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Old 01-22-2003
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What's the highest temp for AMD 2100+

I need to know what's the highest temp for the AMD Athlon XP 2100+ cpu. Mine is working on 60-65 C and I heard that it's too high.
I can't find the info anywhere.
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Old 01-22-2003
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Well it depends on the motherboard as temperature measuring varies from board to board. Some say that the under the CPU sensor can be 30C out from the actually core internal temperature so I would think >60 is starting to get to dangerous levels.
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Old 01-22-2003
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I guess it's time for a new cooling unit. Any recomandations? (I'm a little short on cash at the moment- any "Magical " deals you know?)
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Old 01-22-2003
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Depends on your location in the world whether I know of any deals or not... Check the TechSpot pricegrabber and www.pricewatch.com for US prices.

I think my gigabyte EasyTune4 software for my motherboard defaults to a CPU temperature limit of 60C! So its a good figure to try and stay under for a healthy CPU. Currently my 2100+ @ default speed underload is about 54C, but I'm transferring it to an aluminium case with better airflow to reduce the temps a little.

What airflow do you have in your case? Its generally recommended to have one intake fan and one exhaust although the system I have just now only has an exhaust :eek:

I generally recommend having a look at www.frostytech.com as you can listen to a sound sample of the HSF in action and they have very good test parameters to insure fair comparisons of equipment.
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Old 01-22-2003
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To fry an Athlon, the "official" limit is something like 90*C.

Operable temperature? Seems to vary, but I wouldn't trust anything above 70*C for stability reasons.
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Old 01-22-2003
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Should be moved to Cooling forum...

Anyway, this thread should help. Guy has the same problem. Definitely get a couple $5 case fans, and maybe a better heatsink if you have the money. I presume you're using the stock heatsink? Try a 3g tube of Arctic Silver 3 for $5 as well.
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Old 01-22-2003
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I also have a Athlon XP 2100+ - it runs at about 58 to 62°C - stock hsf - and thermal pad !

I definitely plan to get the cooling improved - better airflow in case, hsf, and Artic Silver III.

But I'm upgrading my video card first, and so I lack money

Basically read the above thread.
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Yeah, money is the problem.

You had better all get yourselves jobs as computer technicians and then you can swap your out of date parts for newer ones when people aren't looking
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Old 01-22-2003
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Thanks all, some good help here. I didn't see teh cooling forum until after I posted but yes Vehementi the forum should be moved there....
I'll work on somethink next week.
Will drilling some holes in my crappy case help? I am REALLY broke. Damn student life.
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Old 01-22-2003
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I wouldn't break out the drill just yet, but you might try a few things with the fan configuration to help airflow. How many case fans do you have? Do you have any extras lying around or could you spare the $ to buy one or two if needed?

I would recommend a fan in front blowing into the case. The PSU fan should blow out. Mount another fan near the PSU(there is probably a template or grille in this area already) it should also blow out. A blowhole in the side panel would also be good(blowing out) Make sure you have good airflow throughout the case. move the cables out of the way as good as you can(or round them)

Oh, one more thing, if the case is near the heating vent in the room, MOVE IT.
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Old 01-22-2003
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I did actually have it near the heating when I just bought it but I turned the heating off!
I think I'll get a case fan cause I don't have one and there seems to be a space for it. The point is that my pc is in my bedroom and I usually have it on during the night so noie is also an issue. But I guess cpu health is a bigger issue, so I'll get a fan.
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Old 01-22-2003
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Im going to use metric for the first time since college so here goes. My processor normally runs at 63C and up to 72C while gaming. Its been that way for a year. Ive never had a crash or any instablilty except for when my northbridge fan failed.
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That's probably because you're overclocking, vegas.
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Old 01-23-2003
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May I recommend you a HSF, its a Thermaltake Volcano 7 Cu+ with copper heat sink. It a nice HSF with a switch to control the fan speed. There actually 3 modes, Low, Medium and High. Its a 6800rpm max i think. If you leave the pc on during the night, you would want to lower down the fan speed through the switch, provided if you mod your case to enable the switch accessiblefrom the exterior of the case.
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Old 01-25-2003
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Thanks young&wild, looks like a gret HSF and I think I might get it but I'll have to wait as it's a bit pricey for me at the moment.
StormBringer: I got a case fan and set it to the back right behind the cpu. My temps went down a few degrees but I need more!

How can I add a front fan if my case doesn't have an opening?
I only have some holes on the side panel.
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Old 01-25-2003
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Btw, I DO have a fan that is supposed to be for my cpu, Glacialtech Iglo. how come it's not doing it's job???
Is there any way to control the fan speed? it's running on 3292-3310 rpm.
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Old 01-25-2003
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That's strange, your heatsink is really good, yet it isn't doing that good of a job?

Did you change the fan on the HSF? This review I'm reading of it states it should be a 70x15mm 5000 RPM fan, not 3300. Perhaps it's a different model.

Got a link or a pic of your case? We could find other places to put the fans. You definitely need more.

And Arctic Silver 3!
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Old 01-25-2003
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Yeah I will get Arctic Sillver! I'll have a pic for tomorrow.
No I didn't change anything on the HSF, It's Iglo 2310 just as I got it.
Maybe I put it on the wrong power source? Even though I don't htink so. Could that be why it runs low?
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Old 01-25-2003
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Nope, checked the GTECH site and it says the the fan speed is
3000 +- 20%.
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Old 01-25-2003
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When mounting a fan to the front: Are there any kind of slits or anything that air can get through, it may not look like holes. Look at the inside front of the case and see if you find either two or four tabs sticking out spaced about the distance that a case fan will fit in it. This would be where to mount the front fan, just mount it blowing into the case.
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