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Old 02-24-2007
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Why have cooling when you could have freezing.. literally!

Has anyone ever considered, or even tried using a modified freezer as a PC case.. or do they exist already?

Just an interesting thought a friend and I came up with. Would it be possible or are there certain implications that would cause problems.. such as possible water vapor (though it'd be too cold for that, right?) or the fact that it's completely air sealed.

Just think of those low low temperatures!!!
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The water would ruin the computer. The parts would run so hot that even if the case was at -10C, the parts might get up to 5-10C and melt the ice. They DO have air conditioned cases though.
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Ah, I understand.. since freezers are designed to freeze food.. something that doesn't produce it's own heat!

Air conditioned sounds fun any examples around?
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Old 02-24-2007
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A safer idea is using a water cooling system, and putting the Reservoir in the freezer, and using mixture of anti-freeze and water to cool it. Even then their will still be a condensation problem.
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Old 02-24-2007
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But what if one was to modify the freezer to give it some ventilation, of course this might cause the motor to burn out (I think) since it'll be working extra hard to keep it's temp down....

But what if one was to modify the motor!!!

I really don't have much of an idea on how freezers work, so I'm just presuming possibilities, here
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Old 02-25-2007
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Hmm, if you really, really wanted to keep a CPU cold, use a Peltier
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Old 02-25-2007
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A safer idea is using a water cooling system, and putting the Reservoir in the freezer, and using mixture of anti-freeze and water to cool it. Even then their will still be a condensation problem.
Just put some insulation around all of the pipes and it should work.

VapoChill is another option for ice cold computing.

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I would personaly never trust any kind of watercooling that was not pretty much 100% guaranteed to not leak in my system. I'm just paranoid that way. That's fine though as nothing in my computer is loud except the GPU fan which sounds like it's going to go into orbit if I unscrewed the screw holding the card in the slot.
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In reality you can never be 100% sure of anything.

If you don't want leaks, use compression fittings.
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I would personaly never trust any kind of watercooling that was not pretty much 100% guaranteed to not leak in my system.
I completely understand. I was to afraid to put my asetec waterchill in my new system because i was afraid of it leaking. I went out and bought a zalman hsf instead.

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If you don't want leaks, use compression fittings.
I've tried that, but it doesn't do anything for the pump. All the leaks i have had have been from the pump.

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Hmm, if you really, really wanted to keep a CPU cold, use a Peltier
You have to watercool a peltier for it to be efficient.
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Old 02-27-2007
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I would personaly never trust any kind of watercooling that was not pretty much 100% guaranteed to not leak in my system.
That's why distilled water is used, and good watercooling setups have safety methods for turning the computer off if the water flow goes too low.
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Old 02-27-2007
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I would personally never trust any kind of watercooling that was not pretty much 100% guaranteed to not leak in my system.
no water cooling kit can guarantee that it won't leak.

you can however take steps to help ensure a leak free system (or at least prevent leaks from loose hose connections. if you buy a water cooling kit and it has cheap plastic clamps (or perhaps no clamps at all) then you should replace them with a screw/band clamp like this:
even a loose fitting hose can usually be clamped tight enough to seal when you use a screw/band clamp.

note: if it uses compression fittings, then the clamping takes place inside the fitting, and thus a clamp is not necessary.

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They once used liquid Nitrogen on a Pentium 4 CPU and overclocked it from stock ~2.XGHz to 7.0GHz and it was still ~-15F after the overclock
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No, it was stock 3200MHz I believe. And it was like -129C. Pentium 4 540 3.2GHz @ 7.125 GHz... LOL imagine putting that in your signature.

The clock speed was so high that even the Core 2 Extreme X6800 is slower than it in superpi, even overclocked.
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Old 02-27-2007
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No, it was stock 3200MHz I believe. And it was like -129C. Pentium 4 540 3.2GHz @ 7.125 GHz... LOL imagine putting that in your signature.

The clock speed was so high that even the Core 2 Extreme X6800 is slower than it in superpi, even overclocked.
thats just amazing....only if my MoBo ddnt have that darn watch dog, it shuts my system down when i get it to around 3.2Ghz and ive read that my processor is capable of 4.0
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I've only hit 3.1GHz on a Celeron 331, but I only had stock cooling anyway .
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I've only hit 3.1GHz on a Celeron 331, but I only had stock cooling anyway .
yea im running about 2.8Ghz right now(running at 22C at the moment) its seems the most stable there with stock cooling...but my stupid OC protection wont let me go past 3.2
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I've never seen that before ...there must be a way to turn it off. Apparantly Biostar didn't know that you could safely push a Celeron that high...or they just want you to spend more money on a better CPU .
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I've never seen that before ...there must be a way to turn it off. Apparantly Biostar didn't know that you could safely push a Celeron that high...or they just want you to spend more money on a better CPU .
lol yea well i am planning on upgrading my CPU to a 3.4 Pentium D when i get the extra cash anyways, but still id like to at least run at 3.0 stable until then... i wrote Biostar about how to disable the OC protection but they never responded
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Old 02-27-2007
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Someone got 8Ghz, if you dont beleive me ill look for the link it was on a new Cedar Mill.
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