What video card?

By Cronnie
Apr 10, 2006
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  1. What video/graphic? card?

    Ok i am a complete newb at this....

    Recently got a 1gb memory upgrade which really cranked my system up lol :)

    But now i want a video card to get that extra performance when playing games...

    I want a graphics card that can deal with Age of Empires 3, which is what i play most these days, it runs smoothly, but when im having massive battles it lags badly.... :(

    Here is the results from my Crucial scan, to help you.


    Your computer currently has 1280 MB of memory installed; and will support up to 2048MB.

    Slot 1
    256 MB
    Non-parity DDR PC2700

    Slot 2
    1024 MB
    Non-parity DDR PC2700

    Your Graphics Card
    Card Type (Bus Type)
    AGP
    Your system currently has integrated/onboard graphics.


    Your Computer
    Computer Manufacturer
    Crucial Scanner Results
    Computer Model
    HP-Compaq Gamila, Giovani, or Neon Motherboards
    CPU Manufacturer
    GenuineIntel
    CPU Family
    Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.80GHz
    CPU Speed
    2800 MHz
    Front-Side Bus Speed
    100 MHz
    Currently Installed Memory
    1280 MB
    Maximum Memory Capacity
    2048MB
    Total Number Of Memory Slots
    2
    Available Memory Slots
    0

    If you need any more info please ask :)

    I also have a few 'guidlines'.

    My budget is around £20 - £50 (not high i know but strapped for cash...)

    Might even go up to £100 if it is really worth it, but around £50 is my target...

    As you might have realised, i am from the UK, so could i have a place that delivers to UK?

    Thanks for all help!
  2. DonNagual

    DonNagual TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 3,566

    It looks like you have an empty AGP slot for graphics upgrades, which is good news! You'd notice a major performance increase over integrated, without a doubt.

    In your budget, see if you can't find a 6600GT. If you can't find one in your budget, then bump down to a plain 6600, but if at all possible, get yourself the GT version as there is quite a big difference between the two.

    You will also want to confirm that your power supply will be able to handle the upgrade. Open up your case and have a look at the sticker attached to the PSU. How many watts is it rated at, and who is the PSU maker?
  3. DonNagual

    DonNagual TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 3,566

  4. Cronnie

    Cronnie Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 36

    Wow, there is quite a lot of difference between the two, but the chart makes me feel sad :( I look at the top one with 80fps and im stuck with 14... :(

    If there are any significantly better ones, i will fork out extra 20 - 40 quid for it...

    Right, opened up my case, and yes there is a free AGP slot (the brown one i believe?)

    There are also two white slots free (which are PCI, but i think AGP is better?)

    Ok there is a lot of info on the PSU so im just gonna give you most of it :)

    Manufacturer: Aquarius (this didnt come with computer, it went for repairs and
    the 'dude' changed this)

    Model: LC-B350ATX

    AC Input:

    Voltage:
    230V~

    Current:
    8A/4A FOR 350W

    I think those are what you need?

    Also there are another set of voltage and current:

    115V~
    8A/41 FOR 300W

    But there are two model numbers, LC-B350ATX & LC-B300ATX, so mine is first one so im guessing mine is the 230v one?

    Hope this helps....

    Also, is it possible to find any websites selling the card? I have found some at around £100, is there any for less?

    I have found these two video cards for much cheaper... are they any good for me?
    and...

    Are any of them two good? and which one is better?
  5. CrossFire851

    CrossFire851 Newcomer, in training Posts: 1,058

    the 6600 gt with 128mb is better then those two.
    But the 6200 is better, out of that pick stated above.
  6. Cronnie

    Cronnie Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 36

    Also, how do i know what make my motherboard is?

    I have opened up my computer and i cant see any labels etc....

    The technician changed the motherboard and i dont have any documentation etc.....

    I cant get in touch with him because he has sold his shop and retired or summin.....

    Also, people keep saying about 4x, and 16x and all that, how do i know which one my AGP slot is?

    My AGP slot is around half the size of my memory card slot, so i think its 8x?

