AMD's Ryzen 5000 series gets price cut in wake of Alder Lake launch

wiyosaya

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Yet all of these games runs when you go to bios switch Legacy Game Compatibility Mode to ON.... Then before your start game toggle Scroll Lock key ON.
Very simple

Also, most of these games are either old or not worth playing (Far Cry Primal, Fishing Sim World ! LOL)... It won't matter for future since all games will run out of the box.... While these "few" games will just need the method I mentioned which is very simple (clicking on scroll key before you start game is not hard)

I don't see any issue here at all cause the fix is very simple..... But if you are AMD fanboy then obviously you want it to look like a big problem
Ah yes, just turn off the performance and efficiency "improving" cores. That's the ticket - to showing that they are just sIntel "glue". Or perhaps it's sIntel desperation since they have no other moves to make. Talk about fanboyism.
 

hahahanoobs

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I doubt OEM's will have trouble getting motherboards. That's where the big money comes from. Not DIY.

Ryzen has been on sale for the last few weeks in Canada. Lots of stock nationwide. $20 to $110 off.
 

Theinsanegamer

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Yep AMD has not officially lowered prices, however I expect they will soon or sales will slow down to a hold.

300 dollars for a 5600X is far too much. No wonder that Intel took alot of desktop marketshare back with chips like 10400 and 11400, they beat AMD on value.

And 12400 looks to do exactly the same thing. Sub 200 dollars for 5600X beating performance. AMD is forced to lower prices very soon.

12600K smashes 5600X for the same price, even with DDR4, especially outside of gaming.
At its worst you could buy a 11400, motherboard, and 3200mhz memory kit for less then a 5600x cpu.

I remember when AMD ryzen 8 cores were $279. The price bloat is unjustifyable, we are moving backwards towards the $300 quad core days.

The 5600x should have been a $200 part, and hopefully with alderlake we see prices drop. That 12400 looks juicy.
 

maroon1

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And that was coming from someone who was also commenting about "AMD Fanboyism". :rolleyes:🤣

Back on topic, competition is a good thing.

Another guy who think that Legacy Game Compatibility Mode and Legacy Bios is same thing !!🤣
 
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maroon1

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Ah yes, just turn off the performance and efficiency "improving" cores. That's the ticket - to showing that they are just sIntel "glue". Or perhaps it's sIntel desperation since they have no other moves to make. Talk about fanboyism.

I wonder how temporary turning off E cores on these few old games is going to effect you anyway ?? After you enable Legacy Game Compatibility mode just one time, all you need is to toggle Scroll Lock key ON. And then turn it off after you finish playing..... It is very simple !!
 

bviktor

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Can you explain why prices are always high in Australia? It's close to asian countries which makes the products. Does the government rip you off? 😑

It's because we live in the year 2021 and people with complete access to the Internet still fail to realize that "dollar" != USD. There' like 30 currencies that are denoted as "dollars", the USD being just one of them. And AUD is another, different one. 1 USD is worth around 1.35 AUD, so the original MSRP of 450 USD equals around 605 AUD.

To add to the confusion, US prices are almost always before taxes (due to them being different in pretty much every state), while the rest of the world usually shows them after taxes (I.e. VAT), at least in retail stores. The current VAT rate for most products sold in Australia is 10%, so that would translate to 665 AUD, meaning their current price of 630 AUD is actually generous compared to US pricing.

Regarding the current price decrease, it's rather obvious that it won't come down to all other countries INSTANTLY. It didn't decrease in my country either just yet, boo.

Canadians are the other notorious bunch who always complain about higher prices while in reality their prices are most of time either equal, or actually lower. They just conveniently "forget" to convert the price to CAD.

And no, 10% VAT is nowhere near outstanding. The highest VAT rates are mostly found in the EU, 27% being the highest (both in the EU and worldwide).
 
This is why all of those articles coming out saying that Intel was done and AMD will lead for the next decade were wrong. Intel definitely got complacent and paid the price, but now they're turning things around VERY quickly, and they're investing heavily in new fabs.

If I had to guess, we'll have another 5 years of good competition before Intel walks away from AMD again.
 

