Apple launches new 27-inch Thunderbolt Display, Mac mini

By on July 20, 2011, 4:39 PM

Coinciding with the launch of Mac OS X Lion and the revamped MacBook Air, Apple has unleashed a new high-resolution display and Mac mini, both of which advance Apple's adoption of Thunderbolt connectivity (formerly known as Light Peak). Set to ship in the next 60 days, the 27-inch Thunderbolt Display is billed as the "ultimate docking station" for Mac notebooks as the display can use one Thunderbolt cable to transmit power and visuals, or to daisy chain up to five additional external devices.

The Thunderbolt Display sports an LED-backlit IPS panel that touts a resolution of 2560x1440 and 178-degree viewing angles. It's also outfitted with an ambient light sensor that tweaks the brightness based on external lighting conditions, a built-in "FaceTime HD" webcam and mic, a 2.1 speaker system, as well as an integrated MagSafe charger to keep MacBooks charged. Aside from Thunderbolt, connectivity includes three USB 2.0 ports, one FireWire 800 port, and Gigabit Ethernet. Pricing is set at $999.

Meanwhile, the new Mac mini crams more speed and functionality in the same compact aluminum body as its predecessors. Three base configurations are available starting at $599, which gets you a 2.3GHz dual-core Intel Core i5, 2GB of DDR3 1333MHz RAM, and a 500GB 5400RPM HDD. For $799, that's upgraded to a 2.5GHz dual-core Core i5, 4GB of RAM, and an AMD Radeon HD 6630M graphics chip. A third, server-oriented system wields a 2GHz quad-core i7 and dual 500GB 7200RPM HDDs for $999.

If desired, the two non-server configurations can be equipped with a 2.7GHz Core i7, 8GB of RAM, a 750GB HDD or 256GB SSD (or both), which pushes the fee north of $1,800. All systems come with a Thunderbolt port, four USB 2.0 ports, a FireWire 800 port, an HDMI port, an SDXC card slot, Gigabit Ethernet, 802.11n, Bluetooth 4.0, audio jacks, as well as a built-in power supply and speaker system. Mac OS X Lion is preinstalled on the dual-core models, while the quad-core server build gets Lion Server.




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Burty117 Burty117, TechSpot Chancellor, said:

You can get a Mac Mini and it will cost over £1,800 for a decent spec one?! you have to be kidding...right?

Techspot?

lawfer, TechSpot Paladin, said:

Pricing is set at $999.

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captaincranky captaincranky, TechSpot Addict, said:

Whoa, thatz phat dawg, I gottza gitz me one o dem dar thuderboltz. I beez puttzin dat bad boi in da bak of my Ac.

Leeky Leeky said:

You can get a Mac Mini and it will cost over £1,800 for a decent spec one?! you have to be kidding...right?

Techspot?

If you got a Apple display yeah, but they're like £529 upwards.

Would rather a iMac though personally.

gwailo247, TechSpot Chancellor, said:

burty117 said:

You can get a Mac Mini and it will cost over £1,800 for a decent spec one?! you have to be kidding...right?

Techspot?

Strange things are afoot in the currency exchange market.

Guest said:

Combine this monitor with the Air or MB Pro and your set. This demonstrates the power of Thunderbolt quite nicely.

Apple\Intel pushing the envelope yet again.

captaincranky captaincranky, TechSpot Addict, said:

Combine this monitor with the Air or MB Pro and your set. This demonstrates the power of Thunderbolt quite nicely.

Apple\Intel pushing the envelope yet again.

To which envelope are you referring? The one where they see how much they can overprice something, and still sell a s*** pile of them?

Guest said:

"To which envelope are you referring? The one where they see how much they can overprice something, and still sell a s*** pile of them?"

They'd have to pay you to have it before you'd ever be satisfied with any price for anything ;)

captaincranky captaincranky, TechSpot Addict, said:

"To which envelope are you referring? The one where they see how much they can overprice something, and still sell a s*** pile of them?"

