used hd

By Prevs
Nov 29, 2006
  1. Does anyone have any idea why its impossible to get hold of cheap second hand harddrives. It amazes me that the second hand ones on ebay and other sites cost the same if not more than new ones. Am I the only one who thinks it doesn't make sense.
  2. Jesse_hz

    Jesse_hz TS Maniac Posts: 545

    If that's true then I'll agree with you that it doesn't make sense, just don't buy them. Hard drives degrade with age.
  3. N3051M

    N3051M TS Evangelist Posts: 2,115

    better a new one with full warranty than one that been in some you-don't-wanna-know..

    Maybe if you look for refurbished drives if you still want second hand..
  4. SNGX1275

    SNGX1275 TS Forces Special Posts: 10,689   +395

  5. Prevs

    Prevs TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 54

    I dont think ill worry about it, I'm looking to raid 0 a couple of sata drives so im not too worried about fault tolerance, but if new is the same price as used I might as well get new.
  6. Tmagic650

    Tmagic650 TS Ambassador Posts: 17,233   +234

    Not necessairly Jesse_hz,
    I have a box full of 40GB or less hard drives. Fugitsu, IBM Deathstars (Deskstar), Maxtor, Western Digital, Samsung and Quantum...

    The Fugitsu and Samsungs are reliable to this day. The Quantum, Maxtor and Western Digitals are junk. The IBM Deathstars are worse than junk
  7. Jesse_hz

    Jesse_hz TS Maniac Posts: 545

    I also have a lot of old hard drives that still seem to work flawlessly, but according to the S.M.A.R.T. statistics they aren't performing like they used to though.

    OK so you took good care of your hard drives and under good conditions HDDs can last for a long time, but not everyone else is as good at taking care of their hard drives.
    IMO people should always be careful when buying any piece of used hardware.
    Yes, Quantum drives are definitely junk!
  8. Tmagic650

    Tmagic650 TS Ambassador Posts: 17,233   +234

    Most of the drives in my box don't support SMART monitoring...
  9. SNGX1275

    SNGX1275 TS Forces Special Posts: 10,689   +395

    What is taking care of them?

    You should just be able to put them in the case and never do anything else with them.

    I hear about putting in the fans in a drive bay and mounting the hard drive so it has airflow all around it, rubber cushioners and such, I think that is asking too much. The drives don't have any instructions telling you to do that, so I don't think we as consumers should have to do that to prevent a drive from failing.

    I've had hard drives die on me and I don't think I've treated them any differently from the drives that haven't failed.
  10. Tmagic650

    Tmagic650 TS Ambassador Posts: 17,233   +234

    A low-level format (writing all 0's) can rejuvenate some hard drives. As far as "taking care of them", all you can do is not drop or mishandle them. With today's hi-capacity drives, keeping them cool is a good way to take care of them
  11. Tedster

    Tedster Techspot old timer..... Posts: 6,000   +15

    I seem to remember there are programs out there to exercise and rejuvenate old or failing drives. They're not 100% reliable, but they do "re-magenize" the platters through forced writing.... kind of like what you said about writing 0s, but it does it repeatedly.
  12. Tmagic650

    Tmagic650 TS Ambassador Posts: 17,233   +234

    Yes Tedster,
    in the old days a low level format could only be done by the manufacturer. Writing all 0's or 1's tends to remagnetize the platters. I have done this to many older drives that consistantly showed read or write errors. Somtimes it works, other times it doesn't. Bad drive electronics or mechanics is another story
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