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Video Out is Black And White

By buffdaddy110
Nov 2, 2002
  1. I have a leadtek Ti 4400 with video out. When i run my s-video cable from the computer to the tv everything comes in black and white. I've upgraded to the most recent driver and same problem. I'm out of ideas and want to know if anyone has seen this problem, or has an idea on how to fix it.:dead: :blackeye:
     
  2. SNGX1275

    SNGX1275 TS Forces Special Posts: 10,714   +397

    Can you try with a different cable? Don't know if thats it though - I once had a bad cable and it caused the picture to be garbled and run diagonal across the screen.
     
  3. Nodsu

    Nodsu TS Rookie Posts: 5,837   +6

    Make sure that PAL/SECAM/NTSC setting in the TV-out settings matches the one the TV set is using.
     
  4. buffdaddy110

    buffdaddy110 TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 28

    How do I know what the tv set is using?
     
  5. Mictlantecuhtli

    Mictlantecuhtli TS Evangelist Posts: 4,345   +11

    ABU DHABI - PAL
    AFGHANISTAN - PAL
    AJMAN - PAL ALBANIA - PAL
    ALGERIA - PAL
    ANDORRA - PAL
    ANTIGUA - NTSC
    ANTILLES, NETHERLANDS - NTSC
    ARGENTINA - PAL-N
    ARUBA - NTSC
    AUSTRALIA - PAL
    AUSTRIA - PAL
    AZORES - PAL NTSC
    BAHAMAS - NTSC
    BAHRAIN - PAL
    BANGLADESH - PAL
    BARBADOS - NTSC
    BELAU - NTSC
    BELGIUM - PAL
    BELIZE - NTSC
    BENIN - SECAM BERMUDA - NTSC
    BOLIVIA - NTSC
    BOPHUTHATSWANA - PAL
    BOTSWANA - PAL I
    BRAZIL - PAL M
    BRITISH VIRGIN ISLANDS - NTSC
    BRUNEI - PAL
    BULGARIA - SECAM V
    BURKINA FASO - SECAM
    BURMA - NTSC
    BURUNDI - SECAM
    CAMBODIA (KAMPUCHEA) - PAL
    CAMEROON - PAL
    CANADA - NTSC
    CANARY ISLANDS - PAL
    CAYMAN ISLANDS - NTSC
    CENTRAL AFRICAN REP. - SECAM
    CHAD - SECAM
    CHANNEL ISLANDS - PAL
    CHILE - NTSC
    CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC - PAL
    CHINA, TAIWAN - NTSC
    CISKEI - PAL COLOMBIA - NTSC
    CONGO - SECAM V
    COSTA RICA - NTSC
    CUBA - NTSC
    CURAƇAO - NTSC
    CYPRUS - PAL
    CZECHOSLOVAKIA - SECAM V
    DENMARK - PAL
    DIEGO GARCIA - NTSC
    DJIBOUTI - SECAM V
    DOMINICAN REPUBLIC - NTSC
    DUBAI - PAL
    ECUADOR - NTSC
    EGYPT - PAL
    EL SALVADOR - NTSC
    EQUATORIAL GUINEA - SECAM
    ETHIOPIA - PAL
    FALKLAND ISLANDS - PAL
    FAROE ISLANDS - PAL
    FIJI - NTSC
    FINLAND - PAL
    FRANCE - SECAM V
    FRENCH POLYNESIA - SECAM H
    FUJAIRAH - PAL
    GABON - SECAM
    GALAPAGOS ISLANDS - NTSC
    GERMANY - SECAM (OLD) PAL(NEW)
    GHANA - PAL
    GIBRALTAR - PAL GRANADA - NTSC
    GREECE - SECAM H
    GREENLAND - PAL
    GREENLAND (US FORCES)- NTSC
    GUADELOUPE - SECAM V GUAM - NTSC
    GUATEMALA - NTSC
    GUINEA REPUBLIC - PAL
    GUYANA (French) - SECAM V
    GUYANA REPUBLIC - NTSC
    HAITI - SECAM V
    HONDURAS - NTSC
    HONG KONG - PAL
    HUNGARY - PAL
    ICELAND - PAL
    INDIA - VARIOUS, MOSTLY PAL
    INDONESIA - PAL
    IRAN - SECAM H