They'd have to pay you to have it before you'd ever be satisfied with any price for anything

No, I walk around in sack cloth and never buy anything but bread and goat's milk.

Although, if you're referring to Apple product, you're probably right.

gwailo247, TechSpot Chancellor, said:

captaincranky said:

They'd have to pay you to have it before you'd ever be satisfied with any price for anything

No, I walk around in sack cloth and never buy anything but bread and goat's milk.

I always pictured you in overalls, a plaid shirt, with a loaded shotgun and a jug of moonshine, on a rocking chair on your front porch. And a beagle at your feet.

lawfer, TechSpot Paladin, said:

gwailo247 said:

captaincranky said:

They'd have to pay you to have it before you'd ever be satisfied with any price for anything

No, I walk around in sack cloth and never buy anything but bread and goat's milk.

I always pictured you in overalls, a plaid shirt, with a loaded shotgun and a jug of moonshine, on a rocking chair on your front porch. And a beagle at your feet.

Just when I thought the joke was good enough, you mentioned the beagle. LOL

captaincranky captaincranky, TechSpot Addict, said:

Just when I thought the joke was good enough, you mentioned the beagle. LOL
Well, I'm gonna forego the flannel shirt, at least for tomorrow anyway. (Supposed to hit the century mark here Thursday + Friday).

You can sub out the beagle for a badly overweight, (24+ pounds), Maine Coon, but other than that, you're on the right track. You just have to adjust your imaginations to a very ghetto chanel.

Anyway, how did you guys manage to get the who said what quotes so very badly f***ed up?

Moving on, go Apple!. I gotza gitz me 3 of dem thunderblaster money-tors for "I" finicky!

red1776 red1776, Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe, said:

Captaincranky said...and I quote:

You can sub out the beagle for a badly overweight, (24+ pounds), Maine Coon

I had a hefty Maine Coon as well, about 20 lbs. Is yours extremely vocal? She drove my Russian Blue insane.....oh dear...am I off topic again?

captaincranky captaincranky, TechSpot Addict, said:

You, off topic? Why heavens to megaratroid, perish the thought.

I had a hefty Maine Coon as well, about 20 lbs. Is yours extremely vocal? She drove my Russian Blue insane.....oh dear...am I off topic again?

Actually, "Bangor" is fairly quiet. He does have a loud, pigeon coo type of purr. But it's the oddest thing, from time to time, he actually snorts and purrs at the same time. Now my ragdoll, when that animal wants attention, (usually in the middle of the night), he sounds like he's being neutered without anesthesia. You need to keep an extra pillow handy to chuck at him.

Maybe I'll buy one of the new Mac Minis to hit him over the head with, next time he starts that s***. See! Right back on topic.

BTW "20 pounds" is a REALLY hefty "she" cat.

red1776 red1776, Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe, said:

You, off topic? Why heavens to megaratroid, perish the thought.

Actually, "Bangor" is fairly quiet. He does have a loud, pigeon coo type of purr. But it's the oddest thing, from time to time, he actually snorts and purrs at the same time. Now my ragdoll, when that animal wants attention, (usually in the middle of the night), he sounds like he's being neutered without anesthesia. You need to keep an extra pillow handy to chuck at him.

Maybe I'll buy one of the new Mac Minis to hit him over the head with, next time he starts that s***. See! Right back on topic.

Lynx would make the "neutered without anesthesia" sound at around 3:00am whilst circling the kitchen for some unknown reason. So I would take her to bed with us...to watch some tv....on our 27" Thunderbolt display....see, not enough O's in smoooooooth.

captaincranky captaincranky, TechSpot Addict, said:

Now that I think about it, I want to start the biggest and best porn site ever!

I'll call on Apple, as I turn to the dark side.......

Just imagine this , an abandoned house trailer, chock full to the crumbling ceiling tiles, with the new Mac MIni server editions! That'd get the smut out there, in a big, big, hurry...!

red1776 red1776, Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe, said:

BTW "20 pounds" is a REALLY hefty "she" cat.

