EA, DICE put future projects on hold and focus on fixing Battlefield 4

By on December 5, 2013, 3:30 PM
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Battlefield 4 has been called a lot of things since its launch. Broken, glitchy and unplayable, are three of the commonly used words to describe DICE's latest shooter. But the developer and its parent company Electronic Arts are looking to clean up the mess. They realize this release is a big deal, to both the company and the franchise's many dedicated fans, and they're taking extreme measures to rectify all of the title's issues.

According to an EA spokesperson, the company is ceasing work on expansions or future projects pertaining to Battlefield 4, and perhaps some other working titles, until all of these current bugs are taken care of.

"We know we still have a ways to go with fixing the game. It is absolutely our #1 priority. The team at DICE is working non-stop to update the game. We know many of our players are frustrated, and we feel your pain. We will not stop until this is right.”

I know what many of you are probably thinking, if that's the case then why did EA release the China Rising DLC? According to EA it's because the expansion was "already in the final stages of development." In short, they were done with it, ready to release it, and sent it to the community prior to performing this recent re-focus. 

It will be interesting to see how quickly EA and DICE can fix some of the major problems plaguing the next-gen shooter, and if extra manpower will fast-track the healing process. I'm also curious to see exactly which projects EA will be halting in order to reallocate these resources. Will we see a big delay in the upcoming sequels to Mirror's Edge and Star Wars Battlefront? Hopefully not, but I'm sure everyone who is "trying" to enjoy a broken Battlefield 4 would be willing to sacrifice just about anything for some stability.




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Guest said:

Good to hear :)

Mavrickx888 Mavrickx888 said:

Well, at least they're taking measures to get it right - or at least claiming they are. I'm still a faithful Battlefield fan through and through, but until I see the important bugs getting fixed, this iteration will continue to leave a bitter-sweet taste in my mouth.

2 people like this | RH00D RH00D said:

I get the feeling DICE really didn't want to release the game when they did but some C-level exec at EA forced them to so they'd be able to meet investors projections for whatever financial quarter. Yay greed.

3 people like this | howzz1854 said:

It's not a feeling. it's already been said that based on a leaked memo from Dice, which was sent prior to release, EA wanted to beat Activision COD to release that they did little to no QA testing.

MonsterZero MonsterZero said:

I've only played a little of the Campaign and some multiplayer maps, what glitches etc are they referring too?

1 person liked this | hahahanoobs hahahanoobs said:

This should of happened three weeks ago.

I've only played a little of the Campaign and some multiplayer maps, what glitches etc are they referring too?

You name it, they messed it up. BF4 is the worst AAA title release in my lifetime. I had my first day without crashing just yesterday, and I foolishly pre-ordered it a day before release. I will never pre-order another game developed by DICE again.

Just from the beta I said in a "Will you buy BF4" thread on this site, that this game would need a few patches to fix it, and it turns out a few was being generous.

Here's the 910 page BF4 issues thread at battlelog.battlefield.com for the game. (5 platforms)

[link]

TrueBooleanFals TrueBooleanFals said:

Hmm... maybe give all us that bought the game for $60+ and had the issues the DLC "China Rising" since it was 'already in final stages' prior to actually finishing the game... since we are not playing a final product and all...? And yes, I do understand people ordered Premium, would be mad. I'm just saying... not even a month after the games release... the base game was $30. I haven't been able to enjoy the game since release.

hahahanoobs hahahanoobs said:

Hmm... maybe give all us that bought the game for $60+ and had the issues the DLC "China Rising" since it was 'already in final stages' prior to actually finishing the game... since we are not playing a final product and all...? And yes, I do understand people ordered Premium, would be mad. I'm just saying... not even a month after the games release... the base game was $30. I haven't been able to enjoy the game since release.

They already "made it up to us" by giving everyone a week of Double XP (the same time as premium members) and a "DICE dev only" 3x scope for the M1911. It was a slap in the face, because it didn't cost them anything.

