AMD has no plans for BTX

By Derek Sooman on November 30, 2004, 6:02 PM
Unlike rival Intel, who are very keen to push the BTX standard, AMD have revealed that they have no plans to immediately back BTX, in whole or in part. AMD claim that any intention to do so would stem purely from customer demand. Basically, the company has no immediate plans to promote BTX at all. Likely, this comes about because of the vast amount of system design that is needed to get BTX compliance - system specs have to be designed with every element of a BTX based system having to be precision engineered and thoroughly tested.

This is almost a complete repetition of what happened when ATX initially appeared, some time back in 1998. Intel immediately embraced the format, and if you wanted a nice new Pentium II, you had to go with ATX. AMD, however, held back and the result was many AMD K6-2 and K6-3 AT based systems being around for a while, when Intel had completely forgotten AT. Perhaps the same thing will happen this time, when to get the latest and greatest Intel platform you will need to switch to BTX, whereas AMD solutions will still fit in your old case for some time to come.

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Knight said:
I don't see a great need to switch to BTX myself. However in a market where users are obsessed in acheiving greater stats/numbers, even when they don't nessessarily require such features, I have to wonder if this will hurt AMD sales somewhat.
bushwhacker said:
After i saw the BTX design prototype, it was a good cooling solution for Intel LGA 775, but it is difficult on modding process, Look how many it hold PCI? it has less 4 PCI! The amateur modder should be satsified if the ATX, AT or ALX include more than 5 PCI or more than 2 PCI Extreme. I dont think it is great idea to have BTX. I agree with Knight, this will hurt AMD's market. I rather keep my ATX. BTX will be on the opposite side of the case.[Edited by bushwhacker on 2004-12-02 13:15:47]
crazy said:
As i understand one of the primary reasons to switch to BTX would be for cooling.For intel this would idd be usefull with there cpu's breaking altime record temperatures. I don't think there is a need for BTX just yet, intel should first solve there power consumption issus.Both AMD and Intel should IMHO work a little on how mutch power there cpu's consume and drop the speed race for a while.
alcratin_42 said:
You all need to read the book written by Intel "Introduction to PCI-Express", I'm not sure if any or all of this book is available on line, but it explains why the use of PCI-E as they like to call it now is more efficient than the use of PCI. Even when AMD was introducing the idea of Hammer Technology 2 years ago, the whole idea is reduce your power usage while increasing your bandwidth. PCI-E offers up to 16x faster than conventional 32-bit 33 MHz PCI slots. This makes it less necessary for more PCI cards. Instead you will have devices that are scalable in speed. Look at the BTX boards, some have 1x speed slots that are tiny, while others are 16x that are full length. ACPI can now throttle power usage and reduce your overall power consumption. The other thing is that the 16 IRQ limit will not be botched by virtual IRQ's causing popping and clicking with Audio or slow down's with Graphics. Apple introduced PCI-X which is a modification of the PCI spec, where PCI-E is the 3GIO (third generation I/O). It addresses, cooling, speed and backwards compatibility. Now if you want to do more than 2 PCI-E cards, the whole concept is that PCI-Express slots are throttled for speed with a maximum speed overall. So two 266Mhz cards gives you 533Mhz total. As the bus speed of the chipsets increases on this new technology. (That is if everyone buys it to fuel the funding to research more board designs) This puts undue pressure on the peripheral manufacturers like audio and video card companies to put out products that will take advantage of these slots. Yes technology must make it's way out and change is always difficult, but just as every other I/O technology before, having both PCI-X and PCI-Express on motherboards is going to be very interesting. Especially for board design and the number of embedded peripherals included and legacy devices removed.Technically AMD and Intel have both looked at the same solution and are doing what each company thinks they should do, working together does not promote competition and the drive to produce creative products. AMD wouldn't be across the street from Intel if the didn't mean to do that in the first place.
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