Yeah we got hollered on by the vet more than once. She was slim and trim until we had to get her fixed. She got in a scrap with another cat that punctured her plural sac. After the surgeries to rid her of infections, she proceeded to balloon up.(19.8 lbs at one weigh in) It didn't matter what we did. She lived to be 16 so not a bad run considering.

Burty117 Burty117, TechSpot Chancellor, said:

lawfer said:

Pricing is set at $999.

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I love this link

slh28 slh28, TechSpot Paladin, said:

If only Apple displays came in matte, I might actually consider getting one.

Otherwise it's like looking into a mirror. But maybe that's what Apple's typical consumer likes...

Guest said:

thunderbolt looks excellent.

devastator1980 devastator1980 said:

Nope, $1,800 for the high-spec Mac mini, not £1,800 for the "decent" spec. A Mac mini with 4 GB of RAM and other specs that are on the cheaper models are plenty for most tasks, just not heavy-duty gaming.

Guest said:

Uh yeah... if you complain about the prices, you can't afford it so don't knock it and move along.

I don't go to a Lamborghini or even a Merc dealership and complain about how overpriced they are. The car is not for me.

People just like to talk some dumsht all the time about Apple being expensive and overpriced... there's a market for a 1k Display - and you're not the target.

Guest said:

FURThermore, I'm a pro mac user for many years, I don't like the glossy screen, but no one's actually invented a matte replacement, I think it can be done so innovators and inventors... start crackin'. And I want 15% for the idea.

You just need to pull off that glass screen and make a replacement. Don't just sit around and wait to be fed like chicks in a nest, if you don't like the high gloss glass screen lets see some action on your end.

Guest said:

Im sorry but why would I go buy something like this for such a high price. I can build a pc that is twice if not three times faster, network it just as easy, and have an incredibly stable system for not even half the price as a mac of any type. To much hype, to much money, and not enough bang for my buck. Yall can keep them. One side note: If you try to repair or work on macs, thats even more money out of your wallet.

Guest said:

@^Guest above me saying sorry then saying this is such a high price.

Tired. How many times do techtrolls like this always (yawn, blink, blink) have say they can oh, "build" a PC four times faster, for three times less or something...

Why do you have to even say that? What purpose does it serve?

Again, just go about building and investing your time and all that and installing whatever OS you want and building PC's... go... if the Apple junk is too expensive, its NOT FOR YOU...

One side note... c'mon... don't front, I've been a LONG time Mac user, I haven't had too many problems, probably one or two in 20 years of pro work, and I push my macs really hard, and the repair, hardly a bump in the wallet. HD crashed, overheated, so I replaced it, not difficult.

You, techtroll, are talking or rather typing, out of your...

Morgawr said:

First, I'll say that I despise apple's business practices, and that I would refuse to buy either of these things. HOWEVER.....

Point me somewhere I can buy a 27" IPS monitor with a 2560x1440 for under $500. Hell, tell me where I can get one for under $800. That means they give you a hell of a lot of computer for $200-$500. For me, however, the deal breaker is that you pretty much have to throw away a $500 + monitor every time you want to upgrade you system.

Morgawr said:

Morgawr said:

First, I'll say that I despise apple's business practices, and that I would refuse to buy either of these things. HOWEVER.....

Point me somewhere I can buy a 27" IPS monitor with a 2560x1440 for under $500. Hell, tell me where I can get one for under $800. That means they give you a hell of a lot of computer for $200-$500. For me, however, the deal breaker is that you pretty much have to throw away a $500 + monitor every time you want to upgrade you system.

Nevermind, I need to RTFA..... seeing how its only the display.... meh.

Burty117 Burty117, TechSpot Chancellor, said:

devastator1980 said:

Nope, $1,800 for the high-spec Mac mini, not £1,800 for the "decent" spec. A Mac mini with 4 GB of RAM and other specs that are on the cheaper models are plenty for most tasks, just not heavy-duty gaming.