TrueBooleanFals TrueBooleanFals said:

Yurp, that is for sure... some digital content that does nothing for the vast majority of users... I mean... 1911 scope... double XP that you cant get because the game constantly crashes... that 2x XP boost gives me what I should get in half a match if it weren't for the crashes, freezes, and glitches. Still having trouble climbing certain ladders and when I do, I have to close the game out because redeploying acts as if I were still on the ladder

Darth Shiv Darth Shiv said:

I've only played a little of the Campaign and some multiplayer maps, what glitches etc are they referring too?

Where to start... hahahanoobs has the thread of rage. It is just exasperating how bad and how many glitches existed at release let alone a month after.

The big ones for me are these:

1) Sound cutouts. Particularly on Hainan and Lancang maps. The sound (all effects, everything) just goes while you are playing and glitches back in.

2) BF4 has stopped responding. Seemingly randomly but from what I've heard, it is actually usually related to in game events like shooting then reloading too quickly or swapping weapons or other "unusual circumstances". Hitting the deploy button multiple times too quickly. Less prevalent recently but in the first 2-4 weeks this would happen for me up to 10 times in a 4 hour period. When you wait up to 10 minutes in queues, this is CRAZY bad.

3) Server memory leaks leading to rubber banding. Imagine stuttering forwards and back as you are running. Constantly. For all but the first 10 minutes in a round. Absolutely atrocious experience.

4) Server connection issues. Battlelog failing to connect time after time after time. You'd get to the front of the queue then the game would fail to connect for no reason. Just would say an error has occurred.

5) Hit registration bugs. Head shots that registered double hits and would insta-kill. Hit boxes that were a foot taller than your player's position.

It's pretty wearing and frustrating.

2 people like this | St1ckM4n St1ckM4n said:

Seems like BFBC2 is still the best for MP. :P

Fbarnett Fbarnett said:

"We know we still have a ways to go with fixing the game. It is absolutely our #1 priority. The team at DICE is working non-stop to update the game. We know many of our players are frustrated, and we feel your pain. We will not stop until this is right.?

That means they will fix the game and charge us extra for the ULTRA PREMIUM version that works

Lionvibez said:

This is the reason I'm still playing BF3. When BF4 comes out of beta so maybe in another 6-12 months I will pick it up.

It hilarious that everyone who purchased the digital deluxe version didn't get access to the NEW DLC you have to be a premium member.

All of this nonsense is the reason I waited to pickup the rest of the maps for BF3 only 2 months ago on a Origin sale for $16.

So BF3 limited edition for $59 on release and all the extra maps for $16 is reasonable to me.

I will not pay $100+ EA can suck it!

Guest said:

I bought BF4 when it came out for the 360 because the concept sounded fun and I wanted to see if it was better than COD. I tried playing it for a few days but between crashes and playing with 6 people on huge empty maps and my gun malfunctioning the game was unplayable. I became so frustrated that I sold the game back and bought COD the next week.

Forg0t2 said:

I dunno. It is really frustrating that it has these issues but I will not sell BF4 (I already own CoDG and I find that even more frustrating than BF4). DICE did learn a lessons from this (which has already been told in previous interviews) They will not try to do shit every year. I would say: Release it when its done. I can wait 3 years if it takes that amount of time.

Burty117 Burty117, TechSpot Chancellor, said:

I can wait 3 years if it takes that amount of time.

Agreed, so can I!

I would rather it took an extra year and release it then when the game is ready properly than what they've done now, It's a massive disappointment, BF:BC2 is the last Battlefield were the multiplayer was pretty solid, BF3 is OK, still to this day has bugs and niggles but still playable and tolerable (After A LOT of patches of course) but BF4? It released with the core mechanics of a FIRST PERSON SHOOTER in utter ruins, bullets that apply damage multiple times, rubber banding, hit registration is completely off the hook and seems to require a fair bit of luck. Server queues didn't work for the first week or two the game was out at all, these things are what breaks a game with this kind of potential, when it works, this game can be real fun and you really have have "only in battlefield" moments, but that's so far been 0.5% of the time I've played this game (over 100 hours and I just stopped playing).

Forg0t2 said:

Agreed, so can I!

