough room for most parts. Its a pretty roomy case, the only complaint is a lack of special features. But that case is nice and he loves his computer.
     
  8. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TechSpot Paladin Posts: 6,090   +1,519

  9. Waffe

    Waffe TS Enthusiast Topic Starter Posts: 115

    Also it looks mad nice and has some nice features for a 30$ price tag. I keep going back to that one so I think it's my choice. Just need a highly customizatble mobo. The ones posted are quite nice though. Ill check the budget, maybe slide in those extra parts instead of re-using my old ones. Maybe get a nice heatsink for the cpu.
     
  10. hellokitty[hk]

    hellokitty[hk] Hello, nice to meet you! Posts: 4,370   +125

    Oh you're right, I read your post this time T_T.
    But I can't recommend a Haswell based system for a gaming computer with a budget.
     
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  11. Waffe

    Waffe TS Enthusiast Topic Starter Posts: 115

    When you actually set everything up, when is it appropriate to slam in the win7 disc?
    Also some nice tips of things to avoid and such when putting this thing together(off topic I know).
     
     
  12. JC713

    JC713 TS Evangelist Posts: 7,018   +912

    Just get a hyper 212 Evo. You will probably need new ram also.
     
  13. GhostRyder

    GhostRyder TS Evangelist Posts: 2,260   +541

    In order:
    After you put it together, when you boot it as long as everything looks fine then just slap it in.
    Not really, Put the CPU on the board before you screw the board to the case and then attach it inside the case, just eh usual stuff. The heatsink needs to be attached of course once you mount everything in the case before you attach all the other connectors.
     
  14. Waffe

    Waffe TS Enthusiast Topic Starter Posts: 115

    +++
    Yea I know about the cpu and heatsink and stuff. But when you boot for the first time does the bios launch for configuration of the system? If so, I presume the win7 disc comes after that?
    I might just get a fresh(faster) hard drive with this as well for a clean start. Next couple of paychecks I will get a smexy gpu of course.
     
  15. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TechSpot Paladin Posts: 6,090   +1,519

    When you boot the machine and it stops with an error "System Not Found", thats when you are ready to load Windows 7 disk and reboot.
     
  16. Waffe

    Waffe TS Enthusiast Topic Starter Posts: 115

    Would this fit on the current mobos posted? And that is a very nice heatsink btw(cheap too). I'll most likely pick this up.
     
  17. Waffe

    Waffe TS Enthusiast Topic Starter Posts: 115

    Ah, sounds simple enough.
     
  18. Waffe

    Waffe TS Enthusiast Topic Starter Posts: 115

  19. hellokitty[hk]

    hellokitty[hk] Hello, nice to meet you! Posts: 4,370   +125

    Doesn't matter unless you want the fron USB port.
     
  20. Waffe

    Waffe TS Enthusiast Topic Starter Posts: 115

    Oh, well on the picture of the case it shows 2 front usb's...odd.
     
  21. JC713

    JC713 TS Evangelist Posts: 7,018   +912

    It should work with any 1155 socket board. Make sure you change your case also because hp cases only have 1 fan.
     
  22. Waffe

    Waffe TS Enthusiast Topic Starter Posts: 115

    Don
    Yeah man, I'm purchasing a case with said parts. My current case is waaaay to small. I want a great airflow going on the insides. I just gotta find the right one.
    Edit: Wouldn't one fan be enough if its a good one with OC in mind?
     
  23. JC713

    JC713 TS Evangelist Posts: 7,018   +912

    You don't just want a exhaust fan. You want a intake also.
     
  24. Waffe

    Waffe TS Enthusiast Topic Starter Posts: 115

    Si what ab
    So your saying either get another fan or find a case with more than one fan? Would it really be that much of a difference?
     
  25. Waffe

    Waffe TS Enthusiast Topic Starter Posts: 115



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