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Video Card Recommendation (FX5900 Vs ATI9600Pro)

By h_pavon
Nov 13, 2003
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  1. I'm in pretty much a dilemma.....

    I've read in Digit-Life articles the ranking of the video cards, High end, low end, etc.....

    I'm a hardcore gamer and want to upgrade my video card (Palit FX5600 256mb - 325/550)...... don't want to spend over $200.00 (I've already pushed my limits and can't go over that) and the options are:

    Leadtek Winfast A350 TDH-LX (FX5900 128mb 2.8ns).... $204.00 at newegg
    ATI 9600Pro 128mb (400/600)................................... $166.00 at buyxg

    The article place the ATI 9600Pro above all the FX5900 and the ATI9500Pro in the High end and mid end user chart, but in the other ones is below the FX5900 and some FX5600...... on the other hand I've read many, almost all reviews about the ATI9600Pro and in most of them the video card is highly criticized because of poor performance against FX5900, FX5600 and ATI9500Pro............ could this be a antique driver issue, solved with new driver upgrades in Digit-Life reviews???.... I'm not that familiar with Catalyst drivers!

    Please help me on this corncern, recomendations will be accepted and appreciated...
    Thanx in advance.

    My system is:
    Abit NF7 V.2
    AMD XP2700+
    Kingston 512mb (333)
    Soundblaster Audigy 2
    WD 80gb HD (7200)
    Leadtek Winfast TV-tuner
    350W Power supply
  2. Greeno

    Greeno Newcomer, in training Posts: 394

    get the 9600Pro or wait for the XT
  3. JackieChanIsGOD

    JackieChanIsGOD Newcomer, in training Posts: 83

    9600XT.......


    better.



    HL2 free...

    :D Betterest.
  4. NoisySilence

    NoisySilence Newcomer, in training Posts: 184

    Are you sure it's a FX5900 ?

    The FX5900 is a high-end card, I doubt you would find it for 200$ on newegg.

    *EDIT* The prices on newegg are indeed around 200$. What's the main difference between that fx5900 & the fx5900 Utra ? If it's only clocked a little bit slower, I think the fx5900 is the best card for that price.

    I can't seem to find reviews on it though.:(
  5. acidosmosis

    acidosmosis TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 1,574

    It all depends on what application your running that is using that video card. Some will run better than others with a specific card.
  6. h_pavon

    h_pavon Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 91

    After hours of researching and reading, for $200.00 I can get my hands in one of these contenders:

    Leadtek Winfast A350 TDH-LX Geforce FX5900 128mb (2.8ns)
    BFG Geforce FX5700 Ultra 128mb
    ATI 9800TX 128mb

    the 9800XT and FX5700 Ultra are head to head in performance, but don't know if any of this will perform better than the FX5900 non ultra...... still want to get the best I can get for $200.00, what can you say about this???
  7. Didou

    Didou Bowtie extraordinair! Posts: 5,899

    The 9800XT is ATI's flagship card right now. You say you found it for around 200$ ? If that's the case, it's either a refurbished card or a version of the card with slower components ( Ram and/or GPU ).

    & what's that FX5900 ? Can you provide any links to reviews from that card ?

    I'd say your best bet around 200$, would be either the FX5700 Ultra or the 9600XT.

    PS. When searching for 9800XT on newegg, all I got for a bunch of 9800XT (256mb) cards with an average price of 450$. There was one by Sapphire for 345$, but it was refurbished.
  8. schizoid77

    schizoid77 Newcomer, in training Posts: 124

    h_pavon! I just upgraded from a PNY 5600 256mb to the BFG GFX 5700 Ultra...the difference is astounding...running at 492/942 oc'd a bit from default.
    For $200, it's either the 9600XT or the BFG 5700....I'd say go with the BFG 5700 cuz it got great reviews at Bjorn3d.com and apparently you can overclock the hell out of it...
  9. h_pavon

    h_pavon Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 91

    My bad Didou the card I meant for $200 was the 9600XT.........

    Guys!, check this review..... the FX5700 is not included but we all know it's head to head with ATI9600 XT which it is included....

    http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/digest3d/index.html

    The FX5900 128mb (2.8ns) is above the 9600XT in FPS of all games charts.....
  10. Didou

    Didou Bowtie extraordinair! Posts: 5,899

    I think I got it figured out.

    The FX5900 that you're referring to is the FX5900LX.

    It's a clocked down version of the FX5900 : the core/mem runs at 390/350 instead of 400/425 ( non-Ultra ).