You have got to be kidding?! your joking right? you just forgot the /sarcasm??

Because I just configured one:

£1,539 will get you:

Intel Core i7 Duel Core 2.7Ghz

8GB RAM

256GB SSD & 750GB HDD

Still using the inbuilt Graphics, Still using Inbuilt sound card. No extra inputs or outputs (USB3 for example)

You were joking obviously, even at this price point it still isn't capable of any gaming... At All. Not even a little bit. And I didn't even configure the "Server" version.

I'm sorry, but to all who say "its not aimed for you". this isn't aimed for anyone with a brain, you can buy or build, an ITX based computer (so pretty much just as small) but with a Quad core i7 and a descrete graphics card and a proper creative sound card for instance.

Seriously, no way is Mac OSX worth the extra £1,100 Just absolutely no way.

Butch said:

burty117 said:

devastator1980 said:

Nope, $1,800 for the high-spec Mac mini, not £1,800 for the "decent" spec. A Mac mini with 4 GB of RAM and other specs that are on the cheaper models are plenty for most tasks, just not heavy-duty gaming.

You have got to be kidding?! your joking right? you just forgot the /sarcasm??

Because I just configured one:

£1,539 will get you:

Intel Core i7 Duel Core 2.7Ghz

8GB RAM

256GB SSD & 750GB HDD

Still using the inbuilt Graphics, Still using Inbuilt sound card. No extra inputs or outputs (USB3 for example)

You were joking obviously, even at this price point it still isn't capable of any gaming... At All. Not even a little bit. And I didn't even configure the "Server" version.

I'm sorry, but to all who say "its not aimed for you". this isn't aimed for anyone with a brain, you can buy or build, an ITX based computer (so pretty much just as small) but with a Quad core i7 and a descrete graphics card and a proper creative sound card for instance.

Seriously, no way is Mac OSX worth the extra £1,100 Just absolutely no way.

Agreed.

Guest said:

"I'm sorry, but to all who say "its not aimed for you". this isn't aimed for anyone with a brain, you can buy or build, an ITX based computer (so pretty much just as small) but with a Quad core i7 and a descrete graphics card and a proper creative sound card for instance."

Why would I want to do something stupid like that, when I can buy a Mac Mini and have it do everything I need it to do? Oh, and "proper creative sound card"? That made me laugh...

---agissi--- ---agissi---, TechSpot Paladin, said:

Um Guest is it ok if I'm to guess you dont know that Creative is a company that makes sound cards; hes not referring to the literary definition.

SNGX1275 SNGX1275, TS Forces Special, said:

agissi - haven't seen you in a while, or at least not very active.

Guest may have been laughing at the quality of Creative sound cards... Although I don't have any idea if Apple's are better.

Technochicken Technochicken, TechSpot Paladin, said:

Guest said:

FURThermore, I'm a pro mac user for many years, I don't like the glossy screen, but no one's actually invented a matte replacement, I think it can be done so innovators and inventors... start crackin'. And I want 15% for the idea.

You just need to pull off that glass screen and make a replacement. Don't just sit around and wait to be fed like chicks in a nest, if you don't like the high gloss glass screen lets see some action on your end.

No one has invented a matte LCD display? You're joking, right?

Apple offers matte screens on their laptops (15"/17" . There is no reason why they couldn't offer matte cinema displays as well.

captaincranky captaincranky, TechSpot Addict, said:

Apple offers matte screens on their laptops (15"/17" . There is no reason why they couldn't offer matte cinema displays as well.

Actually there is a reason, it's just not a technical reason. A high gloss display will always have much higher d-max, c-sat, and contrast, than does a matte screen. So, when they're placed in the right environment they look much better than a matte display. However, a matte display will always be easier to situate with respect to controlling glare.

Guest said:

For those saying this particular display is overpriced, look at other 2560x1440 resolution 27' inch monitors.

Look at this: [link]

If this display was 1920x1080 then yes I would agree with the overpriced statement.