    I have no idea....
  7. Cronnie

    Cronnie Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 36

    Ok searched a bit for the 6600....

    cheapest i found so far is:

    256MB AGPx8 NVidia GeForce 6600LE DDR 128-Bit DVI TV-out - £60

    256MB AGPx8 NVidia Inno3D GeForce 6600 DDR 128-Bit DVI TV-out - £65

    The above are from same site, whats the difference? and are they any good?

    I will update if i find cheap, like i said thats a bit tight on the budget :(

    If you find any for cheaper than please let me know!
  8. DonNagual

    DonNagual TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 3,566

    Well, with that card you would notice a significant performance increase over your integrated graphics, however, that is the "LE" version of the 6600. It is a budget version of a budget card, and it is significantly slower than the plain 6600 card (and cheaper).
  9. Cronnie

    Cronnie Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 36

    Now, i know im not no master but i just saw this:

    ASUS 128MB GEFORCE 6800XT TV/DVI 8x

    for.... £95!

    Is this worth it? or am i just getting excited because its 6800XT?

    Well, it was out of stock so i think it is a good deal....

    should i go with the:

    256MB AGPx8 NVidia Inno3D GeForce 6600 DDR 128-Bit DVI TV-out - £65

    or

    ASUS 128MB GEFORCE 6800XT TV/DVI 8x - £95
  10. DonNagual

    DonNagual TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 3,566

    If you can get a 6800XT in your budget, go for it! Great cards. If they have any more details on the card post them here. Sometimes great deals are actually cards that have been cheaply made, and are actually a little slower. But if it is an Asus as you say, then it should be fine!

    Even though it is only 128mb, it would still be a much better card than the 256mb 6600 (vanilla).

    But if you can't get that 6800XT, the 6600 (256mb) is a solid entry level gaming card).
  11. Cronnie

    Cronnie Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 36

    ok...

    or

    EDIT: Also, how can i double check my motherboard can fit these? How do i know for sure i have 8x type?
     
  12. DonNagual

    DonNagual TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 3,566

    That 6800XT looks like a great card! If you can find one, that is the one to get.
  13. Cronnie

    Cronnie Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 36

    Thats what i was thinking :)

    Shame its not in stock, and they dont have a confirmed delivery date for new ones yet either....

    When it comes in stock i will post here :) Spread the love... he he

    Also, how do i double check my motherboard is 8x? are there any pics of an 8x motherboard or something i can compare it to?

    Because i cant find a model number or anything...

    and DonNagual, i would like to thank you for all your help, your a life saver :)
  14. DonNagual

    DonNagual TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 3,566

    Download and run this on your computer, and tell us what it says about your mainboard:

    http://www.techspot.com/downloads/27-cpu-z.html
  15. Cronnie

    Cronnie Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 36

    Ok got the info but i dont know if it is 8x?

    Mainboard and chipset
    Motherboard manufacturer MICRO-STAR INTERNATIONAL CO., LTD
    Motherboard model Gamila/Giovani/Neon series, 030
    BIOS vendor Phoenix Technologies, LTD
    BIOS revision 3.10
    BIOS release date 04/15/2004
    Chipset Intel i845GE rev. B1
    Southbridge Intel 82801DB (ICH4) rev. 02
    Sensor chip Winbond W83627THF

    Help?
  16. Cronnie

    Cronnie Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 36

    Nope, still cant find any info on whether its 8x or what....

    Someone help?
  17. DonNagual

    DonNagual TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 3,566

    Actually, there is an easier way. In that same program you just used to get your motherboard info (CPUz), click on the "mainboard" tab then look at the bottom of that screen. It shows the "graphic interface". What is it saying for your motherboard?
  18. Cronnie

    Cronnie Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 36

    Its blank....

    [​IMG]
  19. Cronnie

    Cronnie Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 36

    can anyone find out whether my motherboard is 8x?
  20. DonNagual

    DonNagual TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 3,566

    Wait a minute.... are we talking about a compaq system here (or some other pre-made company like gateway, dell etc)?

