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Old 06-11-2007
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I know it, because that's what I always do
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Old 06-12-2007
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What about the space the VMware takes?
You said that the virtual PC can be ran on any computer that as the VMware servre installed, but how much weight the files you have to brought with you for that, the ones that has all the XP file and such that you can only put back to recover a working virtual PC?
Can we transport our virtual PC on a USB drive and use it everywhere?
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Old 06-12-2007
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Well, I installed XP on it (nothing worked out good, all classic looks) and a 4gig hard drive on it, and told it to make the hard drive as I add stuff, and took 2 gigs with nothing installed.
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Old 06-12-2007
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*off-topic* Hey mopar man, didn't your name used to be mopar man 44?
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Old 06-12-2007
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*off topic* and weren't you in IRC chat the other night as mopar man 44?
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Old 06-13-2007
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Yes, I asked if they could change it. http://www.techspot.com/vb/topic79186.html
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Old 07-04-2007
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Originally Posted by Phantasm66
You create a virtual machine, which is like an actual real machine, complete with BIOS and everything, and then you install XP in that, yes.

So, you wind up with XP running on your machine, and XP running inside a virtual machine running on XP running on your machine. You can then surf with the VM XP, knowing that you can just discard this VM if it becomes compromised.

Its really quite secure, since to the VM, the host OS is just another machine on the network, it has a firewall, etc.

Not just for XP as a VM, though. You can run Linux inside a VM, have access to the command line, tools, etc, but still be able to surf the Net, use e-mail, games etc on your XP host OS.

Its the future.



You have to install XP in the VM as if it was onto a newly built machine ; you then have to install applications onto XP as normal, yes.

The only difference between the VM and a real machine is that the VM exists only as some files, and runs on any machine that has VMware installed.

Vmware is available in many flavours, some are free and it runs on Windows and Linux, and is coming to the Mac. VMs created on Vmware under Windows run on Vmware on Linux and vice versa.
Would it be jsut as safe if you did it in reverse?

Say you use your main machine O.S. to browse dodgy sites, and then start up the virtual machine when accessing important websites.
Last edited by oceanic; 07-04-2007 at 01:37 PM..
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Old 07-04-2007
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No, that would most definitely not do.
If your main machine was infected, then your internet access, importatnt system files may all be affected. The virtual machine runs within the main machine, so it would not be wise to run it that way.

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  #29  
Old 07-09-2007
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Pff i m conused.Do i connect to a server or what.and how its free. :/
  #30  
Old 07-09-2007
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VMware server is free to download and use. Just stick to that.

Its not CPU intensive (you know a lot of the time your CPU is doing very little in an OS) but it is RAM hungry, the more the better if you get into running VMs, especially several at once.

I've got 512 ddr ram and my system already drags and cries for more. I am assuming a VR software would not be the best thing till i double my ram?
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Old 07-10-2007
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It depends solely on what OS with how much RAM you intend to run inside the VM.

If you want to run DOS, then dedicating some ~32MB of system RAM to that is not going to be a problem. (But your CPU will start to melt, since DOS does not have CPU idling functionality.)
If you intend to run two copies of Windows XP in that 512MB of RAM, then that will probably hurt a lot. You'd want to triple your RAM to make these beasts happy.
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Old 07-20-2007
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This May Ruin the Flow But......
Wouldn't Firefox, Macafee Site Advisor, and "NoScript" get you about 90% of the way to where you're going with this? I'm laboring under the assumption that this is reasonably sturdy porn site proofing. Be gentle with me, I'm only asking.
Last edited by captaincranky; 07-20-2007 at 08:17 PM..
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Old 08-17-2007
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alot of anti-virus programs are using virtual machines to detect viruses before definitions have been created. The anti-virus program I know that uses that is Bitdefender. But as far as virtual machines, I think the idea is a create idea, why risk firewalls and anti-virus scans and updates when you can keep your machine completely safe knowing it cannot attack your system.
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Old 08-17-2007
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I'll probably try this on another computer to see how it is, I don't look at pr0n like you said but I do go on the internet and download stuff ( mostly demos of games and stuff )

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Wouldn't Firefox, Macafee Site Advisor, and "NoScript" get you about 90% of the way to where you're going with this? I'm laboring under the assumption that this is reasonably sturdy porn site proofing. Be gentle with me, I'm only asking.
Well... sortof, NoSCRIPT is what I use, it blocks every site from launching scripts like java and activeX unless I say so, Plus if you browse the internet with Firefox and some security knowledge you should be able to stay secured from most things
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Old 09-01-2007
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alot of anti-virus programs are using virtual machines to detect viruses before definitions have been created. The anti-virus program I know that uses that is Bitdefender.
They use limited virtualization and emulation/sandbox techniques. Not a full blown vm, can you imagine how long it would take (not to mention the bloat) if they used vmware or virtualpc for this for scanning of files...
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Old 09-03-2007
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Do you normally have to reactivate Windows XP even though it is a virtual machine?
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Old 09-11-2007
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Old 09-11-2007
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Would it be possible to keep in on a flash drive, get linux on the flash drive too, then I can VM anywhere? Which file should I install? the first one (~21mbs) or the second one (~146mb) on the website? Also, inside the ~21mb .zip file there are 4 .exes. Which one to install on flash drive if it is the first one?
Last edited by ChrisLam; 09-11-2007 at 07:12 PM..
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Old 09-12-2007
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Do you normally have to reactivate Windows XP even though it is a virtual machine?
You need a completely seperare license for each vm.
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Old 09-12-2007
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