And I agree, $1k is a lot of money. But the argument that it is overpriced in comparison to other monitors in this same category is just false.

It is competitively priced. Period.

My only gripe is that you are pretty much forced into buying a Mac in order to make use of it unless there is some sort of display adapter that will let you use it with a Windows PC. Or until there is a Windows PC capable of hooking up to Thunderbolt.

captaincranky captaincranky, TechSpot Addict, said:

For those saying this particular display is overpriced, look at other 2560x1440 resolution 27' inch monitors.

It is competitively priced. Period.

My only gripe is that you are pretty much forced into buying a Mac in order to make use of it unless there is some sort of display adapter that will let you use it with a Windows PC. Or until there is a Windows PC capable of hooking up to Thunderbolt.

A lot has changed in the monitor market with respect to price. At one time the 30" Apple cinema carried a price tag of $3000.00, which wasn't competitive.

The question becomes, do you really need 2560 x 1440 resolution?

I'm going to say you don't. Apple will say you do.

Some will argue I'm behind the curve. Apple will say they're ahead of it.

I still think 16:9 sucks for a computer screen, regardless of how many pixels are on it.

But, Apple's business model is mostly having Steve Jobs convince you that you'll find a use for this new device. And mine will remain thinking he should stick his new device someplace where, "good things can't hurt you"!

I think the name, "Thunderbolt" is fairly droll and absurd for a computer monitor. Apple is banking on its prospective owners believing that possessing a "Thunderbolt", will make them feel important.

And so the beat goes on.

Guest said:

The point I was making had nothing to do with whether or not you really need a 2560x1440 display, or if Apple will say you need it. Because you're right, you don't need it. Nor was I making a point about Apple's business model and their use of the name "Thunderbolt".

The point I was making is that it is not overpriced.

captaincranky captaincranky, TechSpot Addict, said:

The point I was making had nothing to do with whether or not you really need a 2560x1440 display, or if Apple will say you need it. Because you're right, you don't need it. Nor was I making a point about Apple's business model and their use of the name "Thunderbolt".

The point I was making is that it is not overpriced.

There is a difference between something being overpriced, and something being a poor value.

With that said, suppose I cop to the fact that when comparing, "Apples to Apples", the "Thunderbolt" isn't over priced. However, it is a surprisingly poor value.

Up front, it is a 16:9 aspect ratio display. Which means, that a 24" panel @ 16:10, has almost as much screen area.

So, if I were going to piss away $1000.oo plus dollars for displays, I'd buy >>> THREE<<< of these 24" IPS Hewlett Packards ..... [link]

And verily, I haven't spent $1200.00 on three of them. Total resolution : 5670 X 1200 with "Eye Finity".

Just by itself the HP ZR-24w is a fine monitor, and perhaps the Apple is "better" or "has more pixels", but it doesn't represent a "good value", even if the price is "fair market value".

red1776 red1776, Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe, said:

There is a difference between something being overpriced, and something being a poor value.

That's an interesting point. I had just succumb to the idea that the high performance stuff was "poor value" and is what you pay for that 'last 10%' of performance. Is there a textbook definition of each? or is there a subjective line there?

Guest said:

In other words you're saying it is both poor value and not overpriced.

captaincranky captaincranky, TechSpot Addict, said:

There is a difference between something being overpriced, and something being a poor value.
That's an interesting point. I had just succumb to the idea that the high performance stuff was "poor value" and is what you pay for that 'last 10%' of performance. Is there a textbook definition of each? or is there a subjective line there?

Sorry, I had to quote myself for continuity.

Just as a talking point, let's say I consider something a "poor value" when it requires a great sacrifice to own it. As a definition of "sacrifice", let's say that that means, "what else could I have had, it I didn't buy a, "Thunderbolt".

As you well know, I have an HP ZR24w, and I'm delighted with it. It cost $400.oo. The Apple screen would likely sell at list, and that's a thousand bucks.

So, here I sit on $600.oo worth of potential additional gratification. That could be a 40+" TV, a new guitar, most of a decent whole 'nuther computer, home repairs groceries, and so forth.