Mr Majestyk

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Can you explain why prices are always high in Australia? It's close to asian countries which makes the products. Does the government rip you off? 😑

Look we have a 40% mor0n tax in a Australia whereby people just accept it as a fact of life. Luxury cars are often 200% dearer than in US. Our government doesn't give a sh!t either.
 

Tommis

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If 5800X price will really fall below €300 in EU, I'll buy one (to replace my current 5600X) not because I want or need to upgrade, but just because it's so cheap 🤑
 
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GeforcerFX

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Dang wish there was a microcenter near me they have the 5600g on sale for $200, I got a good deal on newegg with the sale price to $240 and the $10 off code so $230 shipped and this thing is a major improvement for me.
 

amoeba00

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I just spent $200 for a 5600G to replace a 2600X in an older x470 motherboard. I'm happy with the performance boost and lower temps for the price.

Say what you will about which CPU brand is better, I'm a huge fan of being able to upgrade for a nominal amount without also having to replace the motherboard.
 

Yenega

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If 5800X price will really fall below €300 in EU, I'll buy one (to replace my current 5600X) not because I want or need to upgrade, but just because it's so cheap 🤑
Black Friday incoming, there will 100% be cheap Ryzen 5000 chips and probably boards + memory bundles too.

Not only because of Alder Lake but also because of Ryzen 5000 refresh soon
 

Yenega

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Look we have a 40% mor0n tax in a Australia whereby people just accept it as a fact of life. Luxury cars are often 200% dearer than in US. Our government doesn't give a sh!t either.
Do you have free health care? Or what does the money go to
 

HyperPete

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This is why I went for a 5700 XT when I built my new PC in Jan 2021. The 5950 was around $1000 IF you could find it. Now it's time to sell my old CPU and buy the 5950.

Display adapter is next, when prices drop and there is availability.
 

fadingfool

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I wonder how temporary turning off E cores on these few old games is going to effect you anyway ?? After you enable Legacy Game Compatibility mode just one time, all you need is to toggle Scroll Lock key ON. And then turn it off after you finish playing..... It is very simple !!
[Cough] only if the motherboard OEM has issued the BIOS update and the patches are WIN11 only - sorry WIN10 fans. Yes this is a new platform teething trouble and should be fixed in an update (though I still can't play Agents of Mayhem on my skylake-X CPU - though some might see that as an advantage) - but given Intel's resources it is slightly embarrassing for them.
 
Can you explain why prices are always high in Australia? It's close to asian countries which makes the products. Does the government rip you off? 😑

There are several reasons, with proximity to Asia not being one of them. Unless you are using airfreight, if you are on the worldwide container network, it costs the same to within a few percentage points to send a container from one port to any other location in the world. E.g. sending a 20ft container from Taiwan to Los Angeles or New York, London, Stockholm, Berlin, Moscow, Paris, Cape Town, Delhi, Sydney, Auckland is roughly the same price.

The major drivers are volume, local customizations, and tighter consumer/merchantability laws than somewhere like the US. For example, being a smaller market, they can't use volume to cover costs or hit profit targets, they can't make $1m profit by selling 1m units with a $1 profit margin, since they might only be able to sell 50,000 units, therefore will need to increase margins by 20-fold. Tighter consumer affairs laws means higher costs to satisfy those laws, it's much easier to return a product due to not meeting statutory warranty and merchantability criteria, therefore that costs more money to handle which have to be paid for by increasing prices.

There's a GST, a VAT, but it's only 10% compared to many EU countries 25% VAT. However, there are no additional local sales-taxes that have to be paid that some countries allow individual states and even towns to levy.

Local customizations and regulations cost money. So while to meet a US FCC regulation might cost $1m spread over 10m units, it might still cost an equivalent amount, $1m, to mee Australian equivalents, but they have to recoup that $1m from 500k units instead of spreading it over 10m units.

And, finally, because the companies/businesses just can. It's a captive market. Often there might be a single distributor for the entire country (due to the aforementioned volume issues) rather than a dozen competing against each other like in Europe or North America. If I was a local business could I maybe buy my product from the Singaporean distributor rather than the sole, ripoff charging Australian distributor? Sure. But then I'd have to pay freight from Singapore (which already had to pay freight from Taiwan to get it to Singapore), I wouldn't have the backup of the manufacturer because it's not an 'Australian SKU', therefore that'd cost more to have to cover that support.