After searching for the best price, I found this to be the cheapest. This is exactly how I got mine. At buy.com their zen is going for $129.99 shipped after rebate. (great deal) edit: I cant post links yet haha, go to buy.com and type in zen 8gb to find it. 18+ After signing up and using a buy.com credit card (for $30 that doesn't bother me at all) the price comes to $100 shipped! Great deal! Hope maybe this helps anyone else in the market!