    IRAQ - SECAM H
    IRELAND - PAL
    ISRAEL - PAL
    ITALY - PAL
    IVORY COAST - SECAM V
    JAMAICA - NTSC
    JAPAN - NTSC
    JIBUTI - SECAM V
    JOHNSTON ATOLL ISLAND - NTSC
    JORDAN - PAL
    KENYA - PAL
    KOREA, NORTH - SECAM V NTSC
    KOREA, SOUTH - NTSC
    KUWAIT - PAL
    LAOS REPUBLIC - PAL-M
    LAOS - SECAM V
    LEBANON - SECAM V
    LEEWARD ISLANDS - NTSC
    LESOTHO - PAL
    LIBERIA - PAL
    LIBYA - PAL
    LIECHTENSTEIN - PAL SECAM V
    LUXEMBOURG - PAL SECAM
    MACAU - PAL
    MADAGASCAR - SECAM V
    MADEIRA - PAL
    MALAYSIA - PAL
    MALDIVES - PAL
    MALI - SECAM
    MALTA - PAL
    MARIANA ISLANDS - NTSC
    MARTINIQUE - SECAM V
    MAURITANIA - SECAM H
    MAURITIUS - SECAM
    MAYOTTE - SECAM
    MEXICO - NTSC
    MICRONESIA - NTSC
    MIDWAY ISLAND - NTSC
    MONACO - PAL SECAM V
    MONGOLIA - SECAM
    MONTENEGRO - PAL
    MONTSERRAT - NTSC
    MOROCCO - SECAM V
    MOZAMBIQUE - PAL
    NAMIBIA - PAL
    NEPAL - PAL
    NETHERLANDS - PAL
    NETHERLANDS ANTILLES - NTSC
    NEW CALEDONIA - SECAM V
    NEW GUINEA, PAPUA - PAL
    NEW ZEALAND - PAL
    NICARAGUA - NTSC
    NIGER - SECAM V
    NIGERIA - PAL
    NORWAY - PAL
    OKINAWA (JAPAN, US FORCES) - NTSC
    OMAN - PAL
    PAKISTAN - PAL
    PANAMA - NTSC
    PARAGUAY - PAL-N
    PERU - NTSC PHILIPPINES - NTSC
    POLAND - PAL
    POLYNESIA, FRENCH - SECAM H
    PONAPE - NTSC
    PORTUGAL - PAL
    PUERTO RICO (USA) - NTSC
    QATAR - PAL
    RAS AL-KHAIMAH - PAL
    REUNION ISLAND - SECAM V
    ROMANIA - PAL
    SABA ISLAND - NTSC
    SABAH & SARAWAK - PAL
    SAIPAN - NTSC
    SAMOA - NTSC
    SAN ANDREAS ISLANDS - NTSC
    SAN MARINO - PAL
    SAO TOME & PRINCIPE - PAL
    SAUDI ARABIA - SECAM H
    SAUDI ARABIA (ARAMCO) - PAL
    SENEGAL - SECAM V
    SERBIA - PAL
    SEYCHELLES - PAL
    SHARJAH - PAL
    SIERRA LEONE - PAL
    SINGAPORE - PAL
    SOCIETY ISLANDS - SECAM H
    SOMALIA - PAL
    SOUTH AFRICA - PAL I
    SOVIET REPUBLICS - SECAM
    SPAIN - PAL
    SRI LANKA - PAL
    ST. CROIX - NTSC
    ST. JOHN - NTSC
    ST. KITTS & NEVIS - NTSC
    ST. MAARTEN - NTSC
    ST. PIERRE & MIQUELON - SECAM V
    ST. THOMAS - NTSC
    SUDAN - PAL
    SURINAME - NTSC
    SWAZILAND - PAL
    SWEDEN - PAL
    SWITZERLAND - PAL
    SYRIA - PAL (SECAM H?)
    TAHITI (Fr. Poly) - SECAM H
    TAIWAN - NTSC
    TANZANIA - PAL
    THAILAND - PAL
    TIBET (CHINA)- PAL
    TOGO - SECAM V
    TORTOLA (Br. Virgin Islands) - NTSC
    TRANSKEI - PAL
    TRINIDAD & TOBAGO - NTSC
    TRUST ISLANDS OF THE PACIFIC - NTSC
    TUNISIA - SECAM V
    TURKEY - PAL
    UGANDA - PAL
    UNITED ARAB EMIRATES - PAL
    UNITED KINGDOM - PAL
    UMM AL-QUWAIN - PAL
    UPPER VOLTA - SECAM V
    URUGUAY - PAL-N
    US VIRGIN ISLANDS - NTSC
    USA - NTSC
    USSR (SOVIET REPUBLICS) - SECAM
    VATICAN - PAL
    VENDA - PAL
    VENEZUELA - NTSC
    VIETNAM SECAM NTSC
    VIRGIN ISLANDS - NTSC
    YEMEN ARAB REPUBLIC - PAL NTSC
    YUGOSLAVIA - PAL
    ZAIRE - SECAM V
    ZAMBIA - PAL
    ZIMBABWE - PAL
     
