Video Card Help

By FaithlessX
Oct 20, 2007
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  1. hi..i am new here in tis forum..i am a comp noob too..recently i had change my motherboard..and tis motherboard come wif a Intel(r) 82865G Graphic Controller

    tis is my motherboard
    http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=P4I65G&s=

    heres mine comp spec
    Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) (2600.xpclient.010817-1148)
    Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
    System Manufacturer: P4i6G
    System Model: P4i65G
    BIOS: Default System BIOS
    Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz (2 CPUs), ~3.2GHz
    Memory: 502MB RAM
    Page File: 296MB used, 933MB available
    Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
    DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
    DX Setup Parameters: Not found
    DxDiag Version: 5.03.0001.0904 32bit Unicode

    Display Devices
    ---------------
    Card name: Intel(R) 82865G Graphics Controller
    Manufacturer: Intel Corporation
    Chip type: Intel(R) 82865G Graphics Controller
    DAC type: Internal
    Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2572&SUBSYS_25721849&REV_02
    Display Memory: 96.0 MB
    Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (75Hz)
    Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
    Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
    Driver Name: ialmrnt5.dll
    Driver Version: 6.14.0010.4396 (English)
    DDI Version: 9 (or higher)

    could anyone tell me is my motherboard is AGP or PCI-E?..
    and is ATI Sapphire X1650 PRO 256MB and EVGA GF 7600GS 256MB suitable for my comp?..and is tis 2 graphic card better den Radeon 9250 GeForce Ti

    nid help on changing graphic cards too..
    help appreciated..=)..thx alots..
  2. kpo6969

    kpo6969 TechSpot Maniac Posts: 875

    AGP
    Card choice depends on your power supply.
    List any info you have, ie: wattage, amps, make, model
  3. FaithlessX

    FaithlessX Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 31

    i am sorry..but how do see de wattage,amps,make and model?
  4. zipperman

    zipperman Newcomer, in training Posts: 1,423   +7

  5. FaithlessX

    FaithlessX Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 31

    damn..my motherboard was change by some other guys..i do nt have de detail..
    i wanted to get tis X1650 PRO too..but its hard to find..
    btw is ATI POWER COLOUR X1650 PRO same as Radeon™ X1650 PRO?
  6. zipperman

    zipperman Newcomer, in training Posts: 1,423   +7

    Please post your location.I have no shopping problems in
    Eastern Canada.
    btw is ATI POWER COLOUR X1650 PRO same as Radeon™ X1650 PRO?

    ATI.com should have a comparison option.I don't recall seeing POWER COLOR.makeing my decision.
    Post it's link.
  7. FaithlessX

    FaithlessX Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 31

    i live in singapore..
  8. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 7,280   +23

    Eh? Why is that? Do they not have the same GPU? It's just dumb to pay more for a 'genuine' ATI card when Sapphire's version is exactly the same card and costs lesser. Do your research please.

    @FaithlessX, open up your PC case and there should be a sticker on your PSU (Power Supply Unit). It should look something like this. Post a picture of it or type out it's specs, including the brand name. New video cards will need a good source of power and if your current PSU isn't able to provide that, then it'll most likely blow and take other components with it if it does so.
    Also, PowerColor is a good brand, as are Sapphire, HIS Hightech, GeCube and GigaByte.
  9. zipperman

    zipperman Newcomer, in training Posts: 1,423   +7

    Thats my opinion

    And MY answer to the posted question.From my experience with a
    Radion Saphire 9600.
    You comment was unnecessary.Post your recomendation.
    :rolleyes:
  10. FaithlessX

    FaithlessX Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 31

    thx..heres mine
    Ac Input: 100-127/220-240v~7/3.5A 60/50 HZ
    Dc Output: +5v-/20A MAX-12v-o.5A Max +12v1-10A Max
    tats all i could get..
  11. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 7,280   +23

    Of course it was necessary. One bad experience with a company doesn't mean they're bad. I've had one-time bad experiences with all companies, including OCZ, and I've always found them pretty good second time around. That is why I posted the thing about doing your research. You should try to know what third-party brands sell ATI video cards so you can recommend them to others. If you had known about PowerColor, then you would have also known of other brands like HIS and GeCube, and how ATI-branded video cards are more expensive than these others. I'm not trying to stomp on you or anything, but please recommend stuff that will genuinely help the OP, rather than having them waste more money than needed.

