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Windows Media gives BSOD and instant reboot

By dugawug
Nov 10, 2005
  1. i just re-installed Win XP Pro SP2. within one week, i'm already getting the BSOD! just now i discover that every time i load up Windows Media Player, BSOD and instant reboot.

    minidumps attached, i have no idea why this is happening.

    also, please see my other thread, i'm also getting occasional BSOD but not so obviously related to opening Windows Media!

    http://www.techspot.com/vb/topic36923.html
     

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  2. Vigilante

    Vigilante TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,666

    This may pertain to both BSODs.

    Right-click My Computer - Manage - Event viewer.
    First go into Application, and list some of the latest (in date) errors. Never mind info and warnings.
    Same with System logs. These are easier to research then minidumps.

    Also, by what process did you use to install XP? Is it a restore disk? Just OS? Did you load all your own drivers? In what order?

    A BSOD this quick after a fresh reload (done right), will usually still come down to hardware.

    The other thing you want to do is turn off Auto-restart.
    Right click My Computer - Properties - Advanced - Startup and Recovery settings - uncheck Automatic restart.
    Then go in Media Player until it crashes. Now it should give the BSOD with a STOP error and perhaps a message at the top. Post this info.

    cheers
     
  3. howard_hopkinso

    howard_hopkinso TS Rookie Posts: 24,177   +19

    All your minidumps are crashing at GearAspiWDM.SYS.

    Look HERE for a possible solution.

    Also look HERE for driver updates etc.

    Regards Howard :)
     
  4. dugawug

    dugawug TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 74

    thanks...
    howard_hopkinso, when you say ALL my minidumps are you also referring to those on the other thread of mine?

    (i would be very happy if that were true) :)

    i don't know how this stupid GEAR driver got installed, i search many driver CD's to not find it.

    what's odd is I uninstalled the DVD burning software that came w/ my Plextor DVD/RW and while it didn't remove this "GearAspiWDM.SYS" file, so far i can play a CD just fine again (??)
     
  5. howard_hopkinso

    howard_hopkinso TS Rookie Posts: 24,177   +19

    In your other post one of the minidumps does crash with the Gear driver.

    The other two crash at a Windows system file, but the cause may be related to reader_sl.exe which is the Adobe reader speed launch, and CLI.exe which is related to your ATI drivers. Neither of these files are required to run, and can be disabled.

    See HERE for more info on reader_sl.exe

    See HERE for more info on CLI .exe.

    Regards Howard :)
     
  6. dugawug

    dugawug TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 74

    invaluable information! i thank you both!

    can i ask how one can determine what Service to disable based on the .exe you can see in Task Manager that you want to stop permanently?

    actually, on second look, there is no Service that starts CLI.exe or the adobe one either. what's the best way to prevent these programs to start automatically then?
     
  7. howard_hopkinso

    howard_hopkinso TS Rookie Posts: 24,177   +19

    Click start/run, and type msconfig into the run box, and hit the enter key.

    When the msconfig window appears click on the startup tab. See if you can see either of the entries, and untick the check box next to them.

    Click apply/ok and restart your computer. After your computer has restarted, you will see a window that says you have used msconfig to make changes etc.

    Tick the box that says not to run msconfig the next time you start windows, and click ok.

    Regards Howard :)
     
  8. dugawug

    dugawug TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 74

    i can't thank you enough! it seems (for now :haha: ) that i have a solid system! i find it strange that so many little stupid programs (at least for me) can cause such serious errors.

    anyway, tremendous thanks again! :angel:
     
  9. howard_hopkinso

    howard_hopkinso TS Rookie Posts: 24,177   +19

    Glad we could help (fingers crossed) lol.

    Just keep your eye on things for a few days, and try not to install, or uninstall anything else untill you`re sure that your system is stable.

    Regards Howard :) :)
     
  10. dugawug

    dugawug TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 74

    well, i got a few more over the past few days :( :(

    if anyone can check them out, i'd appreciate it.
     
  11. howard_hopkinso

    howard_hopkinso TS Rookie Posts: 24,177   +19

    One minidump crashes at ntkrnlpa.exe, and points to navicat.exe.

    The other one crashes at ntkrnlpa.exe, and points to Cubasesx3.exe.

    Both crash with a bugcheck of 8E.

    Try doing a bios upgrade.

