What makes the amd64 better ?

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james_k1988

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i am hopeing that when i get some cash i'm giveing my computer a mighty upgrade. I was told that the amd64fx is one of the most powerful processors and is especially good for gameing. So i went to check prices and found alot of different versions (diff mhz) that cost a bundle. what got me thinking was i saw one, the same power as mine (i have a AMD Sempron 2600+, runs at bout 1.8 and the one i saw was the same mhz 1.8) except it had alot more fsb and higher bus speed. is it these 2 things that make it run so much faster?
 
I would get a 64bit 3500 your Sempron dont have the cahe that the 64 bit one does Amd needs to bring back the Athlon XP barton those were great chips. I really think this might hurt AMD buy pulling the socket A barton core But basically then 64bit is barton on steroids wich is a good way to look at it..Personally I would not run a Sempron not enough guts as the good old barton core had


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AMD64 is mostly XP. I don't get it why Intel dumped the Northwood (cooler) and AMD dumped the XP. The two are the best of the 32-bit chips, IMO.

Even a Sempron and AMD64 running at the same speed, the AMD64 is somewhat faster in 32-bit. In 64-bit, AMD64 kicks rear.
 
fishhookz said:
I don't get it why Intel dumped the Northwood (cooler) and AMD dumped the XP.
Don't know about Intel, but I can understand that AMD doesn't want to spend too much more energy on the 32-bit line. Think about it: AMD were the x86-64 pioneers, and Intel had to follow them (seeing that the Itanium line wasn't much of a success). It's only natural for AMD to try and stay ahead of the competition, isn't it? In the 32-bit world, Intel were the pioneers, and AMD had to keep fighting the (not necessarily deserved) idea that Intel were superior, with AMD being the followers.

It's a great marketing move for AMD to concentrate on 64-bit processing, since that's where they have an advantage. If I were in their place, I would do everything it took to keep that advantage.
 
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kool then i'll definetly go for the amd64 as i mainly use my machine for gameing. Now my motherboard, could it take a amd64, listed below is what sandra says bout it

SiSoftware Sandra

Mainboard
MP Support : 1 CPU(s)
MPS Version : 1.40
Model : SiS-741
System BIOS : 11/01/2004-SiS-741-6A7I8FK9C-00

System Memory Controller
Location : Mainboard
Error Correction Capability : None
Number of Memory Slots : 4
Maximum Installable Memory : 1GB
Bank0/1 - A0 : DIMM 512MB
Bank2/3 - A1 : DIMM 512MB
Bank4/5 - A2 : Empty
Bank6/7 - A3 : Empty

Chipset 1
Model : Foxconn International Inc SiS741 CPU to PCI Bridge
Bus(es) : ISA AGP PCI USB i2c/SMBus
Front Side Bus Speed : 2x 167MHz (334MHz data rate)
Maximum FSB Speed / Max Memory Speed : 2x 200MHz / 2x 200MHz
Width : 64-bit
IO Queue Depth : 7 request(s)

Chipset 1 Hub Interface
Type : MUTOL
Width : 16-bit
Full Duplex : No
Multiplier : 1/1x

Logical/Chipset 1 Memory Banks
Bank 0 : 512MB DDR-SDRAM 2.5-3-3-9CL 2CMD
Bank 1 : 512MB DDR-SDRAM 2.5-3-3-9CL 2CMD
Channels : 1
Speed : 2x 167MHz (334MHz data rate)
Multiplier : 1/1x
Width : 64-bit
Refresh Rate : 15.60µs
Power Save Mode : No
Fixed Hole Present : No

Environment Monitor 1
Model : ITE IT8705/12 ISA
Mainboard Specific Support : No

Temperature Sensor(s)
Board Temperature : 44.0°C / 111.2°F td

Cooling Device(s)
Auto Fan Speed Control : No
Chassis Fan Speed : 3590rpm

Voltage Sensor(s)
CPU Voltage : 1.58V
Aux Voltage : 3.28V
+3.3V Voltage : 2.88V
+5V Voltage : 5.24V
+12V Voltage : 8.42V
-12V Voltage : -4.30V
-5V Voltage : -3.25V
Standby Voltage : 3.58V

