AMD confirms Zen 4 and RDNA 3 remain on track to launch next year

wiyosaya

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Downplay upcoming Intel/Microsoft/NVIDIA/Apple product...
Praise AMD's upcoming product.

That logic never made sense to me.
Waiting for reviews does.
I'm confused. Did I say that AMD is going to kick intel's azz? Did I even allude to what may or may not be performance results? No you say? I am not on board with the big/small core tack. If that tack is good for you, that's your prerogative. I won't restate my opinion about Intel's tactics there.

Is the big/small core tack supposed to be for the gamer that also watches you tube at the same time as they playing games? In case you missed it, I alluded to AMD following Intel through the door of astronomical "enthusiast" processor prices, which, I am not happy about.
 

hahahanoobs

Posts: 3,612   +1,716
I'm confused. Did I say that AMD is going to kick intel's azz? Did I even allude to what may or may not be performance results? No you say? I am not on board with the big/small core tack. If that tack is good for you, that's your prerogative. I won't restate my opinion about Intel's tactics there.

Is the big/small core tack supposed to be for the gamer that also watches you tube at the same time as they playing games? In case you missed it, I alluded to AMD following Intel through the door of astronomical "enthusiast" processor prices, which, I am not happy about.
Read my post again.
 

jpuroila

Posts: 372   +225
Yeah sure Lisa: "RDNA 3" can "remain in track" all you want if you haven't been able to sell A SINGLE RDNA 2 card at MSRP and you're getting killed in the steam survey.

It's pretty damn easy to keep "releasing" products when all you have are paper launches for all your GPUs.
Yes, the fact that you're selling all you can produce and then some is a GREAT reason to stop all R&D. Have you already gotten your job offer from Intel?
 

nnguy2

Posts: 308   +610
Yes, the fact that you're selling all you can produce and then some is a GREAT reason to stop all R&D. Have you already gotten your job offer from Intel?
Lol incredibly bad take by Dmitry. I'm glad everyone saw how bad of an argument that was and is calling him out.
 

daveteauk

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That's a common cop-out: They absolutely *do* have control of the price if they had any control whatsoever of supply. And part of "control" implies NOT LAUNCHING BEFORE YOU HAVE SUFFICIENT PARTS TO SELL which is precisely what Lisa refuses to do: No delays, we don't care about actually producing cards, we're just careless engineers that create the parts entirely in theory and don't make any business decisions based on the reality of our overwhelmed foundry partner(s).

And all of this was BEFORE there was even any pandemic or mining-craze related issues. This was just Lisa deciding "Yes we need to release RDNA 2.0 right when we're also releasing Ryzen 5000 and not one but TWO brand new consoles" basically saying "I don't care if we want like 4x or 5x more chips out of TSMC than what we would usually get I'm sure they'll figure something out"

Just, no: Stop making excuses for AMD. If they can't get enough chips fabricated because they have too many other products and not enough allocated capacity with foundries, that's fine. It's a shame but it's better than endless, pointless, stupid paper launches.


I went out of my way to exclude Ryzen 5000 series from my comment for a reason: I know that went fairly well. In fact I am sure Lisa is actively sacrificing RDNA 2.0 dedicated space just to get more Ryzen 5000 chips out of the gate since they probably consider that a more worthwhile market. This isn't a bad choice by the way it's what they have to do if there's just not enough fab nodes to go around.

Just be honest about it.
Dimitriid - you seem to have no understanding of business, or manufacturing. Your comments are not just dumb, but incredibly nieve. To ask a company, ANY company producing anything, to not sell the product they've been sinking money into, until they THINK they have enough IN STOCK to supply PROJECTED demand, is a recipe for the road to bankrupcy. ANY company doing as you suggest would go under in no time. If YOU owned a company that's producing a product that will be in high demand, and you can only make, say, 5k units per week, but you THINK you have 100,000 people ready to buy, YOU would hold back selling, and not begin to recouperate your costs immideately, instead you would wait for MONTHS to begin selling??? That is crazy in the extreme, and if YOU were in charge of that business, you would either be fired or your business would go under.
You also seem to have no idea of the 5000 series launch/availability either! Only a very very small amount of people got ANY 5000 series CPUs at launch, so where you get the idea that it 'went fairly well' from is anyones guess. At 2pm here in the UK the 5000 series went on sale. At 2:10 they were ALL sold. ALL. I was in a 'basket queue' and paid for my 5900x at 2:07 on Nov 5th. I didn't receive my 5900x until APRIL 2021. If you think that is going well, it convinces me you live in cloud cuckoo land.
THAT is the HONEST, and REAL situation which you are oblivious to.
 

HardReset

Posts: 1,240   +898
You also seem to have no idea of the 5000 series launch/availability either! Only a very very small amount of people got ANY 5000 series CPUs at launch, so where you get the idea that it 'went fairly well' from is anyones guess. At 2pm here in the UK the 5000 series went on sale. At 2:10 they were ALL sold. ALL. I was in a 'basket queue' and paid for my 5900x at 2:07 on Nov 5th. I didn't receive my 5900x until APRIL 2021. If you think that is going well, it convinces me you live in cloud cuckoo land.
THAT is the HONEST, and REAL situation which you are oblivious to.
There was absolutely nothing wrong with Ryzen 5000 launch:

AMD shipped close to 1 million units of its Ryzen 5000 series CPUs during Q4 2020, as PC builders struggled to buy the chips, a research firm estimates.

The shipment volume is over two times more than AMD’s previous largest ramp-up for a new desktop processor, according to Mercury Research, which tracks CPU shipments. “The Ryzen 5000 supply ramp was record-breaking for AMD by a very wide margin,” President Dean McCarron told us in an email.

AMD "went from zero to nearly a million units or roughly 20% of their desktop shipments in under three months—that's fast,” he said. “It's really just a case of demand far outstripping supply, which is pretty much universal for most CPUs right now.”
"Very very small amount of people" = twice as many vs any AMD CPU launch before, including Zen/Ryzen 1000 and Zen2/Ryzen 3000 series :D