I would rather it took an extra year and release it then when the game is ready properly than what they've done now, It's a massive disappointment, BF:BC2 is the last Battlefield were the multiplayer was pretty solid, BF3 is OK, still to this day has bugs and niggles but still playable and tolerable (After A LOT of patches of course) but BF4? It released with the core mechanics of a FIRST PERSON SHOOTER in utter ruins, bullets that apply damage multiple times, rubber banding, hit registration is completely off the hook and seems to require a fair bit of luck. Server queues didn't work for the first week or two the game was out at all, these things are what breaks a game with this kind of potential, when it works, this game can be real fun and you really have have "only in battlefield" moments, but that's so far been 0.5% of the time I've played this game (over 100 hours and I just stopped playing).

I could've enjoyed myself with BF3 for a while until BF4 was completely done. Now it feels like jumping from a muddy pool into a sinkhole where every struggle gets you in deeper up to the point you feel so frustrated that you just stop playing. I will however continue playing even tho the issues aren't fun at all, because I simply am in love with the ideas behind the game and the concepts. I find it such a shame that companies feel rushed and that they collapse under the huge amount of pressure that not only consumers put on but sales departments of publishers even more!

Burty117 Burty117, TechSpot Chancellor, said:

I could've enjoyed myself with BF3 for a while until BF4 was completely done. Now it feels like jumping from a muddy pool into a sinkhole where every struggle gets you in deeper up to the point you feel so frustrated that you just stop playing. I will however continue playing even tho the issues aren't fun at all, because I simply am in love with the ideas behind the game and the concepts. I find it such a shame that companies feel rushed and that they collapse under the huge amount of pressure that not only consumers put on but sales departments of publishers even more!

Agreed totally, I also think part of the issue is they developed the game for PS3 and Xbox 360 as well, they should have focused on PC/Xbox One/PS4 only as they are all similar architectures and would make patching and servers much simpler. All x86, All have ATI hardware and Nvidia was already integrated into the game engine anyway for the PC version, I also think they should not have bothered with a 32-bit version of the game, considering this game requires quite a bit of CPU and Graphics power to play, who on earth has a decently powered gaming PC and has a 32-bit OS on it?

All of this extra work for different architectures and platforms will slow them down fixing the game and ultimately, had they not bothered with them in the first place, they would probably have produced a game no where near as buggy.

But I'm the same as you, I'm playing through it anyway even with the bugs, the new China Rising maps are massive!

BSim500 said:

This is the reason I'm still playing BF3. When BF4 comes out of beta so maybe in another 6-12 months I will pick it up.

Agree 100%. At the risk of sounding harsh, unless you've been living in a cave for the past 5 years you'd have to be stupid to buy anything at full price made by EA, and expect it to actually work properly.

Burty117 Burty117, TechSpot Chancellor, said:

Agree 100%. At the risk of sounding harsh, unless you've been living in a cave for the past 5 years you'd have to be stupid to buy anything at full price made by EA, and expect it to actually work properly.

I bought Mass Effect 2 & 3 full price... Both worked absolutely fine?

Sims 3 is also pretty solid since the day it was released. Same with Dead space 1/2. Mirror's edge was also ok, Crysis 3 was solid, Battlefield Bad Company 2 was pretty solid from release as well.

In fact the only broken products was Sim City, BF3/4 and Crysis 2 that I'm aware of (well from experience anyway).

robertocarlus robertocarlus said:

EA touches, EA destroys. C&C ruined, BF ruined.

Forg0t2 said:

Agree 100%. At the risk of sounding harsh, unless you've been living in a cave for the past 5 years you'd have to be stupid to buy anything at full price made by EA, and expect it to actually work properly.

I know. It doesn't offend me in any way. I took the risk of buying it at full price because of the expectations (Which you should never have). I still love the game tho but it would've been so much better for everyone if they just waited a year with bringing it to the market...

1 person liked this | Forg0t2 said:

I bought Mass Effect 2 & 3 full price... Both worked absolutely fine?

Sims 3 is also pretty solid since the day it was released. Same with Dead space 1/2. Mirror's edge was also ok, Crysis 3 was solid, Battlefield Bad Company 2 was pretty solid from release as well.

In fact the only broken products was Sim City, BF3/4 and Crysis 2 that I'm aware of (well from experience anyway).