Or, I could sit around and wax my Apple. It would sure impress house guests.

If you have more money than brains, or just more money than me, then by all means buy one. I think it would be a piss poor purchasing decision, but again that's just me. It's apparently what Apple is hypnotizing it's followers to do, I just failed to gaze at Steve Jobs shiny, swinging watch.

1977TA said:

That's a good point Captain.

Brings to mind another question, how much would the Apple machine cost that would actually be able to push that thing @ 2560x1440 in a game for instance?

The cheapest mac pro @ $2,500 sports a AMD 5770, even the most expensive one ( $5k ) shares that same card.

People seem to forget that even though Apple is making a killing these days, if it weren't for the iPod/iPhone, they would have gone bankrupt along time ago. Their PC business model is a joke.

captaincranky captaincranky, TechSpot Addict, said:

Brings to mind another question, how much would the Apple machine cost that would actually be able to push that thing @ 2560x1440 in a game for instance?

The cheapest mac pro @ $2,500 sports a AMD 5770, even the most expensive one ( $5k ) shares that same card.

It's not really fair to speculate about a Mac Pro with respect to gaming. Windows has the lion's share of that market accounted for.

However, as an alleged "Pro" model computer, I tend to view the "Mac Pros" as more along the lines of a workstation machine. That said, I would begin my comparisons with a single or dual Zeon Wintel.

Your point about the graphics is very valid in this light. Since the Mac Pro is really a workstation, the graphics should be upgraded to the "FirePro" or similar professional video cards. Here's a sampling; [link]

Before anybody chimes in with the banal, a Mac Pro was never intended to play "Crysis", so don't ask.... 'cause I won't tell...

1977TA said:

Yeah, I just picked the pro because they are the Apple's only pc that has hardware close to being able to run games.

They don't offer any other gaming machines :|

red1776 red1776, Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe, said:

Try this on:

Overpriced:

Item A and B perform the same. Item A is 30% more

Poor value:

Item B performs 10% better, but cost's 30% more.

Solved

Or, I could sit around and wax my Apple. It would sure impress house guests.

Was that a shot at me??

....here it comes

captaincranky captaincranky, TechSpot Addict, said:

Was that a shot at me??

....here it comes

No, it was a combination of self deprecation, a hint of masturbation, and a more shaped, but non-personal charge, sort of like a Claymore Mine, aimed at anyone who got into its path of destruction.

red1776 red1776, Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe, said:

No, it was a combination of self deprecation, a hint of masturbation, and a more shaped, but non-personal charge, sort of like a Claymore Mine, aimed at anyone who got into its path of destruction.

ROFL...you peeked!

captaincranky captaincranky, TechSpot Addict, said:

ROFL...you peeked!
A few decades ago, that would have been...."peaking".

Yeah, this is getting pulled....Go Apple....!

That'll be 2 Mini servers and a Thunderbolt to go, hold the strychnine.....

(For the multitudes of you out there that didn't get the ...."hold the strychnine" joke, I suggest you google, "orange sunshine, and/or the effects of strychnine poisoning).

red1776 red1776, Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe, said:

(

For the multitudes of you out there that didn't get the ...."hold the strychnine" joke, I suggest you google, "orange sunshine, and/or the effects of strychnine poisoning).

I always thought it was "Blue sunshine"....must have been all the 'Orange sunshine'

captaincranky captaincranky, TechSpot Addict, said:

(

I always thought it was "Blue sunshine"....must have been all the 'Orange sunshine'

Those were the days! Being led to your seat at the Spectum, one person on each arm to stabilize you. Having to ask, (of Leon Russell), "is this guy any good"? Being told, "not really".

Nowadays though, I'd watch the concert from my Mac Mini's Blu-Ray drive, with sparks flying off the edges of my, "Thunderbolt", monitor! Screw those crowds. Screw trying to stop at the lights on the way home, instead of actually stopping a half block before them.

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