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Which Hard drive?

By JoeM076
Oct 6, 2006
  1. I'm confused on which hard drive I should get for my Windows Vista Ready and Gaming, Custom PC- From cyberpowerpc.com

    The Options they give you are the following:

    Single Hard Drive(250GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 8MB Cache 7200RPM HDD)[+0]More Size...
    80GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 8MB Cache 7200RPM HDD[-33]
    160GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 8MB Cache 7200RPM HDD[-23]
    200GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 8MB Cache 7200RPM HDD[-6]
    250GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 8MB Cache 7200RPM HDD[+0]
    300GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD[+28]
    400GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD[+121]
    500GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD[+214]
    750GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD[+314]
    1TB (500GBx2) SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD[+513]
    1.5TB (750GBx2) SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD[+714]
    36.7GB Gaming Western Digital Rapter 10,000RPM SATA150 8MB Cache WD360ADFD[+30]
    74GB Gaming Western Digital Rapter 10,000RPM SATA150 8MB Cache WD740ADFD[+87]
    150GB Gaming Western Digital Rapter 10,000RPM SATA150 16MB Cache WD1500ADFD[+214]

    Extreme Performance (RAID-0) with 2 Identical Hard Drives(160GB (80GBx2) SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 8MB Cache 7200RPM HDD)[+11]More Size...
    160GB (80GBx2) SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 8MB Cache 7200RPM HDD[+0]
    320GB (160GBx2) SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 8MB Cache 7200RPM HDD[+28]
    400GB (200GBx2) SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 8MB Cache 7200RPM HDD[+62]
    500GB (250GBx2) SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 8MB Cache 7200RPM HDD[+74]
    600GB (300GBx2) SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD[+130]
    800GB (400GBx2) SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD[+316]
    1TB (500GBx2) SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD[+502]
    1.5TB (750GBx2) SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD[+702]
    73GB (36.7GBx2) Gaming Western Digital Rapter 10,000RPM SATA150 8MB Cache WD360ADFD[+134]
    148GB (74GBx2) Gaming Western Digital Rapter 10,000RPM SATA150 8MB Cache WD740ADFD[+248]
    300GB (150GBx2) Gaming Western Digital Rapter 10,000RPM SATA150 16MB Cache WD1500ADFD[+502]

    High Performance with Data Security (RAID-1) with 2 Identical Hard Drives(80GB (80GBx2) SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 8MB Cache 7200RPM HDD)[+11]More Size...
    80GB (80GBx2) SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 8MB Cache 7200RPM HDD[+0]
    160GB (160GBx2) SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 8MB Cache 7200RPM HDD[+28]
    200GB (200GBx2) SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 8MB Cache 7200RPM HDD[+62]
    250GB (250GBx2) SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 8MB Cache 7200RPM HDD[+74]
    300GB (300GBx2) SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD[+130]
    400GB (400GBx2) SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD[+316]
    500GB (500GBx2) SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD[+502]
    750GB (750GBx2) SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD[+302]
    36.7GB (36.7GBx2) Gaming Western Digital Rapter 10,000RPM SATA150 16MB Cache WD360ADFD[+134]
    74GB (74GBx2) Gaming Western Digital Rapter 10,000RPM SATA150 16MB Cache WD740ADFD[+248]
    150GB (150GBx2) Gaming Western Digital Rapter 10,000RPM SATA150 16MB Cache WD1500ADFD[+502]

    Extreme Performance (RAID-0) with 4 Identical Hard Drives(320GB (80GBx4) SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 8MB Cache 7200RPM HDD)[+107]More Size...
    320GB (80GBx4) SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 8MB Cache 7200RPM HDD[+0]
    640GB (160GBx4) SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 8MB Cache 7200RPM HDD[+56]
    800GB (200GBx4) SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 8MB Cache 7200RPM HDD[+124]
    1TB (250GBx4) SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 8MB Cache 7200RPM HDD[+148]
    1.2TB (300GBx4) SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD[+260]
    1.6TB (400GBx4) SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD[+632]
    2TB (500GBx4) SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD[+1004]
    146GB (36.7GBx4) Gaming Western Digital Rapter 10,000RPM SATA150 16MB Cache WD360ADFD[+268]
    296GB (74GBx4) Gaming Western Digital Rapter 10,000RPM SATA150 16MB Cache WD740ADFD[+496]
    600GB (150GBx4) Gaming Western Digital Rapter 10,000RPM SATA150 16MB Cache WD1500ADFD[+1004]

