RIAA plans to stop suing music fans

By on December 19, 2008, 11:29 AM
Having targeted over 35,000 people since 2003, from college students to a hospitalized teenager in need of a transplant, the RIAA is finally ready to abandon their strategy of filing mass lawsuits against P2P users – and shift the burden to ISPs. Apparently, their tactic of scaring other file sharers into compliance by making an example out of those sued didn’t work out as planned, and now they are looking at new options together with several unnamed ISPs.

Under the new plan, the RIAA would alert an ISP when it suspects a user is illegally serving up music. The ISP will then either forward the email or send their own warning to customers asking them to stop. After a few follow-ups, alongside perhaps introducing a slower broadband service, the ISP may cut off the offender’s internet access altogether. Those concerned with privacy can also take comfort in the fact that the new scheme will not have ISPs passing user information on to the RIAA.

This is somewhat similar to the “three strikes” anti piracy effort in France though in this case there was reportedly no government pressure behind the plan – with New York Attorney General Andrew Cuomo acting only as a broker. How effective will this new strategy be remains to be seen but hopefully it will be a step in the right direction.




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fullmetalvegan said:
This is definitely more like it.
peas said:
[b]Originally posted by fullmetalvegan:[/b][quote]This is definitely more like it.[/quote]More like what? This is as bad as or worse than attacking individuals. Not that going after individuals was a good thing by any means, but by going after ISPs the Maf-IAA are trying to move up the food chain and choke off more users.
dickdowning said:
There is a statement that "Those concerned with privacy can also take comfort in the fact that the new scheme will not have ISPs passing user information on to the RIAA. If the ISPs don't pass user info on to RIAA how is the RIAA going to know who the offending parties are? Secondly how will RIAA prove that the person they are accusing is the real person and not a spoofed address. Third is RIAA going to have to prove that any real transactions took place or is it just guesswork like the old scheme was? Fourth, are any of the vast settlement amounts going to be turned over to the offended musical group or are they going to keep it all like they currently do?
Xempler said:
Guess their strategy to sue everyone and their grandmother didn't pan out too well....probably cost them too much money with lawyer fees and also being counter-sued.So now they expect ISP's to just hand them over customer PRIVATE information for their own use huh. These guys are just unbelievable...they run around like gun-slingers shooting down anyone they want and feel they are above the law.
fullmetalvegan said:
You guys totally misintepreted the article, specifically: "Those concerned with privacy can also take comfort in the fact that the new scheme ***will not*** have ISPs passing user information on to the RIAA.*** "RIAA get's none of your details at all, they simply tell the ISP whom they suspect and it's out of the RIAA's hands from that point on. The ISP makes their own decision from that point forward on how to handle the situation. This already happens in Australia; If you get caught using a torrent tracker watched by the Aussie Federal Police, they tell your ISP and they warn you/temporarily suspend your account, etc for repeated offences.It's a completely sound and fair idea. You guys do realize downloading music/etc without paying is ILLEGAL anyway, so you have no right to complain about getting caught for doing such activties anyway. Amitedly , the RIAA were a**holes and were completely wrong with their accusations and methods, but if you get caught using a torrent / etc that's your own damn fault mate.I'm not a corporate advocate, but you all need to stop defending piracy, it's ludicrous. It's a law, you break it, you suffer the consequences.
johnnyroxx said:
They should really just let it go. people will just always find ways to share music, videos, w.e
windmill007 said:
I'm sure IP blocking downloading services are right around the corner if they try this crap. How about giving people what they want. Cheap legal download. I still can't legally download quality music. I don't want any of this 128- 256K crap. It has to be at least 320K or betetr if I want...and mp3 format only. Is it available? Nope. Plus the price for music is way to high. I'm sorry but it should be under .20 a song and high quality.... then people would have no reason to pirate. Don't they understand that? They think they would lose money by selling less. No you will actually gain because there won't be as many people pirating because they can get what they want cheaply.Never will happen I'm sure...But would help fix the pirating problem. Controls will never do it.. I'm sorry.
fullmetalvegan said:
Buy teh CD, support the artist.
Deathstar17 said:
And so ends any net neutrality we may have had. The RIAA is going to do anything they can to get the ISPs to shut down any/every suspected pirate, which the ISPs will probably be willing to do because they can get rid of a high bandwidth using customer. It will help their bottom line, while "helping fight piracy". The RIAA says it will turn over suspected pirates and then stay out, but does anyone believe them? I can see this dealing a big blow to the torrent community, but untouchable overseas web hosts will then thrive...
cannonfodder said:
[b]Originally posted by fullmetalvegan:[/b][quote]This is definitely more like it.[/quote]do you mean that the RIAA/MPAA having an accord with ISP to spy on your traffic is better?lets not for get who is actually behind the MPAA - RIAA, these are the companies that need to be targeted and boycotted into changing their ways.Name and shame the companies as all the **AA trade group name is for is to protect the ******* capitalist corporate globalist wankers from bad press.RIAA, CRIA, SOUNDEXCHANGE, BPI, IFPI, Ect:# Sony BMG Music Entertainment# Warner Music Group# Universal Music Group# EMIMPAA, MPA:# Sony Pictures# Warner Bros. (Time Warner)# Universal Studios (NBC Universal)# The Walt Disney Company# 20th Century Fox (News Corporation)# Paramount Pictures Viacom—(DreamWorks owners since February 2006)=======================================================
============This is an example of how the RIAA members thwart indie music from ever getting air time, well along with sony payolo like deals. IMHO stealing from thieves is acceptable.It's called a protection racket, you pay us and we'll promote you, if you don't we will block you all the wayRIAA Claims Ownership of All Artist Royalties For Internet Radio [url]http://slashdot.org/articles/07/04/29/0335224.shtml[/ur
]"With the furor over the impending rate hike for Internet radio stations, wouldn't a good solution be for streaming internet stations to simply not play RIAA-affiliated labels' music and focus on independent artists? Sounds good, except that the RIAA's affiliate organization SoundExchange claims it has the right to collect royalties for any artist, no matter if they have signed with an RIAA label or not. 'SoundExchange (the RIAA) considers any digital performance of a song as falling under their compulsory license. If any artist records a song, SoundExchange has the right to collect royalties for its performance on Internet radio. Artists can offer to download their music for free, but they cannot offer their songs to Internet radio for free ... So how it works is that SoundExchange collects money through compulsory royalties from Webcasters and holds onto the money. If a label or artist wants their share of the money, they must become a member of SoundExchange and pay a fee to collect their royalties.'"[url]http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/4/24
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fullmetalvegan said:
Like I said, this stuff already happens in Australia, and no one spies on your connection. It's if you get caught using a known location or tracker. From where it stands, you're all overreacting and jumping to your own conclusions. No where in the articile did it state that your connection would be spied on by the RIAA via your ISP.Simple statement from article: RIAA will report users to their ISP. So to mean that says they will already use the tools they currently use to find piracy, and instead of suing them personally, they hand it to the ISP to deal with it. My god, that's terrible. You mean instead of being taken to court and sued I'm just going to receive a warning off my ISP and possibly a temporary suspension as a lesson? That's outrageous!Bottom line, stop breaking the law and stealing artist's work without paying them, and you have nothing to cry about. If you're so against digital purchases, we have these things nowadays called CD's. Might have heard of them, is kinda cutting-edge technology, anyway I tend to buy these off the artist I support. Get something nice to show for it instead of a file on my computer. Which btw, I can convert to mp3 myself at whatever bitrate and format I want. Just putting it out there, I am being kinda controversial with this idea of actually paying for music on a cd instead of illegally downloading it and then crying over methods being put in place to stop me. =)
Xempler said:
Fullmetalvegan, I see your point but you're missing some points other people are saying.Sure the RIAA calls up the ISP companies and tells them you are illegally downloading music. But do you ever see what kind of PROOF they provide. ANd whether it's legit. What if it was some kind of glitch in their system or if your computer was hacked or any other possible reason. I mean regarding computers nothing is exactly black and white.You do realize there have been numerous cases where people were falsely sued in court for illegally downloading music. And what are their options...take time off work to go to court and spend thousands to hire a laywer...no, they pay the set fine.Bottome line is the RIAA and others like them run around the internet like thugs, using scare tactics, and not caring who gets runned over...innocent or not.
fullmetalvegan said:
Yeah I know, but the ISP can easily ignore the RIAA.
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