Back in the day they released solid products. But as years go by their topline products like SimCity, BF and some others needed to go from quality to quantity. They want to produce numbers instead of good products... Same will happen to titanfall if it proves to be a success.

hahahanoobs hahahanoobs said:

Check out this video someone made about the netcode. A must see. EA may have rushed BF4 to retail, but did they tell DICE devs to lie to its customers too?

Fix the BF4 Netcode:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ai656sdq8rc

amstech amstech, TechSpot Enthusiast, said:

Yeah, BF4 has its issues. But a new kickbutt game engine will take some tuning/patches before its as stable as users would like. I have no problems with that.

People, this isn't another shooter made from the same engine we've seen before a thousand times. The possibilities are endless and I can't wait to play BF4 after most/all the bugs are found.

Chuck Cortes Chuck Cortes said:

That's what happens when you go up against a powerhouse like Call Of Duty and try to one up them. You end up with egg in your face. Next time try taking them on by making a better game, not getting out before them. The potential this game had to give COD a run for its money was lost thanks to all of these bugs. Both sides have their loyal players but you can't beat your competitors by using their same tactics and repeating their same mistakes.

This is why I am not a guinea pic, beta tester, day one customer of any product. Only fools subject themselves to such practices by these companies.

GhostRyder GhostRyder said:

Well ive played it quite a bunch lately and hoenstly yea the rubber banding and the hit detection is a bit messed up in many regards which is causing alot of frustration for me at least. As for people crashing, I have not experienced that issue much at all as some people claim it happens constantly. Since its launch, I have been playing and the most time ive spent at one time playing was a 3 hour session and I did not see one crash. I have had it crash 3 times since I started playing and those were all server side cut out, not the "BF4 has stopped responding" issue. So I dont know what the problem is revolving around because for me it does not seem to happen.

This game is bigger than any shooter has ever been, its going to have its issues and I agree I would have rather waited a bit longer for bugs to be ironed out. But DICE knows they have work to do and they cant catch everything before launch, im sure soon enough alot of the issues will be significantly improved or fixed completely.

Guest said:

Welp, looks like Mirror's Edge 2 is canceled because they can't seem to make Medal of Duty Field 4 work right.

IAMTHESTIG said:

I'm still playing BF3. I have never pre-ordered a game anyway, I see every time how big of a mistake that is if you want a game that works. I don't even know if I will get BF4. I'm still disappointed they never brought LAN functionality back. And I don't care for unrealistic "targeting systems" or whatever added onto what should be unguided rocket launchers such as the RPG. I saw the word "homing" on an RPG somewhere during the BF4 beta battlelog pages that I couldn't get to work anyway. I might just skip this game entirely...

GhostRyder GhostRyder said:

I'm still playing BF3. I have never pre-ordered a game anyway, I see every time how big of a mistake that is if you want a game that works. I don't even know if I will get BF4. I'm still disappointed they never brought LAN functionality back. And I don't care for unrealistic "targeting systems" or whatever added onto what should be unguided rocket launchers such as the RPG. I saw the word "homing" on an RPG somewhere during the BF4 beta battlelog pages that I couldn't get to work anyway. I might just skip this game entirely...

If your talking specifically the Beta RPG, that homing feature was only on that weapon because you could not use the Javelin Rocket launcher in the beta and was just there to give you the option to use something like that. In the actual game, you cannot lock on with an RPG.

DanUK DanUK said:

To be honest I didn't think it was all that bad I've been playing it since release and have loved it. There may be a bug here or there but it hasn't been anything game-ruining for me personally. Probably my favourite battlefield to date. Even the campaign was enjoyable enough to warrant a playthrough (which never normally happens with me and Battlefield) although it could have been a bit longer.

Also to anyone massively hating on Dice in this thread.. I kind of get the impression (although I could be wrong) that it was probably EA that forced them to push this out early.

Burty117 Burty117, TechSpot Chancellor, said:

I kind of get the impression (although I could be wrong) that it was probably EA that forced them to push this out early.

You are correct, EA forced them to release to early.

I have never pre-ordered a game anyway, I see every time how big of a mistake that is if you want a game that works.

