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Apple could be interested in Tesla's massive new battery Gigafactory

By Justin Kahn · 10 replies
Mar 3, 2014
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  1. Electric car company Tesla has announced its plans to build a massive 10-million square foot battery manufacturing facility. The company expects the new Gigafactory to bring the cost of lithium-ion based batteries down due to the large scale of the...

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  2. wastedkill

    wastedkill TS Evangelist Posts: 1,423   +350

    I think apple should go with Tesla to be honest it seems like a match made in heaven! Plus who could argue with a little lower cost of the iphones ;)
  3. MilwaukeeMike

    MilwaukeeMike TS Evangelist Posts: 2,840   +1,184

    The price of an iphone is not based on what it costs to make, it's based on what people will pay. Cheaper batteries mean higher margins and more profit for Apple, not a lower price... at least not in the US.

    This story doesn't have any new facts in it. Last week we heard about Apple talking to Tesla and figured they might buy them. Now it seems as though someone realized that Tesla is making a battery factory, and that Apple uses a lot of batteries and then put two and two together. But there's still no evidence of that.

    Tesla doesn't need Apple's help in financing the factory. There are four states in the southwest US where the factory might be placed all competing for it. They will be offering tax rebates and all sorts of incentives. Also, Tesla has recently issued $1.6 billion in convertible bonds to pay for their factory. Their last round of convertible bonds made a ton for it's investors. If Apple hasn't already bought some, there probably aren't any left.
    misor and p3ngwin like this.
  4. wastedkill

    wastedkill TS Evangelist Posts: 1,423   +350

    Either way its good news... The iphone is also looking more like a good choice of phone simply because I love the UI...
  5. MilwaukeeMike

    MilwaukeeMike TS Evangelist Posts: 2,840   +1,184

    Oh, for sure. I'm not an Apple user, but I'm glad to see technology in the car moving forward. Tech companies seem to do a good job of jumping on the latest band wagon, and that'll mean a few options for us in the future.
  6. wastedkill

    wastedkill TS Evangelist Posts: 1,423   +350

    I am pretty much same I have a galaxy phone, imac for web dev and programming and a gaming PC for well gaming and browsing etc. but the new Iphone does seem interesting but I do hope apple do use that $150+bill of cash in improving their devices and services.
  7. p3ngwin

    p3ngwin TS Enthusiast Posts: 26   +8

    Tesla will be making Li-Ion 18650 (the fat cylindrical ones similar to AA's) batteries, not anything that will fit in a mobile phone.

    This rumour is bullcrap.
  8. bexwhitt

    bexwhitt TS Guru Posts: 322   +63

    Just because Tesla are using the cylindrical type Li-Ion now does not mean they will going forward, If you are making your own you will make them as cheaply as possible which would be flat slabs probably
  9. apart from the fact Tesla have patented their lithium battery technology for using 18650 batteries, even if they do transition to "flat slabs", that doesn't mean they will be small and thin batteries suitable for mobile phones.

    This is what Lithium-based batteries look like for cars:





    So your idea of somehow "flat slabs=suitable for mobiles", is nonsense.
  10. misor

    misor TS Evangelist Posts: 1,232   +229

    Diversification is the latest strategy of these companies:
    Samsung = phone/tv/computer/household appliances, tizen phone OS, also supplies display needs of competitors

    Microsoft = "we are a software and device company"

    Apple = desktop/phone OS and device company, interested in energy corporation?

    also, is lithium-based battery technology still in and no major alternative tech in sight?
    (as far as I can recall, li is already around since I was small... and so are ni-cadmium; how about miniaturized car battery for phone use? :) don't know much about battery tech so I'm grasping at straws here :) )
  11. Maybe apple wants their iPhone not just a smartphone, but also as powerbank? so, when your electric car is run out of juice, you can just plug your iPhone to your electric car, then voila.. your car is charging!!
    wastedkill likes this.

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