  6. buffdaddy110

    buffdaddy110 TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 28

    I thought thats what you meant and the answer is yes. Also the cable is the same one I use from satellite to the tv and it works just fine.
     
  7. RustyZip

    RustyZip TechSpot Paladin Posts: 322

    Hey Mict'....

    I hope thats a copy & paste job:p phew.....
     
  8. Nodsu

    Nodsu TS Rookie Posts: 5,837   +6

    What software are you using? The Device Settings tab that comes with the drivers?

    Try TVTool , you'll find a link to TVCC too. Both of them have some extra features and are much better than the software that comes with the drivers. No TwinView though :(

    Maybe you have to switch to a lower resolution?

    Try switching manually between Composite/S-Video/Automatic signals. Does your TV support S-Video/Composite. Some Leadtek cards support only S-Video

    Some people have solved the problem just applying the TV-out settings again after first activation.
     
  9. Mictlantecuhtli

    Mictlantecuhtli TS Evangelist Posts: 4,345   +11

    Yeah, the table is from http://www.vidpro.org/standards.htm
    Forgot to mention it.
    :)
     
  10. StormBringer

    StormBringer TS Rookie Posts: 2,244

    Are you using a converter to link the card's S-Video out to the TV? Or does the TV have an S-Video input? Some converters aren't made very well and the impedence may be incorrect.
     
  11. buffdaddy110

    buffdaddy110 TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 28

    I've tried everything including installing wdm drivers, and using tv tool, it's still black and white. Maybe my card doesn't support this, but then why is there a tv out on the card?
     
  12. Nodsu

    Nodsu TS Rookie Posts: 5,837   +6

    As I already said, maybe your card supports only S-Video, but your TV wants to see a composite signal.

    How about trying another cable or TV set. Does your satellite tuner have a video in capability. Try running the thing through a VCR.

    WDM drivers are good for software stability, nothing else.

    Maybe you could show your card to a TV repairman, they have stuff to test TV signals.

    Have you tried switching the desktop color depth?
     
  13. Vehementi

    Vehementi TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,704

    Erm, is the TV black & white?
     
  14. RustyZip

    RustyZip TechSpot Paladin Posts: 322

    LOL!!:grinthumb

    Good idea!!!

    In my experience, and believe me - i havnt got much:p I find most of the problems concerning black and white have got something to do with using PAL / SECAM / NTSC on equipment that doesn't handle the one ya trying to use... (if you see what i mean):confused:

    Havn't a clue how to fix it though!!!
     
  15. Nodsu

    Nodsu TS Rookie Posts: 5,837   +6

    My thoughts exactly.