Very true, I refuse to pre-order also (Crysis2 was the biggest let down of the century), annoyingly though my friends love to pre-order stuff for me

Well ive played it quite a bunch lately and hoenstly yea the rubber banding and the hit detection is a bit messed up in many regards which is causing alot of frustration for me at least. As for people crashing, I have not experienced that issue much at all as some people claim it happens constantly. Since its launch, I have been playing and the most time ive spent at one time playing was a 3 hour session and I did not see one crash. I have had it crash 3 times since I started playing and those were all server side cut out, not the "BF4 has stopped responding" issue. So I dont know what the problem is revolving around because for me it does not seem to happen.

Yeah I don't really get it any more either, however before the client side patch it was pretty bad, 3 hours is kinda a short time to play though, try over 4 and you would get it. The thing is, Hit detection and rubber banding destroy it's core mechanics being a first person shooter, that's why it is so frustrating.

Yeah, BF4 has its issues. But a new kickbutt game engine will take some tuning/patches before its as stable as users would like. I have no problems with that.

People, this isn't another shooter made from the same engine we've seen before a thousand times. The possibilities are endless and I can't wait to play BF4 after most/all the bugs are found.

But it is, it's technically the same engine we've seen since Bad Company, just like Call of Duty it has been improved over the years, UNLIKE CoD though, it has actually be improved MAJORLY, not just added some small thing you barely notice. Whole point is though, if your going to release a FIRST PERSON SHOOTER, make sure the guns, bullets and hit detection works, That's not teething issues, that is somewhere along the lines DICE have concentrated on the Graphics and "levelution" too much and not what it's all about, shooting people :/

That's what happens when you go up against a powerhouse like Call Of Duty and try to one up them. You end up with egg in your face. Next time try taking them on by making a better game, not getting out before them. The potential this game had to give COD a run for its money was lost thanks to all of these bugs.

Well hold up there! CoD is still the same thing since 2007, Battlefield was great, shrunk and got smaller and now grown again, at least it's changing. Anyway Battlefield has "one-uped" CoD since CoD even existed, just it wasn't on the same platforms or "popular" like CoD grew to be.

Guest said:

CODG vs BF4 : 1 - 0

JC713 JC713 said:

If I were DICE, I would give the Second Assault DLC free. Or even make BFBC2 or something free for others who dont have it. A scope for the M1911 is a joke. The double XP was nice though. I ranked up a lot.

My problem with BF4 currently is the amount of lag I get. The game says I have severe packet loss (in game performance tester) and pingtest.net says I have no packet loss.

I really hope Battlefront 3 is good.

Finally, I really hope the rumor of a yearly release of Battlefield by another developer isnt true because if it is, I will never buy a BF game again.

Guest said:

I had the same experience except that I have played for 6 hour sessions.

Pre purchased the game and am about 40 hours invested in multiplayer already. I crashed a few times but no more than CoD or other games at launch.

Problems I have noticed:

-The rubber banding is rare but does happen

-The netcode issue is a problem and their claim to have fixed it did not work. I didnt understand how this was impacting my play until I researched it and was like "oh, that happens all the time". Everyone has the same disadvantage though.

-Sometimes I do not show up as active in the battlelog makeing it hard for my friends to join on me

-When in tanks or other vehicles the sound will just turn off and all I will hear is gunfire for a bit

Other than that its been a great experience and I love the game. Always been a huge BF fan since 1942. Didnt care for BF3 very much, always felt like it was missing something. This game feels complete, just need some bug fixes and they are dedicated to fixing them unlike some other companies. Overall, from my perspective on an above average pc playing on Ultra, I would like to say everyone is over exaggerating but it looks like most of the complaints come from the console versions which I have not played.

gingerbill said:

Playing BF4 on PS4 , all I can say is it looks lovely and I have had no lag at all. The only complaint I've had is 64 player servers need improving as they not smooth. It looks light years ahead of its competitor. Not sure why I only see negative stories on techspot about it . If you look at it side by side with COD , COD looks like dreadful.

EClyde EClyde said:

You guys just keep coming back for more. If I was EA I would get sex if I could then worry about the consequences later. I'm sorry Sweetheart...you know I LOVE You.

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