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Your next smartphone may include 256GB of storage courtesy of Samsung

By Shawn Knight
Feb 25, 2016
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  1. Samsung on Thursday announced that it is now mass-producing 256GB embedded memory chips for mobile devices.

    The chips, based on Samsung's V-NAND technology, utilize the Universal Flash Storage (UFS) 2.0 standard and are physically smaller than a microSD card. Capacity, however, is only half of the story as the new memory chips are also incredibly fast.

    Samsung says they take advantage of two lanes of data transfer which allows for sequential read speeds of up to 850MB/sec. That's nearly twice as fast as the average SATA-based solid state drive. They're a bit slower on the write side as sequential writes check in at up to 260MB/sec.

    Random read IOPS (input / output operations per second) are rated at 45,000 with random write IOPS at 40,000. For comparison, Samsung says the previous generation of UFS memory was good for 19,000 and 14,000 read / write IOPS, respectively.

    The South Korean technology giant says one 256GB chip can store about 47 full HD movies. For smartphones that support USB 3.0, users will be able to transfer a 5GB movie in about 12 seconds. It'll obviously take a little longer to transfer, say, a 4K movie, but it'll still be much faster than what's available today.

    It's refreshing to see companies continue to push the limits of local flash storage, especially when you consider microSD card slots are becoming less common on flagship phones. Cloud storage is a solid alternative but it's not a perfect solution as accessing it without a Wi-Fi connection will eat into your monthly data allotment (not to mention the fact that you can't access it at all if you hit a cellular / Wi-Fi dead zone).

    Samsung said it will increase its production volume in line with increases in global demand.

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  2. ikesmasher

    ikesmasher TS Evangelist Posts: 2,550   +852

    A common thing with SSDs seems to be limited (albeit exaggeragetedly so) lifespan. How does that apply this type of internal memory? ELI5 plz. Just curious.
     
  3. Skidmarksdeluxe

    Skidmarksdeluxe TS Evangelist Posts: 6,476   +2,034

    I can't even fill the 16GB on my phone, I still have about 50% free space left so I can't see myself needing 256GB anytime soon.
     
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  4. p51d007

    p51d007 TS Evangelist Posts: 908   +384

    Nice, but personally? Wouldn't need it.
    My phone has 16GB onboard, and I use an SD card with 16GB.
    of the 32GB, about half used up in almost 2 years of use.
     
  5. Trillionsin

    Trillionsin TS Evangelist Posts: 1,315   +133

    If you guys arent using it, why get a fancy smart phone? Or else, they are talking about people like myself who downloads everything. Videos, Roms for emulators, tv shows, movies... hell, sometimes I use my phone like a flash drive just to transfer files to and from place to place, even some photo and video editing. I dont really like cloud storage, though, I do use it for some things, but I also find that inconvenient.
     
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  6. bmw95

    bmw95 TS Addict Posts: 103   +51

    Not so much anymore. I remember reading another tech blog who tested this with the 840 pro and some others. The best of them lasted until they wrote about 1.5 petabytes to the drive, so in the consumer market this isn't really an issue anymore. However in the enterprise market, you need to be careful in which drives to select for your server, as companies such as HP or Dell have SAS SSD's with different write tolerances for different use cases (also of course with very different price points).
     
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  7. Arturo

    Arturo TS Member Posts: 81   +26

    Good, Samsung!
     
  8. Tanstar

    Tanstar TS Guru Posts: 407   +88

    They should've included this in their smartphones before dumping the micro-SD card. They've added the expandable memory back for the S7, but if they put these in the S8 they can leave them off again.
     
  9. Uncle Al

    Uncle Al TS Evangelist Posts: 1,662   +769

    For those that make extensive use of their camera's, especially as a part of their work, this will be a welcome addition to the phones, but be forewarned that if they keep just collecting photo's without ever downloading them, a damaged phone could present a mega-sized disaster should all those photo's be lost!
     
  10. Frank Barnett

    Frank Barnett TS Rookie Posts: 61   +6

    Just think the phone will only cost $1500.00 now
     
  11. Satish Mallya

    Satish Mallya TS Addict Posts: 125   +92

    Those numbers sound SSD-competitive. Seeing as they are mass manufactured for phones, (and thus, I presume, cheap) why not have them in SSDs as well?

    Or is it just a matter of time until someone comes up with a SATA adapter for these chips?
     
  12. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 8,550   +2,894

    That might be the idea they have in mind. Only time will tell.
     
  13. STbob

    STbob TS Rookie

    This will be nice for phones but I want to punch the reviewer in face that mentions 4k movies.

    They would want 4k on a wrist watch and swear the movie looks 10x better than 1080p.
    They are the 4k drones, created and trained by USA media to hunger for 4k. They like the stereo *****s that pay 10k on a needle that don't sound as good as a garage sale CD player.

    They are the hive mentality. I want my 4k, I want to say "hey does it come in 4k".
     
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  14. costeakai

    costeakai TS Rookie

    Go sammy go
     
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  15. costeakai

    costeakai TS Rookie

    go mediatek, too
     
  16. DaveBG

    DaveBG TS Addict Posts: 226   +72

    Cant wait
     
  17. Technician

    Technician TS Addict Posts: 677   +113

    Exactly, 16k or nothing. Seriously though you know just because the movie is on the phone doesn't mean you are forced to watch on the phone screen. Most phones have HDMI.
     
  18. Darth Shiv

    Darth Shiv TS Evangelist Posts: 1,620   +376

    "Samsung says they take advantage of two lanes of data transfer which allows for sequential read speeds of up to 850MB/sec. That's nearly twice as fast as the average SATA-based solid state drive."
    Well that is a little misleading as the SATA interface is the bottleneck there, not the flash.
     
  19. entrycoupling

    entrycoupling TS Rookie Posts: 18

    That's a great news! I guess, my daughter would love to hear that Samsung will have to include 256GB storage. Personally, our family would take advantage of that for downloading movies and others.
     
  20. Emexrulsier

    Emexrulsier TS Guru Posts: 508   +45

    What a pointless comment, you do realise they aren't saying "you must have 256Gb"
     
  21. Skidmarksdeluxe

    Skidmarksdeluxe TS Evangelist Posts: 6,476   +2,034

    What a pointless counter reply. Do you realise they're releasing 256GB storage because they want people to buy it?
     

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