    BTW, RustyZip, which are you using, PAL or NTSC (I sincerely hope it isn't SECAM (unless you are french, in that case you deserve it :p (to all french people, i'm just kidding, please don't kill me (we used to have SECAM here in former SU too (I would offend NTSC too, but there are too many americans here (revenge of the parthneses)))))?
     
  16. RustyZip

    RustyZip TechSpot Paladin Posts: 322

    No Nodsu, Im in the Uk and using PAL, Ive given up on trying to re-format my Movie files to VCD... Always ended up black and white... Too much grief in the end...:mad:
     
  17. Vehementi

    Vehementi TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,704

    Heh. Yeah, I know the issue is with PAL/NTSC, but since that's about all I know than I thought I'd go another route...
     
  18. StormBringer

    StormBringer TS Rookie Posts: 2,244

    The Signal setting is a possible cause but not the only cause of a B/W picture. This can also be caused by incorrect impedence on the cables or any converters/adapters being used. If the output of the card is being sent to a converter and the converter is connected to the TV, then this could be the problem. Most of these converters have an impedence selector though to deal with this. Also if you are routing it through the SAT receiver, then that may be the cause. The cure for the SAT receiver would be to use a converter if the TV has no S-Video in. Make sure to use one that has an impedence selector.

    That is all just a theory. It may or may not apply but it does apply with some types of signals when routing them in the ways I outlined.
     
  19. buffdaddy110

    buffdaddy110 TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 28

    I hooked my daughters computer with a radeon 7200 to the same tv using the same cable and it was in color. I called Leadtek and they asked me to RMA the card back to them so they could test the tv card, only problem is they ask for proof of sale to do this, and i don't have that laying around anymore.

    *This post has been edited by: Rick
     
  20. DogStar

    DogStar TS Rookie Posts: 129

    I had same prob.Checked in Device select tab and set 'video output format' to auto-select.Just an idea.
     
  21. Arris

    Arris TS Evangelist Posts: 4,607   +289

    Video out on my laptop came out strange on my TV using S-video. Worked out that my cheap Widescreen TV's "Auto format" setting for the AV channels wasn't picking up that it should be S-Video. I had to manually set the AV channel to S-Video to get the without lines and faded colour. Maybe check if you can set this, maybe for some reason the card your using doesn't cause your TV to switch automatically to S-Video??? Just a thought...
     
  22. Tarkus

    Tarkus TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 621

    It sounds like the colorburst of the TV out on the computer isn't strong emough for the TV to pick it up as a valid signal. If it's only marginal you can increase the color setting on the TV to compensate. I'd probably send the card back as suggested by the mfgr. Of course that sucks unless you have a backup card for the mean time.
     
  23. buffdaddy110

    buffdaddy110 TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 28

    Looks like I'll be taking my old radeon 7200 out of my daughters computer in the meantime. Th good thing is it 's tv out workss, so the movies I spend all that time downloading can now be viewed on the tv.
     
  24. deer22

    deer22 TS Rookie

    I had the same problem with an nvidia geforce 4 card. It showed up black and white and if you kind of jigled the cable it would get some color but was very fuzzy. The way I fixed the problem... Go into display settings and there was a tab to select auto, composite, or s-video. auto didn't work and neither did composite. When I switched it to s-video it worked perfectly and was rather clear. Maybe this will work maybe it won't id say it has something to do with that or your connectors.

    deer22
     
  25. misiaq

    misiaq TS Rookie

    problem

    I'm a intermediate computer user and I had a card with tv-out fine working from nvidia. But, my card was bad, it goes in werry high temeratures and the system freezes all the tim. So I bought a new one also with nvidia chip but newer from another vendor. I got the same problem as many people here. The signal in the TV is B&W if I use s-video (4pin) connector or composite. When I start the computer TV has full coluor but after the login screen in Windows XP appears the signal is only B&W. The cable is 100% good, my tv has S-video and composite input also the card has both outputs. Nowhere finded help about this problem. I sugest many users got the same problem. The posibilities are: driver or windows. 100% is not a problem in cables/connectors or Hardware. This should help many users.
     
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