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Video Card Upgrade

By ballaboo
Apr 7, 2007
  1. i recently have been looking into getting a better video card to aid with WoW. the one i have now is what came with my computer, and im sure its not very good. The mother board i have now doesnt have a pci-e slot, only 3 pci slots. ive heard video cards that use a pci-e slot are the best. i was wondering if it would be worth my while to buy a new mother board which has a pci-e slot so i could get a video card that uses a pci-e slot.

    i really need help with this.
     
  2. beef_jerky4104

    beef_jerky4104 Banned Posts: 1,094

    For gaming getting PCIe is the best choice. So yes its worth getting a new motherboard.
     
  3. cfitzarl

    cfitzarl TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,520   +9

    Welcome to Techspot :wave: ! Look at my guide in my signature and post in the specified format please!
     
  4. MoMo1988

    MoMo1988 TS Rookie Posts: 93

    PCI-E is the best way to go for gaming. Well worth spending the money
     
  5. ballaboo

    ballaboo TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 21

    will do.....
     
  6. Rickman45

    Rickman45 TS Rookie Posts: 22

    Hey here is some things to consider, do you have a AGP slot? plain pci graphic cards are nearly exstinct , there are some major things to consider like, if you want a PCIe x16 video card you will need to look at the size of your power suppy, I would have a 400 watt psu as a minimum, and at least
    18 amps on the power rail of the psu as a minimum, also what size of CPU
    you have now? if you go Dual Core " Intel or AMD" does not matter only to your preference! , if you go dual core I would suggest a CPU 2.0ghz as a minimum and 2.4ghz in a single core CPU! and mostly likely at least
    1 gig of ram!
    I would think about buying a Bare Bones Computer and upgrade from there that way you can add hardware slowly and build up to a more practical system! there is some nice deals out there so research and shop around!
    Good Luck!
    Rickman45
     
  7. ballaboo

    ballaboo TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 21

    1. mostly play WoW

    2. around $250

    3. +12V/14A

    4.

    Number of processors 1
    Number of cores 1 per processor
    Number of threads 1 (max 1) per processor
    Name Intel Celeron
    Code Name Northwood
    Specification Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.60GHz
    Package Socket 478 mPGA
    Family/Model/Stepping F.2.9
    Extended Family/Model F.2
    Brand ID 10
    Core Stepping D1
    Technology 0.13 um
    Core Speed 2600.0 MHz
    Multiplier x Bus speed 26.0 x 100.0 MHz
    Rated Bus speed 400.0 MHz
    Stock frequency 2600 MHz
    Instruction sets MMX, SSE, SSE2
    L1 Data cache 8 KBytes, 4-way set associative, 64-byte line size
    Trace cache 12 Kuops, 8-way set associative
    L2 cache 128 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64-byte line size
    Chipset & Memory
    Northbridge Intel i845G rev. B1
    Southbridge Intel 82801DB (ICH4) rev. 02
    Memory Type DDR
    Memory Size 768 MBytes
    Memory Frequency 133.3 MHz (3:4)
    CAS# Latency (tCL) 2.0 clocks
    RAS# to CAS# (tRDC) 3 clocks
    RAS# Precharge (tRP) 3 clocks
    Cycle Time (tRAS) 6 clocks
    System
    System Manufacturer HP Pavilion 061
    System Name D7222W-ABA A500Y
    System S/N MXP418010N NA500
    Mainboard Vendor MICRO-STAR INTERNATIONAL CO., LTD
    Mainboard Model Gamila/Giovani/Neon series
    BIOS Vendor Phoenix Technologies, LTD
    BIOS Version 3.06
    BIOS Date 12/31/2003
    Memory SPD
    Module 1 DDR, PC2700 (166 MHz), 256 MBytes, Hyundai Electronics
    Module 2 DDR, PC3200 (200 MHz), 512 MBytes, Kingston
    Software
    Windows Version Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
    DirectX Version 9.0c


    5. U.S.

    hope this is all!
     
  8. ballaboo

    ballaboo TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 21

    i plan on getting a new motherboard with a pci-e slot

    also plan on getting another stick of 512 ram

    not sure about PSU though
     
  9. cfitzarl

    cfitzarl TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,520   +9

    You need a new PSU for another video card. I can tell you that right now.....14A on the +12V Rail won't cut it if you know what I mean :( . Tell us your budget, so we can help you pick out the proper parts :) .
     
  10. ballaboo

    ballaboo TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 21

    this is something im going to be working on over time, so i should start out with a new PSU first? what is a good number to be looking for?
     