    Extreme Performance with Data Security (RAID-0+1) with 4 Identical Hard Drives(160GB (80GBx4) SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 8MB Cache 7200RPM HDD)[+107]More Size...
    160GB (80GBx4) SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 8MB Cache 7200RPM HDD[+0]
    320GB (160GBx4) SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 8MB Cache 7200RPM HDD[+56]
    400GB (200GBx4) SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 8MB Cache 7200RPM HDD[+124]
    500GB (250GBx4) SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 8MB Cache 7200RPM HDD[+148]
    600GB (300GBx4) SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD[+260]
    800GB (400GBx4) SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD[+632]
    1TB (500GBx4) SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD[+1004]
    1.5TB (750GBx4) SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD[+1404]
    73GB (36.7GBx4) Gaming Western Digital Rapter 10,000RPM SATA150 16MB Cache WD360ADFD[+268]
    148GB (74GBx4) Gaming Western Digital Rapter 10,000RPM SATA150 16MB Cache WD740ADFD[+496]
    300GB (150GBx4) Gaming Western Digital Rapter 10,000RPM SATA150 16MB Cache WD1500ADFD[+1004]

    And then for a Data Hard Drive they give you these options:


    80GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 8MB Cache 7200RPM Hard Drive()[+48]

    SPECIAL!!! 160GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 8M Cache 7200RPM Hard Drive()[+62]

    200GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 8MB Cache 7200RPM Hard Drive()[+79]

    250GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 8MB Cache 7200RPM Hard Drive -- Recommended()[+85]

    300GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM Hard Drive()[+113]

    400GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM Hard Drive()[+206]

    500GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM Hard Drive()[+299]

    750GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM Hard Drive()[+399]

    1TB (500GBx2) SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM Hard Drive()[+598]

    1.5TB (750GBx2) SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM Hard Drive()[+799]

    Gaming Hard Drive (10,000RPM SATA150)(SATA150 - Western Digital Raptor 36.7GB 10,000RPM 16MB Cache WD360ADFD)[+115]More Options...
    SATA150 - Western Digital Raptor 36.7GB 10,000RPM 16MB Cache WD360ADFD[+0]
    SATA150 - Western Digital Raptor 74GB 10,000RPM 16MB Cache WD740ADFD[+57]
    SATA150 - Western Digital Raptor 150GB 10,000RPM 16MB Cache WD1500ADFD[+184]

    -Also I am thinking about getting the Raidmax Sagitta Mid-Tower 420W Gaming Case w/ Side Panel Window, and I am not sure I will be able to fit all of these components inside of it. This is because I am also getting a Floppy Drive, a SILVERSTONE EUDEMON SST-FP52 LCD DISPLAY, an INTERNAL 12in1 Flash Media Reader/Writer, a SONY 16X DVD-ROM, a NEC 3550A 16X DVD+-RW DRIVE DUAL LAYER, and a Creative Labs X-FI Platinum 24-BIT PCI Sound Card!

    -And I am planning on getting an Intel Core 2 Duo E6700 CPU, an Asus P5N32-SLI SE Deluxe nForce4 SLI Chipset LGA775 Supports Core 2 Duo CPU FSB1066 DDR2/800 Mainboard w/GbLAN,USB2.0,IEEE1394&7.1Audio, a (Req.DDR2 MainBoard)2GB (2x1GB) PC6400 DDR2/800 Dual Channel Memory- Corsair XMS2 Xtreme Memory w/ Heat Spreader, a CoolerMaster Liquid CPU Cooling Fan System Kit + 2 EXTRA CASE FANS, and an Enermax Noisetaker EG701AX-VE(W) SFMA 24P (ALL IN ONE) SLI Supports 600Watt Power Supply.