AGP Bus(es) on Hub 1
Version : 3.05
Speed : 8x
Fast-Writes Enabled : No
Isochronous Mode Enabled : No
Addressing Enabled : 32-bit
Aperture Size : 128MB

PCI Bus(es) on Hub 1
Version : 2.10
Number of Bridges : 1
PCI Bus 0 : PCI (1/1x PCIClk)

LPC Hub Controller 1
Model : Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS) SiS PCI to ISA Bridge (LPC Bridge)
ACPI Power Management Enabled : Yes
Multiplier : 1/4x

USB Controller 1
Model : Foxconn International Inc SiS5597/8 Universal Serial Bus Controller
Version : 1.00
Interface : OHCI
Channels : 3
Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps)
Legacy Emulation Enabled : No

USB Controller 2
Model : Foxconn International Inc SiS5597/8 Universal Serial Bus Controller
Version : 1.00
Interface : OHCI
Channels : 3
Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps)
Legacy Emulation Enabled : No

USB Controller 3
Model : Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS) SiS7002 USB 2.0 Enhanced Controller
Version : 2.00
Specification : 1.00
Interface : EHCI
Channels : 6
Companion Controllers : 2
Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps) High (480Mbps)
Addressing Support : 32-bit
Legacy Emulation Enabled : No

System SMBus Controller 1
Model : SiS 5595 Internal SMBus
Advanced TCO Mode Enabled : No
Slave Device Enabled : No
PEC Support : No

Expansion Slot(s)
PCI0 (1h) : PCI 32-bit +5V PME Full-Length Available (Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS) SiS648FX PCI to AGP Bridge)
PCI1 (2h) : PCI 32-bit +5V PME Full-Length Used (Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS) SiS PCI to ISA Bridge (LPC Bridge))
PCI2 (3h) : PCI 32-bit +5V PME Full-Length Available (Foxconn International Inc SiS5597/8 Universal Serial Bus Controller)
PCI3 (4h) : PCI 32-bit +5V PME Full-Length Available (Foxconn International Inc SiS900 10/100 Ethernet Adapter)
AGP (8h) : AGP 32-bit +5V Full-Length Used (Nvidia Corp GeForce FX 5700VE [NV36.4])

Port Connector
PRIMARY IDE : None - ATA / None
SECONDARY IDE : None - ATA / None
FDD : 8251 FIFO - Floppy Disk / None
COM1 : Serial Port 16450 - 9 Pin Dual Inline / DB-9 pin male
COM2 : Serial Port 16450 - 9 Pin Dual Inline / DB-9 pin male
LPT1 : Parallel Port ECP/EPP - DB-25 pin female / DB-25 pin female
Keyboard : Keyboard - PS/2 / PS/2
PS/2 Mouse : Mouse - PS/2 / PS/2
USB0 : USB - None / None

Performance Tips
Warning 2533 : Disabled host controllers are present. Check BIOS settings.
Notice 224 : SMBIOS/DMI information may be inaccurate.
Tip 2511 : Some memory slots are free so the memory can be easily upgraded.
Warning 100 : Large memory sizes should be made of Registered/Buffered memory.
Tip 2 : Double-click tip or press Enter while a tip is selected for more information about the tip.

I'm not to familiar about cpu sizes an all that, but do know that the cpu i;m using jsut now is socket A lol let me know if my board cant take a A64 and i'll give you a link to a site where i wanna buy a board off of and you lot can tell me what one will go with it ;)

ps youll notice down the bottom at performance tips its says "disabled host controllers present" i've looked in teh bios and cant find where to enable them. Can someone tell me where to do this, or even if its worth it.
 
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o rite. well thats kl, id prefer a board that can take more RAM neways. So does anyone have any ideas on the host controlers bit at the bottom i mentioned??

o and heres the site, pick out a gd one, but not 2 expensive but able 2 take the amd64 :angel:

http://www.e-woc.co.uk/amd_motherboards.htm

this is quite a cheap site an the shop is only 3 miles away from me so delivery should be el-cheapo
 
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