Hate to be the bearer of mad news, but when I validated the home page for the forums I got 186 errors on that page along!: http://validator.w3.org/ and you can go here also to see more: http://www.htmlhelp.com/tools/validator/ When I tried to send a e-mail to the webmaster I got it returned: This Message was undeliverable due to the following reason: Each of the following recipients was rejected by a remote mail server. The reasons given by the server are included to help you determine why each recipient was rejected. Recipient: <"mailto:julio"@techspot.com> Reason: 5.1.1 <"mailto:julio"@techspot.com>... User unknown Please reply to Postmaster@verizon.net if you feel this message to be in error. It's apparent that the site was written for IE. Really bad mistake. IE isn't, wasn't, will NEVER be ANY kind of standard! W3C is and should be adheared to.