    If so, please give us the company name and model number. That is the easiest way to find out.
  21. Cronnie

    Cronnie Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 36

    [​IMG]

    Thats diagram of my motherboard.

    Heres specifications (from Compaq Site)

    Part/Feature Specification/Support
    Motherboard Description

    * Motherboard manufacturer's name: MS-6577 v3.1
    * Pavilion/Compaq name: Neon

    System BIOS supplier Phoenix
    Form factor µatx 9.6 inches x 9.1 inches
    Processor brand Pentium4
    Processor socket type 478
    Processor family Intel Celeron, Pentium 4 HT processor
    Processor front side bus frequency 400/533 MHz
    Maximum approved processor 2.80 GHz Celeron processor, 3.06 GHz Pentium 4-HT
    Chipset name Intel i845
    Chipset "North Bridge" Intel i845GE
    Chipset "South Bridge" Intel ICH4
    Memory type DDR
    Memory speed PC 2700
    Memory sockets 2 DDR-DIMM
    Maximum Memory 1.0 GB
    Graphics Intel Extreme Graphics with Direct AGP
    Graphics configuration Down
    Onboard graphics memory Up to 64 MB adjustable in BIOS
    Graphics connector (AGP) YES
    TV-Out device YES
    Audio Integrated AC97 Audio
    Audio Jacks ( Legend below ) M, LI, LO, Headphone connector
    Ethernet 10/100 LAN supplier RealTek RTL8101L
    Ethernet configuration integrated, Down
    IE 1394 Front/Back Options 1F + 1B
    IDE UDMA modes 2 x UDMA 100/66/33
    Expansion slots (AGP/PCI/Exten) One AGP, three PCI
    USB ports 2F + 4B
    Serial, parallel, floppy, PS2 keyboard and mouse 1S,1P,1F,PS2 K+M
    Available manufacturing options ( Legend below ) G,L,E,6
    Manufacturing options Legend Legend Meaning
    8 8-Channel audio
    A Audio down on motherboard
    C External L2 cache on motherboard
    E 1394 on motherboard
    G Graphics down (on motherboard or in chipset)
    L LAN on motherboard (Ethernet) P - PCMCIA slot
    LI Line In
    LO Line out
    M Microphone
    M/G Midi/Game
    S S3 power management support
    S/O Speaker
    T TV-out on motherboard
    U Graphics card (up, not on motherboard)
    W Microsoft Windows XP hardware compliant
  22. Cronnie

    Cronnie Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 36

    Ok i have done a bit of research, and based on the diagram i think it is an 8x after all?

    :grinthumb

    But can someone just clarify it plz?
  23. DonNagual

    DonNagual TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 3,566

    You definitely have an AGP slot, but I'd need your compag model number to confirm if it is 8x.

    My guess is, you have an AGP 4x slot, but that's not a huge problem. The 8x cards are backwards compatible in the 4x slots.
  24. Cronnie

    Cronnie Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 36

    My model number is:

    Compaq Presario S7150UK
    ________

    and i think it will work with 4x because:

    Item Code : GCA-AN68XT128
    Item : Asus 128Mb nVidia N6800XT, DVi, TVo, AGP8x VGA Card
    Brand/Model : Asus N6800XT/TD/128M
    Graphics Engine : GeForce 6800XT
    Video Memory : 128MB
    Core Clock : 300MHz
    Memory Clock : 700 MHz(350MHz DDR)
    Vertical Refresh Rate : 60-240Hz
    Max. Display Mode : 2048x1536
    Bus Standard : AGP 8x/4X/2X
    RGB Out : Dual VGA (with adaptors)
    DVI Out : DVI-I
    TV-Out : S-VHS and Composite
    TV-In : No
    Dual View : Yes
    DirectX Compliance : Directx9.0c
    Software : Drivers
    Weight (kg) : 3.00
    Price : £82.95

    So just before i buy.... is that ok?
  25. whtddusy516

    whtddusy516 TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 201

    DonNagual is corret, Intel states your chipset supports 4X
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