AMD's upcoming AM5 socket for Raphael processors appears to lack PCIe 5.0 support

Rayneofpayne

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Back then intel had only 16 lanes on the CPU while AMD offered 4 more direct lanes for the NVME drive. Intel only recently added 4 more lanes for their consumer CPUs so you were forced to use the chipset lanes for the I/O.

And it seems that only the GPU will get PCIe 5.0, the extra 4 lanes will be PCIe 4.0 like on AMD. This means that NVME drives will still be made only for PCIe 4.0.

I/O is the only place I see an use for PCIe 5.0 for the next few years (until 2025 maybe) and Intel is not directly making use of it there (maybe only in niche NVME cards for PCIe slots, but it isn't really for regular consumers)
Correct and incorrect,
Prosumer get the tech first then it filters to regular consumer levels.
Either way throwing 2x **60 or even **50 class cards in a multi gpu config is for consumers that can increase what graphics are currently capable of.

Either way still too shortsighted.
 

Puiu

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Read on the technology and understand what it is capable of especially when correlating to co-processors in this case GPUs and why SLI and Crossfire sucked.

If all you are seeing is this for use for data centers you are incredibly short sighted.

This is just plain useless, if you want anything to progress there are 1 of 2 ways 1 deals with GPUs moving from monolithic design to chiplet/mxm design or to make more efficiently the PCIe bus communications at the lowest level removing the need for complex bandaids.
Yeah, until I see any evidence of something happening contrary to what I said, everything I said still stands. I know what the tech does, I just don't see it being used for gaming anytime soon if ever.
 

fps4ever

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Yeah, until I see any evidence of something happening contrary to what I said, everything I said still stands. I know what the tech does, I just don't see it being used for gaming anytime soon if ever.

You can't argue with paper experts that are so forward thinking it is almost incomprehensible to us peasants. Even more so when they are so condescending in their brilliance.
 

Rayneofpayne

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Yeah, until I see any evidence of something happening contrary to what I said, everything I said still stands. I know what the tech does, I just don't see it being used for gaming anytime soon if ever.
So Intel doing an entire press conference based specifically on the benefits of using it for gaming and such consumer use, apparently was a complete waste of time.
Look you aren't going to see this on something like Z series motherboards where you are capped at x16 5.0 lanes you'll see this on HEDT and AMD X series before anything it's still early for starters and enterprise features ALWAYS eventually trickle down to consumer level especially when they are a game changer. If for 2 seconds you don't think AMD, Intel, and NVidia don't want to progress what graphics are capable of let alone selling double graphics cards you are delusional. It's more money in their pockets. Money is a great motivator when the implementation is cheap enough, and this is cheaper than throwing billions into Chiplet and MXM redesigns is the short term
 

Puiu

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So Intel doing an entire press conference based specifically on the benefits of using it for gaming and such consumer use, apparently was a complete waste of time.
Look you aren't going to see this on something like Z series motherboards where you are capped at x16 5.0 lanes you'll see this on HEDT and AMD X series before anything it's still early for starters and enterprise features ALWAYS eventually trickle down to consumer level especially when they are a game changer. If for 2 seconds you don't think AMD, Intel, and NVidia don't want to progress what graphics are capable of let alone selling double graphics cards you are delusional. It's more money in their pockets. Money is a great motivator when the implementation is cheap enough, and this is cheaper than throwing billions into Chiplet and MXM redesigns is the short term
So if we aren't going to see it for consumers anytime soon, why are speaking about it now? You are literally confirming everything I said: it's not going to be used in the consumer market, it's for the datacenter.

As for being cheaper than spending "billions in chiplets", you do realize that those billions are required by both AMD and Intel to be spent to stay competitive, right?

The TL;DR: Multi GPU gaming systems (multiple cards) are not coming back, PCIe 5.0 won't change that. That feature will be brilliant for deep learning datacenters.

You are clearly too obsessed with CXL. It won't be used the way you think it will (I don't even understand how you got to a magical rebirth if multi GPU gaming when reading about it).
 
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