Another company relaunches the GeForce GT 730 amid graphics card crisis

CrisisDog

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't driver support for the GTX 700 series get dropped? These are already EOL out of the box...
 

Shadowboxer

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't driver support for the GTX 700 series get dropped? These are already EOL out of the box...
Yup. However they will still work as a basic display output. Driver updates are mostly game optimisations and I doubt many people are planning to play games released after support dropped on these cards. You don’t need specific updates for general desktop use for the most part. It’s also highly unlikely that they will work with Windows 11 (I haven’t looked into it personally).

Also for businesses they probably still have enterprise support. We have that for our older Quadro GPUs in the office. Legacy support for enterprise and business use usually costs a lot though, far more than licensing and support for current solutions.
 
Would be nice if there was less variation in performance for a particular model.
I got burned a couple years ago when I bought a GT 730 to replace my aging GT 240. Several generations newer, so it should be better. WRONG. My framerates were actually worse, though some new games started to work, due to higher level OpenGL.
After troubleshooting, I found out that my GT 730 uses the GF108 Maxwell based chip, the same chip as the GT 420. I went from 96:32:8 to 48:16:4
I should have reviewed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nvidia_graphics_processing_units#GeForce_700_series prior to making a purchase, I would have been better off buying a GT720, as they apparently don't have the older chips mixed in for that model.
 

pcnthuziast

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Every day that passes I feel more and more content with being able to get a 3060 through newegg shuffle for a little over 500. Not exactly a beast, but certainly a very cappable card that has done everything I want it to.
 

Beerfloat

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't driver support for the GTX 700 series get dropped? These are already EOL out of the box...
Not exactly. Kepler is on a long term release branch based on the 470 driver set and will get updates until 2024.

BTW these cards are GT not GTX.
 

captaincranky

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Sure, for a number of reasons. Which include that these cards provide dedicated VRAM, while your IGP takes a chunk of your system memory. And they allow you to use modern Nvidia drivers, and come with a decent H264 decoder. There are versions with VGA/HDMI/DisplayPort to fit one's need. And this GPU is still about twice as fast in 3D, for what it's worth.
My incompetence notwithstanding, I haven't been lucky, or anywhere successful getting any of the the 3 7xx series cards I've bought and attempted to install working..

However, both of the 1000 series I've bought, simply dropped in and worked right off the bat.

I already have a GT-730 from MSI, (the older 2 GB DDR-3 re-release which I managed to buy fot $50.00 when they were first reissued. For all I know, these junkers might have been stock defectives

I could go on for pages about the grief the GT-730 has caused me, and a "rotgut" GT-710 which never worked at all. . A "low mileage, one owner", (me) GTX-750 ti took a crap when I added memory (!!) to a board, about 2 months after the warranty expired . Trust me, this machine barely ran at all, and certainly was never subjected to the rigors on mining.

EDIT: I'm quite aware of the fact that a card's Vram will extend the available system RAM. That\s why I bought the 730. However, it was for my web box (32 bit Win7), which is on a G-41 board. It only has Pcie x 4. Which you would think would be OK but, the x 16 slot, only has contacts about halfway back. :confused: So, I had analog output, but no DVI. I figured, "what the hell, who needs digital,, I still get the 2 gigs of extra RAM". It worked fine for a couple of weeks, then the video driver quit, so I had to pull it. I got VGA & digital out on a P-43 mobo, However with a 1080p monitor, the max digital out was 1600 x 1200..! That's when I gave up.

So, I'm really skeered to try and stuff the thing in my i3-3225 system, which has 16 GB of RAM anyway.

I appreciate the things you're telling me. But, I have two new billion color monitors, and the lowest card I can get for 10 bit color, is a GTX-1050. Since they're "on sale" ATM,for $280.00, (twice the price I paid for the one I already have), I'm gonna hold off a bit on that. To get 10 bit color, you have to get a special driver, something with a 5xx.xx sumpin,sumpin, number.

Besides, even on an old i3-530 "Clarkdale" rig, a GT-1030 was a turnkey install.. I paid $85 for an Asus 1030. Last tme I checked they were $115.00, and made of "unobtanium".
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Beerfloat

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My incompetence notwithstanding, I haven't been lucky, or anywhere successful getting any of the the 3 7xx series cards I've bought and attempted to install working..

However, both of the 1000 series I've bought, simply dropped in and worked right off the bat.
Woah, sorry to hear about your issues with the 7xx Cranky. Bad luck or some incompatibility maybe. Mine have been fine but I did have a 1650 in one system that just would not work right and had to be replaced.
 

captaincranky

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That was an interesting link you posted. So, while I was there I looked up a few other Intel IGPs, and the later GT-1030.
The Intel HD-530 eats the 730 for breakfast, although the 730, , (as you pointed out) surpasses the earlier HD-4000. The 1030 does win against the HD 530.

Thus, as I suspected, the GT-1030 is quite a bit superior to the 730. Those dealers who aren't trying to scalp the 1030 card, don't have it. Funnily enough, the 1030s which are available are shipping from China. One has to question if they are re-boxed used mining cards...
 

theruck

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That was an interesting link you posted. So, while I was there I looked up a few other Intel IGPs, and the later GT-1030.
The Intel HD-530 eats the 730 for breakfast, although the 730, , (as you pointed out) surpasses the earlier HD-4000. The 1030 does win against the HD 530.

Thus, as I suspected, the GT-1030 is quite a bit superior to the 730. Those dealers who aren't trying to scalp the 1030 card, don't have it. Funnily enough, the 1030s which are available are shipping from China. One has to question if they are re-boxed used mining cards...
yes 730 is trash but 4 displays you dont get anywhere (if that is real)
 

captaincranky

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yes 730 is trash but 4 displays you dont get anywhere (if that is real)
I would check the "maximum digital resolution " numbers before anyone decided it was "4 full displays". We know it's .not going to put up, "4 times 4K" In fact, I doubt it would put up 4 times 2K.

I'll give Asus credit for reconfiguring the GPU to accommodate 4 displays. We know it won't game worth a crap. But, if it bails out people in need of graphics for smaller work stations it will help a certain segment of users, I suppose it's worthwhile.

That said, apparently even Intel IGPs HD-530 and above will outperform it. But then again anything HD-4000 and below, won't.
 

Xelions

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Is that pic for real - can you actually install 3 cards onto a single motherboard? 12 displays to the 1 system!? What about bandwidth? How does this card or what card would match up to a Ryzen 5 5600G's graphic capability? - Looking to build a 2nd system on a budget and with graphic card prices was thinking a CPU with a GPU might be a better option for now and just upgrade later.
 

captaincranky

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Is that pic for real - can you actually install 3 cards onto a single motherboard? 12 displays to the 1 system!? What about bandwidth? How does this card or what card would match up to a Ryzen 5 5600G's graphic capability? - Looking to build a 2nd system on a budget and with graphic card prices was thinking a CPU with a GPU might be a better option for now and just upgrade later.
One member @theruck posted the link below. The IGP you're looking is probably on there, and you can compare it directly with the 730.

Do keep in mind however, this new Asus is configured a bit differently than the older models. For one thing, it has 4 GB of GDDR-5.