    Regards Howard :)
     
  12. dugawug

    dugawug TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 74

    interesting...so it seems my Database interface app (Navicat), my music production software (Cubase SX), Internet Explorer, and now my Bulk Email program have all crashed me with the BSOD in just two days! (i checked the two minidumps that happened today myself and just saw where the .exe was in relation to the ones Howard checked) :approve:

    i'm wondering how it could be hardware when these are all software that really don't have any hardware interactions. the music software is the only thing really that works in conjunction with hardware (an external firewire sound card)

    i have the latest BIOS...i'm not sure what to do...there are no configurations within these programs i know of to somehow change... :giddy: (that's rolling on the ground in insanity) :grinthumb

    UPDATE (10 min later): now it crashed apparently from my Avast antivirus program (ashServ.exe) too!!! :giddy: :giddy: :giddy:
     
  13. howard_hopkinso

    howard_hopkinso TS Rookie Posts: 24,177   +19

    Was that also with a bugcheck of 8E?

    When your earlier minidumps were crashing at the Gear drivers. The bugcheck was 26.

    Have you run a disk check?

    If that doesn`t help, then maybe you need to start uninstalling, and disconnecting you peripheral hadware, and then testing your system.

    Regards Howard :)
     
  14. dugawug

    dugawug TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 74

    thanks Howard...
    i have no idea what the bugcheck is. i'd be happy to try to figure it out on my own if it's simple to explain. (which makes me wonder if a nice tutorial on reading minidumps exists out there somewhere?)

    i attached the minidumps if you'd care to take a look. i just found the .exe by comparing to the minidumps you examined and told me the culprits on.

    otherwise, i'll try a chkdsk but i have a feeling that won't do it...

    i've never had such bad luck with a system! puke:

    p.s. my network seems to be funny on a new wireless card. my database connection hangs, FTP is flaky, my download speed varies a lot. i will soon try going back to ethernet connection. any way this could very well be the problem?
     
  15. howard_hopkinso

    howard_hopkinso TS Rookie Posts: 24,177   +19

    All your latest minidumps crash with a bug check of 8E. They all reference the same driver ntkrnlpa.exe. This is the Windows NT kernel system. They point to various cuplprits including the two in my post above, and IEXPLORE.EXE.

    Regards Howard :)
     
  16. dugawug

    dugawug TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 74

    does the above give any clues as to what is most likely the culprit? i'm going to try removing my wireless LAN card, then maybe try a new video card, at last resort, a new p/s.
     
  17. howard_hopkinso

    howard_hopkinso TS Rookie Posts: 24,177   +19

    The only clue is the bugcheck code of 8E.

    As you already know this is often a hardware compatibility issue, and can be hard to diagnose.

    Regards Howard :)
     
  18. dugawug

    dugawug TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 74

    indeed so...thanks for all your help :grinthumb
     
  19. howard_hopkinso

    howard_hopkinso TS Rookie Posts: 24,177   +19

    When you get to the bottom of your problem, as I`m sure you will.

    Please will you let us know what it was?

    Thanks, and good luck.

    Regards Howard :)
     
  20. dugawug

    dugawug TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 74

    i will thanks...
    let me ask you this though, if i go into device manager and choose "disable" for a hardware driver, is that as good as physically removing the device so far as the OS is concerned? (meaning if i just disable my wireless LAN for starters or do i have to physically remove the PCI card to be sure)
     
  21. howard_hopkinso

    howard_hopkinso TS Rookie Posts: 24,177   +19

    I`d tend to recommend uninstalling the drivers, and removing the hardware.

    I`d also recommend that you check your ram as well.

    Look HERE for instructions on testing your ram.

    Regards Howard :)
     
  22. dugawug

    dugawug TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 74

    well, my minidumps from a few months back (examined by cpc2004) seemed very indicative of faulty RAM. not long ago, i bought brand new Corsair XMS ram, fully compatible with my board. it seems highly unlikely that it would be two pairs of faulty ram...

    i'm lost, but am trying to remove one thing at a time. :dead:

    :)
     
  23. dugawug

    dugawug TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 74

    well, i removed two PCI cards and went crash free for a long time. i put one in and all was well, gave it a day, put my Wireless LAN card in and finally got a BSOD. so i'm not entirely sure which is causing it yet, but i'm close!!! :giddy:

    can someone please tell me if this new minidump also crashes with a bug check of 8E referencing the driver ntkrnlpa.exe? then i would know it's the same hardware causing it and not some new or different problem.
     
  24. howard_hopkinso

    howard_hopkinso TS Rookie Posts: 24,177   +19

    Your minidump crashes with a bugcheck of 50, and pool_ corruption.

    0x00000050: PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA
    Requested data was not in memory. An invalid system memory address was referenced. Defective memory (including main memory, L2 RAM cache, video RAM) or incompatible software (including remote control and antivirus software) might cause this Stop message, as may other hardware problems (e.g., incorrect SCSI termination or a flawed PCI card).

    Regards Howard :)
     
  25. dugawug

    dugawug TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 74

    well, i was running a virus scan when it crashed...time will tell when and if i see it again.

    at least i know it's not the same problem i had before! thanks!!! :wave:
     
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