  11. ballaboo

    ballaboo TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 21

    im not really looking for the best stuff i can get, more of just what i need to run WoW with no problems whatsoever
     
     
  12. Computer~freak~

    Computer~freak~ TS Rookie Posts: 206

    Get a new motherboard and a processor like even a pentium D and wow should run fine and if you buy like a ati radeon x1300 or nvidia 7600 wow would run nicely
     
  13. ballaboo

    ballaboo TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 21

    Number of processors 1
    Number of cores 1 per processor
    Number of threads 1 (max 1) per processor
    Name Intel Celeron
    Code Name Northwood
    Specification Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.60GHz
    Package Socket 478 mPGA
    Family/Model/Stepping F.2.9
    Extended Family/Model F.2
    Brand ID 10
    Core Stepping D1
    Technology 0.13 um
    Core Speed 2600.0 MHz
    Multiplier x Bus speed 26.0 x 100.0 MHz
    Rated Bus speed 400.0 MHz
    Stock frequency 2600 MHz
    Instruction sets MMX, SSE, SSE2
    L1 Data cache 8 KBytes, 4-way set associative, 64-byte line size
    Trace cache 12 Kuops, 8-way set associative
    L2 cache 128 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64-byte line size
    Chipset & Memory
    Northbridge Intel i845G rev. B1
    Southbridge Intel 82801DB (ICH4) rev. 02
    Memory Type DDR
    Memory Size 768 MBytes
    Memory Frequency 133.3 MHz (3:4)
    CAS# Latency (tCL) 2.0 clocks
    RAS# to CAS# (tRDC) 3 clocks
    RAS# Precharge (tRP) 3 clocks
    Cycle Time (tRAS) 6 clocks
    System
    System Manufacturer HP Pavilion 061
    System Name D7222W-ABA A500Y
    System S/N MXP418010N NA500
    Mainboard Vendor MICRO-STAR INTERNATIONAL CO., LTD
    Mainboard Model Gamila/Giovani/Neon series
    BIOS Vendor Phoenix Technologies, LTD
    BIOS Version 3.06
    BIOS Date 12/31/2003
    Memory SPD
    Module 1 DDR, PC2700 (166 MHz), 256 MBytes, Hyundai Electronics
    Module 2 DDR, PC3200 (200 MHz), 512 MBytes, Kingston
    Software
    Windows Version Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
    DirectX Version 9.0c
     
  14. Computer~freak~

    Computer~freak~ TS Rookie Posts: 206

    Get a new motherboard and a processor like even a pentium D and if you buy like a ati radeon x1300 or nvidia 7600 WoW will run good
     
  15. ballaboo

    ballaboo TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 21

    any suggestions for motherboards and pricing for that and a processor?
     
  16. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 7,290   +25

    PCI cards are the worst of the lot when it comes to gaming, but for WoW, I think this would be enough without needing to spend too much to upgrade, if WoW is the only game you're gonna play. Read through the customer reviews of that card, one or two say it runs fine with WoW.
     
  17. Computer~freak~

    Computer~freak~ TS Rookie Posts: 206

    im guessin you want the most performance and still stay in a nice budget so..
    a good motherboard is:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128012 (best bang for your buck!)
    CPU:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116262 (its a fine dual core)
    or you can go straight to a core 2 duo CPU:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115005 (if you have the $$) also you will need DDR2 Memory so id just get:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227006 in total your lookin at about $378 US without tax <---thats with the core 2 duo processor (the better dual core) and with the Pentium d your looking at $332 US with the lower dual core (pentium d)
     
  18. Computer~freak~

    Computer~freak~ TS Rookie Posts: 206

  19. ballaboo

    ballaboo TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 21

    2 other forums i posted on suggested getting a whole new computer....but my gaming is limited to only wow...and i really dont think i need a whole new computer for the time i spend playing games. ( a few hours a day, if that) They said buying/building a new computer would cost the same as getting a new motherboard, cpu, and graphics card.

    would buying/building a new computer be more beneficial than just upgrading the motherboard, cpu, and graphics card?
     
  20. cfitzarl

    cfitzarl TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,520   +9

    The only reason we are saying this is becuase of your lack of AGP or PCIe slots mixed with your Celeron CPU.
     
  21. Computer~freak~

    Computer~freak~ TS Rookie Posts: 206

    it would be better to just upgrade your computer with the things i suggested becuase really it would be like a whole new computer. (performance wise) without the big cost of buying a new computer
    and you dont have to buy a new case..ect.
     
  22. ballaboo

    ballaboo TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 21

    i agree...thanks alot for the help
     
  23. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 7,290   +25

    I still say that you don't need all those upgrades for WoW. It's not a very graphically-intensive game at all. And if you spend only a few hours per day gaming, the card I suggested before will be more than enough. I wouldn't like you to spend all the money for that hardware when it's not going to be used to its full potential.
    The Celeron is not a bad CPU for WoW specifically so no need to upgrade that at all. You just need to get more RAM and you'll be set. That FX5200 PCI may look like a poor one but has a 128-bit wide bus so performance will be above average at least.
     
  24. ballaboo

    ballaboo TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 21

    can you hook me up with a link to the exact video card you are talking about

    greatly appreciated..
     
  25. foozy

    foozy TS Rookie Posts: 267

    You're going to have to upgrade someday, the question you just have to ask yourself is "how much money am I willing to put into old technology before I decide to invest in a newer rig?".

    I don't think you're at the point of a total system upgrade yet - if you're prepared to deal with gaming at lower settings. I'd start saving for one now, but for now I think some RAM and perhaps a new PCI video card would work fine.

    That being said...if I were you, I'd just give in and upgrade the core system. You don't need to shell out ten grand for a quad-cpu quintuple-core triple-SLI rig, but $200 or $300 should do the job nicely - and give you plenty of room for future upgrades.
     
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