    -I am very confused on if everything is compatible with one another, and the fact that new hardware might be coming out soon that will replace the ones I am planning on getting. If you have any suggestions on anything please do not hesitate to post your comment, I need all the help I can get.

    -Anyone that can help me with these problems-THANK YOU!-

    -BTW-Sorry this post is sooo long-
     
  2. dmill89

    dmill89 TS Guru Posts: 475

    Well what are your main needs? If you want a high preformance gameing system and don't need much storage get one 150GB raptor 10,000 rpm drive.
    If you need lots of storage and less preformance go for the 500GB HDD or if you need even more storage go for 1TB. If you want a mix of both I'd go for the 2X 150GB 10,000 rpm raptors in raid 0 for a total of 300GB. A data hard drive is a second (or third if you get raid) drive used exclusively for storage I personally prefer drives in raid and would not normally get (although I have one currently due to the high cost of raptors when I built my current gameing system and my need to store more than 150 GB) a data drive which is realy only good for storage and backup (For backups I recomend external media [tape,etc] or an external device [External HDD,NAS,File server,etc])
     
  3. JoeM076

    JoeM076 Topic Starter

    So 4 hard drives + a Data hard drive is not neccessary?

    And are they going to fit in my case along with the other components I listed?

    -Also another thing is that since the Intel Core 2 Quadro is coming out soon, I guess I'll be waiting to get my computer.
    And now that there will be a new processor on the way, im not sure about the mobo's and other hardware, because they might change.
     
  4. dmill89

    dmill89 TS Guru Posts: 475

    No 4 HDDs and a data drive are a bit over kill. The HDD bays are internal and seperite from the external bays that the other drives use so there should be anough space.
     
  5. mailpup

    mailpup TS Special Forces Posts: 6,978   +362

    Wow, that's a lot to chew on. My personal preference (and others will have theirs) is to use a single hard drive instead of RAID 0 for gaming. You don't want RAID 1 for gaming. A 250GB SATA II 7200 rpm should be enough. If you really want a Raptor, this would be the purpose to use it for.

    For a second hard drive for data storage it depends on how much data you need to store. So size I leave to you but I would recommend a SATA II 7200 rpm over the Raptor.

    You left out a graphics card. Depending on which graphics card you want and whether you plan to get two for SLI, that will affect the power supply choice. You also left out your RAM choice.
     
  6. JoeM076

    JoeM076 Topic Starter

    Well nvidia is coming out with their DX10 vid cards...so I'll get SLI...
    and my RAM is the best they offer on cyberpower pc, which is Corsair XMS2 Xtreme Memory w/ Heat Spreader-(Req.DDR2 MainBoard)2GB (2x1GB) PC6400 DDR2/800 Dual Channel Memory

    -From what I have read on the internet, DirectX 10 will be coming out when Windows Vista is released(AKA-Nov 6)
    And The Intel Core 2 Qaudro is supposedly coming out in November also
     
  7. mailpup

    mailpup TS Special Forces Posts: 6,978   +362

    Regarding your graphics cards, what I was getting at was your choice of power supply depends upon which cards you want to SLI together. For example, if you want to go with two 7950GX2's, Nvidia recommends power supplies in the 650W to 900W range or higher. See this page. To make a long story short, your 500W power supply might not be enough. It depends. Their DX10 compliant equivalents would be the same or higher.
     
  8. JoeM076

    JoeM076 Topic Starter

    So do these specs from www.Cyberpowerpc.com look good to you
    -Any Suggestions?