    And about the recommendation, I'm going to give one based on his PSU, which seems to be rather weak. @FaithlessX, isn't there a +12V2 rating? 'Coz 10A is very low. In any case, how much can you afford to spend? And where are you going to buy from? I didn't find any Singapore-based hardware sites. You can buy from Directron though but you'll need to pay by check or wire transfer. Are you okay with that?
     
  12. FaithlessX

    FaithlessX Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 31

    dere isn't a +12V2 rating but dere is a line tat rite +12v2-13A Max..i wanted to buy PowerColour ATI X1650 PRO 256MB DDR3 from simlim Square its cost S$139..i wonder if my comp could take it?
    thx for the help guys..=)
  13. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 7,280   +23

    No your PSU is inadequate and will probably blow if you tried to run the card on it. Get a new 450-500W PSU from Antec, Thermaltake, OCZ, Enermax, CoolerMaster, Corsair, Silverstone, Fortron FSP or PC Power & Cooling and you'll be able to run the card fine.
  14. FaithlessX

    FaithlessX Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 31

    omg..wat is PSU?
  15. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 7,280   +23

    PSU = Power Supply Unit. :)
  16. FaithlessX

    FaithlessX Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 31

    oh..oki..thx..=)
  17. zipperman

    zipperman Newcomer, in training Posts: 1,423   +7

  18. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 7,280   +23

    Umm zipperman, do Canada Computers ship to Singapore? =S
     
  19. FaithlessX

    FaithlessX Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 31

    erm..oki..so lets say i hav change my PSU and bought my graphic card..how do i set it so tat my graphic card can be use?..do i nid to change anything on my motherboard or do i just have to disable my intergrated graphic controller on control panel?
  20. zipperman

    zipperman Newcomer, in training Posts: 1,423   +7

    No

    But as you see i got a 512MB for less.He did quote $139's. for a 256MB.
    So thats not Singapore money to compare.
    Quote :
    ATI-branded video cards are more expensive than these others.
    Are you still sure they are
    Heres what i got.So FaithlessX has to shop around like i did.
    ***
    ATI X1650 PRO *** 256MB *** DDR3 from simlim Square its cost S$139..i wonder if my comp could take it?
    $115.99 reg,special sale i bought for $109.22 Canadian
    ATI Radeon X1650 *** 512MB *** DDR2
    My mbd manual said it would take it.:D
    Witch is better DDR3 or 512MB ?
    I didn't see DDR3 at ATI.Is that a typing error FaithlessX ?
    :D
    I recommend 512.
  21. zipperman

    zipperman Newcomer, in training Posts: 1,423   +7

  22. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 7,280   +23

    @zipperman, this link tells you how much an ATi-branded X1650PRO costs compared to one from Sapphire or PowerColor. You bought yours very expensive methinks.

    As for your link, I think they wouldn't but even if they did, I don't think they'd accept a credit card issued outside the USA, so he'd have to pay by wire transfer or check then.
  23. FaithlessX

    FaithlessX Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 31

  24. zipperman

    zipperman Newcomer, in training Posts: 1,423   +7

    Read page 1 again

    I paid $ 109.22 CDN.Lowest i saw was $115.00.
    And i didn't need to use Land Mail and pay the cost.Just a short drive from home to Canada Computers.
    BTW it wasn't OEM.Complete boxed set.Manual and driver cd.
    Besides ATI being not far from where i live for return.
  25. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 7,280   +23

    I meant the NCIX link, not the PriceGrabber one (which I posted by mistake, I'll remove it now). There, the lowest price for an X1650PRO is about CAD 78 for a 512MB version.
    @FaithlessX, that PowerColor card is okay, but you'll need a new PSU as I stated. Which one are you going to get?
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