You may remember our recent discussion on the new "Spotlight" search feature due to hit future releases of Mac OS X, and that Microsoft have been planning something similar for Longhorn.

It already looks like MS and Apple are ready to start a a mud slinging match of "who-invented-the-cool-stuff-first".

"Apple threw down the gauntlet earlier this week with the Tiger banners displayed prominently at the Worldwide Apple Developer Conference. "Introducing Longhorn: Redmond, Start Your Photocopiers," they proclaimed."

"They're copying our concepts," whined Apple CEO Jobs to the New York Times. "I'd kind of like to get credit some time."

Kind of getting boring, this kind of talk. Isn't it? IMHO, none of you invented anything first, except new and better ways to promote your market dominance.

kind of deja vu if you ask me. Didn't this all happen once before, when apple stole a gui from (was it xerox or TI) then MS stole it from apple.

Xerox

And lets not forget that OS X is based on FreeBSD.

"Think different"

By making everything the same.

Oh god, is this a soap opra now or what.. apple can go blow an apple for all I care.

Apple obviously won't last very much longer anyway. The only think keeping them afloat is the illiterate users who just happen to go with a Mac, and the users who are still left using Mac's for Photoshop and other graphics applications.

Not to mention what some people love to call "neat looking" desktops, which I consider to be nothing more than a plastic peice of junk with fruity colors, but I guess it has come down to the public buying computers for nothing more than the "visual appeal".

Everything i've ever read about this issue tends to say that it's always MS who ends up copying from apple, regardless of wether apple had already copied from anywhere else.
The sure fact, no credit is given anywhere

The only credit MS ever gives is the money to buy a company that developed something they want (i.e. Excel, Visio, VirtualPC and so on)

I hope you're all dissing Mac in favor of Linux, rather than in favor of Microsoft.

Otherwise, you have absolutely no ground to stand on.

Can't we all just get along ?

I don't see why so many people hate Apple with a passion. You don't like it ? Fine, don't use it, don't talk about it, heck pretend it's not even there.

Whenever there's a thread about Apple, all the Mac haters drop in.

LoL...Thats a bit too far.

In regards to 'Graphic' programs like Photoshop, A Mac can no longer hold it's ground VS. a higher end (not highest end...) PC. With all the DDR and DDR2 in quantities of 512MB and 1GB, Photoshop is conisderably faster and easier to use. (Take that macintosh keyboard! I'm right-clicking!)

That being said,Adobe Premier definitely runs a lot better on a Mac than a PC. It just seems to work better on a Mac, Period.

Strakien is right! Go re-read that!

Also didou, its hard to pretend Mac isnt even "there" when its on the TS homepage. Plus this is disscussion more than argument, as of now anyways.

If your editing movies, I can understand you having a Mac, even though you should still have a PC, but its understandable, but for all else...

Apple sells some sexy gear and you haters are lying to yourselves and everyone else when you dis' it. As far as the industrial design of their products, every one is slick looking-(even if the imac is a little fey).

I am not against Macs as product. I am just against their marketing machine. They are just as or even more deceiving than Microsoft.

I'm just against Steve Jobs- he's alot like Ralph Nader- poking his nose into situations where he's neither needed or wanted.

let's not add politics to this Godataloss... I'll give Mac one thing other than the Premier... That commercial they had with the dude making faces at the iMac in the window was pretty clever... the one where the iMac sticks its CD tray out at him... that's pretty genius. haha.

I still won't buy one, but that's because one of my Fav mags did a fair comparison of a Mac and a full blown PC about 6 months ago or something... we'll just say it wasn't pretty...

(The mag was MaxPC btw)

That I know, but there are still those hardcore Mac users who still claim Mac's are graphics Gods.

Yes acidosmosis, that propaganda really is a thing of the past.

And this is especially true since Apple has ditched their RISC architecture in favor of 64-bit CISC

PCs can be substantially faster (with the proper configuration) and can perform a wide variety tasks using many softwares that simply isn't available for Mac.

Mac can do anything that PC does, but with all software available for PCs, you can find something that does the job just as well or even better than Mac.

The exception I found is Adobe Premiere. It crashes too often on PC. hehe. That's Adobe's fault if anything though.