    I can't find reviews on it, so I have no idea how it performs compared to the 5700 Ultra. If you say it's above the 9600XT, then by all means, get that one.
  11. h_pavon

    h_pavon Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 91

    Yes I mean the FX5900-LX 128mb 400/700 (2.8ns)......

    The FX5600-LX beats the 9600XT in all but one game.... Half Life 2, the 9600XT offers more FPS....... upcoming games like Doom3, STALKER, and HL2 are the reason we look for this kind of video card......... now I'm really undecided!

    Suggestios are very welcome...........
     
  12. h_pavon

    h_pavon Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 91

    sorry guys I meant........ The FX5900-LX beats the 9600XT in all but one game.........
  13. schizoid77

    schizoid77 Newcomer, in training Posts: 124

  14. h_pavon

    h_pavon Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 91

    Read that article yesterday, the FX5700 Ultra from BFG looks very tempting......... its main competitor is the 9600TX not the FX5900
  15. Steg

    Steg Newcomer, in training Posts: 422

    if you want my opinion - buy yourself the FX5700 Ultra - its faster when it comes to AA and AF due to higher memory bandwidth - that the 9600XT - and the 9600XT and 5700 Ultra are about equal when it comes to games performance
    they both come out as $200 or less - so its your preference ATi or nVidia?

    Steg
  16. PreservedSwine

    PreservedSwine Newcomer, in training Posts: 375

    The FX5900 is far superior in DX8 titles, but in DX9 app's The R9600XT is better. ATI has signifigantly nicer looking FSAA.

    If your'e playing mostly DX8 titles, the FX5900 for $200 is a great deal. It is faster than the 9600XT.

    But the 9600XT is better for DX9 app's........

    Both are excellent choices for that price range, you can't go wrong:)
  17. h_pavon

    h_pavon Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 91

    I'm looking for something than can keeps me satisfied with todays and upcoming games........ Half Life 2 runs better with ATI simply because they bought the franchise and the game comes bundled........... until new benchmarks with other Dx9 games regarding the 9600XT and FX5900 cards, there's nothing to say about how they perform.........

    I'm still very much undecided, suggestions are very welcome.....
  18. Didou

    Didou Bowtie extraordinair! Posts: 5,899

    I don't think HL2 runs better on ATI cards only because ATI has made a "bundle deal" with Valve ( they haven't bought the franchise... ).

    It's in Valve's best interest that the game runs well on the widest array of hardware so I think they're trying hard to get good performance for FX cards as well.

    I think everyone did a few suggestions, from there on, you're the only one who has to decide ( unless you're willing to wait for other cards to be released ).

    *cough*Volari*cough* ;)
  19. PreservedSwine

    PreservedSwine Newcomer, in training Posts: 375

    There are plenty of DX9 benches available, and games too, TODAY. There has been quite a bit of research into why the "FX" series is not up to par, most agree they don't have enough registers as well as poor P.S. perfromance. HL2 runs better w/ ATI not b/c ATI "bought the franchise," but because HL2 is a DX9 app, and EVERY DX9 app will run better w/ ATI. Even John Carmack (ID's DOOM3 creator)agrees, saying that the results you see in HL2 benches are representative of what you will see in ALL DX9 applications.....
  20. Steg

    Steg Newcomer, in training Posts: 422

    it is believed the ATi cards run DX9 apps faster because ATi developed DX9 along with Microsoft.
    nVidia has no part - or at least a much smaller part in the development

    the new forceware drivers have started to close the nvidia-ati PS2 gap (dont use mark03 as reference - look at halo benchmarks etc) and the next drivers revision promises yet more PS2 improvements - i still recommend the 5700 Ultra

    Steg

    p.s. or even - if ur willing to wait - wait a have a look at how the nv40s performs - the rumors shows some VERY interesting specs
  21. felixml

    felixml Newcomer, in training

    Which is better...

    I have both, PNY 5700 Ultra and Leadtek Vivo, paid $220 for Leadtek A350 128MB and $170 for PNY,

    because of overclocking software, not from Leadtek (does not work, checked with techies there, working to fix!), but detonators.net does improve the specs, I am getting 425/964,
    I prefer Leadtek card on my Sony 24 inch CRT at 2048 by 1536 at 75Hz.
    My biggest problem is I can't find a card that goes higher...

    9600XT is practically identical to 5700 Ultra, nobody I talked to sees any difference.

    My feeling on future-released games base on all I read lately, ATI must have some additional speed advantages, but today buy what is cheaper and DO NOT pay for 5950 Ultra or 9800 XT
  22. DaveSylvia

    DaveSylvia Newcomer, in training Posts: 127

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