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what is wrong with my video card?

By dzixjay
Nov 19, 2006
  1. Hi guys, sorry I have to post a problem with my 1st post :wave: .
    I have a ati9800pro 128mb and its having a problem..I'll let the pictures explain
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    I don't think it overheated or anything since I'm not a heavy gamer... so can anyone explain what happen to it? I had it for about 2 and 1/2 yrs.
    Thanks in advance!
     
  2. DonNagual

    DonNagual TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 2,404

    Could be a number of possibilities, but the likey cause is your card is dying. Let's try a few things to help troubleshoot.

    1. Open up your case, blow the dust off the graphics card and then aim a house fan directly at the GPU. Turn on your system and see if this makes the problem lessen. 9800s are well known to be overheaters (even when not gaming).

    2. Could be a PSU problem. Download and run THIS and tell us what it is reporting for your voltage readings on the:

    +3.3v:
    +5v:
    +12v:
     
  3. dzixjay

    dzixjay TS Rookie Topic Starter

    Thanks for the reply, I just took out the card and put it in my brother's computer and it seem the problem is gone...(think it might come back again) and heres the readings I get from speedfan:
    +3.3V: 2.95V
    +5v: 5.03V
    +12V: 11.07V
     
  4. DonNagual

    DonNagual TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 2,404

    It may be your powersupply then. You say the card seems to work fine in your brother's system? Play a game or to just to test it.

    Your reading on the +12v looks pretty bad. Software readings of voltages are not all that reliable, but still, it is looking like we may have found your problem.
     
  5. dzixjay

    dzixjay TS Rookie Topic Starter

    I just try watching a video on my bro's comp and the graphic went bad again :mad: Oh yea the speedfan reading I post was from my bro's comp, heres what mine read:
    +3.3v: 3.22v
    +5.v: 5.14v
    +12v: 12.03v
    So I guess its the card then, well that gives me an excuse to upgrade it.
    Whats good in the market for around $150?
     
  6. DonNagual

    DonNagual TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 2,404

    In that price range I'd probably look at the 7600gs (or the X850pro)
     
  7. TimeParadoX

    TimeParadoX TS Rookie Posts: 2,273

    if you're not a hardcore gamer ( or gamer at all... ) then you dont need to spend alot of money on high-end cards like the nVidia 7 series instead get a cheaper videocard
     
  8. dzixjay

    dzixjay TS Rookie Topic Starter

    I do play alot of games, but I wont consider myself hardcore...yet.
    So which one of the two consumes less power? since my PSU has only 420 watts
     
  9. wolfram

    wolfram TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,967   +9

    How many amps does it have on the +12V rail? Check the sticker attached to the PSU.
    Then, we can recommend a good card :)
     
  10. dzixjay

    dzixjay TS Rookie Topic Starter

    embarrassingly I have to say I can't find it :( I have a dell PC and I hate the design. I only know the PSU is located at the bottom..somewhere.
     
  11. wolfram

    wolfram TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,967   +9

    It should look like this:

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    :)
     
  12. dzixjay

    dzixjay TS Rookie Topic Starter

    I don't see any stickers, since the PSU is located under the case and is cover up. But I find these on my user manual:
    fixed-voltage power supply—110 V at 50/60 Hz

    manual selection and auto-sensing power supplies—90 to 135 V at 50/60 Hz; 180 to 265 V at 50/60 Hz; 100 V at 50/60 Hz for Japanese computers
    460 Watts
     
  13. wolfram

    wolfram TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,967   +9

    If I were you, I'd take out the PSU, and check its sticker (if it has any). If you have a cheap, chinese no-name PSU, then adding a new card could be risky.

    But if you're gonna get a 7600GS for example, maybe you won't need to change your PSU.

    What card do you want to get?
     
  14. dzixjay

    dzixjay TS Rookie Topic Starter

    [​IMG]
    Thanks to the nice people of DELL forum!
    I'm planning on getting a X850pro but if my PSU can handle better ones I might go for something better, since I plan to keep my system for at least 1 more year.
    So any suggestions?
     
  15. TimeParadoX

    TimeParadoX TS Rookie Posts: 2,273

    Hmm.. are you willing to do abit of changing out stuff on the comp?

    I got a link to a sweet SLI ready PSU that has 700w! That can hold 8800s ( newest card from nvidia ) so if you ever do become hardcore gamer like the rest of us you can upgrade =)

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817341002
     
  16. DonNagual

    DonNagual TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 2,404

    That PSU should have no problem handling a high end card. It has 32amps on the +12v rail. Not bad at all so long as you are not thinking to go with SLI (you likely don't have enough watts for an SLI setup)

    You'll just want to be sure it has enough watts for your system and the card you want. Go here and calculate how much you'll need:

    http://www.extreme.outervision.com/psucalculator.jsp
     
  17. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 5,431   +28

    That PSU is the same one I have, only mine is the Crossfire-certified edition. But nevertheless, it's an awesome PSU. It looks small but packs a mean punch. It has served me well and my system works perfectly with it.
     
  18. TimeParadoX

    TimeParadoX TS Rookie Posts: 2,273

    Yeah rage that PSU is going into all the builds im making because it's by far the best I ever seen for the price it has!
    Thanks for linking me it rage =P
     
  19. dzixjay

    dzixjay TS Rookie Topic Starter

  20. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 5,431   +28

    The 7800GS completely destroys the X850PRO left, right and centre. It's the most powerful card available for AGP (until the X1950 AGP arrives that is :)). A slightly cheaper alternative to the X850PRO would be the X800GTO. For NVIDIA, the alternative card is the 6800GS. Both the X800 series and the 6800 series are solid performers but I would prefer to go with the 6800GS since it is much more powerful than the X800GTO. But it's difficult to find, in which case the X800GTO is a gret alternative choice. In the end, it's up to you. Make a good choice that's within your reach and gives you the most bang-for-your-buck. And if it helps, avoid the X1600 series of AGP cards, since they're terribly slower than the X800 series and priced evenly or higher, which is a bad deal.
     
  21. wolfram

    wolfram TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,967   +9

    Yeah, definitely the 7800GS is a fantastic choice!! :)

    And your PSU should have no problems with it. But maybe, if you can wait a little, you can check the X1950PRO. Maybe it will be able to defeat the 7800GS.
     
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