    Gamer Infinity Elite C2D

    *BASE_PRICE: [+999]
    CAS: Raidmax Sagitta Mid-Tower 420W Gaming Case w/ Side Panel Window (BLACK COLOR)
    CASUPGRADE: 12" COLD CATHODE NEON LIGHT [+10] (BLUE COLOR)
    CPU: (Sckt775)Intel® Core™ 2 Duo E6700 CPU @ 2.67GHz 1066FSB 2x2MB L2 Cache [+370]
    CD: SONY 16X DVD-ROM [-17] (BLACK COLOR)
    CD2: NEC 3550A 16X DVD+-RW DRIVE DUAL LAYER [+28] (BLACK COLOR)
    CABLE: Round Cable Upgrade for Hard Drive, Optical Drive & Floppy Drive [+19]
    FLOPPY: 1.44 MB FLOPPY DRIVE (BLACK COLOR)
    FLASHMEDIA: INTERNAL 12in1 Flash Media Reader/Writer [+10] (BLACK COLOR)
    FAN: CoolerMaster Liquid CPU Cooling Fan System Kit + 2 EXTRA CASE FANS
    HDD: Extreme Performance (RAID-0) with 2 Identical Hard Drives [+11] (148GB (74GBx2) Gaming Western Digital Rapter 10,000RPM SATA150 8MB Cache WD740ADFD [+248])
    HDD2: 400GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM Hard Drive [+206]
    IEEE_CARD: NONE
    KEYBOARD: NONE [-7]
    MOUSE: Logitech MX518 Gaming-Grade Optical Mouse [+36]
    MONITOR: ViewSonic VX2025WM 20.1" Wide Screen Color TFT Active Matrix LCD Display Monitor [+349]
    MONITOR2: NONE
    MOTHERBOARD: Asus P5N32-SLI SE Deluxe nForce4 SLI Chipset LGA775 Supports Core 2 Duo CPU FSB1066 DDR2/800 Mainboard w/GbLAN,USB2.0,IEEE1394&7.1Audio [+105]
    MEMORY: (Req.DDR2 MainBoard)2GB (2x1GB) PC6400 DDR2/800 Dual Channel Memory [+180] (Corsair XMS2 Xtreme Memory w/ Heat Spreader [+45])
    MODEM: NONE [-7]
    NETWORK: ONBOARD 10/100 NETWORK CARD
    OS: Microsoft® Windows® XP Professional X64 Edition [+31]
    PPU: NONE
    PRO_WIRING: Professional Wiring for All WIRINGs Inside The System Chasis with High Performance Thermal Compound on CPU [+19]
    PRINTER: None
    PRINTER_CABLE: None
    POWERSUPPLY: Thermaltake ToughPower 750 Watt Power Supply - SLI Ready [+180]
    RUSH: NO; READY TO SHIP IN 5~10 BUSINESS DAYS
    SOFT: McAfee Anti Virus 7 [+15]
    SERVICE: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS 24/7 LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT
    SOUND: New! Creative Labs X-FI Platinum 24-BIT PCI Sound Card [+180]
    SPEAKERS: (BLACK) Logitech X530 70Watts 5.1 Configuration Speaker System [+49]
    TEMP: SILVERSTONE EUDEMON SST-FP52 LCD DISPLAY FRONT PANEL [+49] (BLACK COLOR)
    TVRC: None
    UPS: None
    USB: Build-in USB 2.0 Ports
    USBHD: NONE
    VIDEOCAMERA: NONE
    VIDEO: NEW !!! NVIDIA Geforce 7600 GS 512MB PCI Express x16 Video Card [+33]
    VIDEO2: NEW !!! NVIDIA Geforce 7600 GS 512MB PCI Express x16 Video Card [+33]
    WNC: NONE
    WAP: NONE
    ZIP: NONE
    _PRICE: (+3174)
    _view_: detail
     
  9. dmill89

    dmill89 TS Guru Posts: 475

    The Enermax Niosetaker 600w is enough for those 7600s but If you plan on upgradeing to the nVidia geforce 8800s (the first DX-10 cards) when they come out they require 300w each (plus whatever you need for the rest of the system) so I would go with the Enermax Galaxy 1000w or the PC Power & Cooling Turbo-Cool 850W (eventhough the PCP&C PSU is rated lower it is actually better than the Enermay Galaxy but costs $200 more) The Galaxy is a great PSU and is the best for the money. I advise against any of the Thermaltake or Apeva PSUs that Cyberpower offers they may look like good deals but cheep powersupplies tend to cause lots of problems.

    Everything Else looks good.
     
  10. JoeM076

    JoeM076 Topic Starter

    Ok..Thanks ALot!
     
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