AMD Ryzen 5 7600X Review: Mainstream Zen 4

If you want the best on AM4 platform, yes.
Otherwise 5600x can work just fine up to rtx3080.
I dont want more than 3070 or 3070ti perf for this platform, PCIE 4.
I have 5600x with rx 6800, and I'm at playing 2560x1440. I get what you are saying, unless I go for one of the new gpus, changing the cpu will not bring the same percentage of improvements as seen in reviews using rtx3900ti.
 
How come there is no slowdown measured if memory speed is supposed to drop down to 3600 if all 4 DIMMs are used?

On the other hand, when 4800 is compared to 6000, there is a noticeable difference.
 

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How come there is no slowdown measured if memory speed is supposed to drop down to 3600 if all 4 DIMMs are used?

On the other hand, when 4800 is compared to 6000, there is a noticeable difference.
Well, if your talking about DDR5 I believe the standard speed is 4800. And I’ve heard that some mobos and/or memory cannot be overclocked when 4 sticks are used. I assume that it has to do with quality of the circuits. Some can’t reliably handle the speed.

To the extent that impacts an application or game is dependent on the app/game. Most games won’t see a huge difference but some will. And if you looked at benchmarks you would see the differences. There was an article here on TS that did a good review of that.
 
Well, if your talking about DDR5 I believe the standard speed is 4800. And I’ve heard that some mobos and/or memory cannot be overclocked when 4 sticks are used. I assume that it has to do with quality of the circuits. Some can’t reliably handle the speed.

To the extent that impacts an application or game is dependent on the app/game. Most games won’t see a huge difference but some will. And if you looked at benchmarks you would see the differences. There was an article here on TS that did a good review of that.
AMD's official memory specification for Zen 4 is DDR5-5200 as we've already noted, but that's for a 1 DPC configuration, in other words when using two memory modules. For a 2 DPC configuration, so when populating all four DIMM slots, the frequency drops to just DDR5-3600, and this sounds quite alarming.

So, my question still stands - if speed is supposed to drop to 3600 with 4 DIMMs, why the test from the article doesn't show that?
 

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I don't think that I'd ever call a Ryzen 5 an "i9 killer" because they're not in competition with each other. An "i9 killer" would be AT LEAST a Ryzen 7 and far more likely a Ryzen 9 or Threadripper. It should say "i5 killer" because that's what it's aimed at. The number 5 should be your first clue! :laughing:
 
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waclark

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AMD's official memory specification for Zen 4 is DDR5-5200 as we've already noted, but that's for a 1 DPC configuration, in other words when using two memory modules. For a 2 DPC configuration, so when populating all four DIMM slots, the frequency drops to just DDR5-3600, and this sounds quite alarming.

So, my question still stands - if speed is supposed to drop to 3600 with 4 DIMMs, why the test from the article doesn't show that?
My assumption is that they used Expo and overclocked the memory. That's what's confusing about DDR5. There is the stated max but you have the ability to overclock the memory and get higher speeds. I have read some articles that claim DDR5-6000 is the sweet spot for Zen 4.
 
I read that AMD statement about this.......what can they say: it's not a bug it's a feature.
This is a nice toaster, indeed a nice toaster.

The raptor lake chips have been shown to hit 100c and thermal throttle, it’s also been shown that the 7000 series doesn’t lose much performance with lesser cooler. It looks like if you want a K or X series chip, you’re gonna have to think about cooling weather you go intel or AMD
I read that AMD statement about this.......what can they say: it's not a bug it's a feature.
This is a nice toaster, indeed a nice toaster.
I read that AMD statement about this.......what can they say: it's not a bug it's a feature.
This is a nice toaster, indeed a nice toaster.
I read that AMD statement about this.......what can they say: it's not a bug it's a feature.
This is a nice toaster, indeed a nice toaster.
Did people learn nothing from socket AM4? AMD promised "support until 2020" then tried to back out TWICE, once on 3000 support for 300 series boards, then again for 5000 series support on both 300 and 400 series boards. It took mass public backlash and for the poor 300 series boards over half a year of waiting to get BETA AGESA code.

So when AMD says support until 2025, I can guarantee that in 2 years we'll be seeing the same behavior from AMD of trying to lock out older chipsets and "oh well we meant the socket not the chipset" BS from them.

The perf itself looks nice, but those temps are just crazy. Hitting 95c on an AIO means anyone who wants water cooling or a smaller case is likely to see little to no perf gain over zen 3 due to clock throttling with zen 4.
Did people learn nothing from socket AM4? AMD promised "support until 2020" then tried to back out TWICE, once on 3000 support for 300 series boards, then again for 5000 series support on both 300 and 400 series boards. It took mass public backlash and for the poor 300 series boards over half a year of waiting to get BETA AGESA code.

So when AMD says support until 2025, I can guarantee that in 2 years we'll be seeing the same behavior from AMD of trying to lock out older chipsets and "oh well we meant the socket not the chipset" BS from them.

The perf itself looks nice, but those temps are just crazy. Hitting 95c on an AIO means anyone who wants water cooling or a smaller case is likely to see little to no perf gain over zen 3 due to clock throttling with zen 4.