Argument over Diablo II game led to man fatally shooting his friend of 26 years

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cliffordcooley

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"Video games make you violent" is as legitimate a position as "vaccines cause autism."
Apples to oranges. There is no possible link where autism can create vaccines. Our violent nature does however create video games. Where it then breeds and cultivates those tendencies.

And you have no proof that vaccines do not cause autism. You are so blinded by all the hyped up talk of doing good. You will completely ignore all the negative side effects. To me that is no different than this kid ignoring all the negatives and responsibilities of owning a gun. Medicines effect people differently. And here you are making a blanket statement that vaccines will not do the same. Yeah I don't think you are thinking that through.
 

captaincranky

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Apples to oranges. There is no possible link where autism can create vaccines. Our violent nature does however create video games. Where it then breeds and cultivates those tendencies.

And you have no proof that vaccines do not cause autism. You are so blinded by all the hyped up talk of doing good. You will completely ignore all the negative side effects. To me that is no different than this kid ignoring all the negatives and responsibilities of owning a gun. Medicines effect people differently. And here you are making a blanket statement that vaccines will not do the same. Yeah I don't think you are thinking that through.
Here's the thing, vaccines have eliminated one of humanity's greatest scourges, "smallpox".

Thus, it's not logical to assume that big pharma's motivation is anything other than what it has always been, lust for money.

However, big pharma's screw ups regarding unintended consequences, are legendary, and graphically illustrated by Thalidomide, and the horrific birth defects it caused. But then again, I think patients were instructed not to take it during pregnancy.

Personally, I'm more likely to entertain the "conspiracy theory", that drug makers were the ones to release this so they could reap the profits from creating vaccines. (As opposed to the "autism" dogma).

The incidence of autism has been increasing in the American populous, but that was observed long before covid. So a direct connection between covid vaccines and autism, (if it exists at all), is most likely years away.

Generally, viral diseases spread by aerosol means, are less lethal than those transmitted by serum infection. A more explicit demonstration of this is to ask yourself, "which is more deadly, rabies, malaria, HIV, or the common cold and the measles"?

With the advent of the "Omicron" variant being (ostensibly), less deadly, but more transmissible, than prior variants, we may be seeing this viral mutation already taking place.

But then, who are you going to believe, the guy down the street with the Nazi flag on his porch,, a former president who claimed we might be able to cure it by injecting bleach, or a epidemiologist who's been in that business pushing 60 years?

But hey, if you want to test the theory of "herd or acquired immunity" by contracting covid once or many times, who am I to say you shouldn't do it that way?

I'm misanthropic to the point, I could absolutely care less who of the human species dies from covid, or anything else. But when I hear of zoo animals contracting it from their keepers and dying from it, that really pisses me off.
 
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waclark

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I'm fairly certain you can't hear the 44 Khz sampling, especially at our relative ages. I'm certain that if you were tested in a double blind, you cold pick out the CD versus the record every time. But not for that reason. And let's agree that, "sounds better", is subjective..
At this stage of the game my hearing is pretty shot. Tinnitus, exposure to loud noises at work (I used to work in a pallet manufacturing plant, pneumatic nail guns and industrial sized saws going 8-10 hours a day).

I have been reading up about mastering recordings and things that had to be done to fit music on records as well as CDs. It's interesting, but I think the overall point is that sampling is exactly that, a sample of the sound wave. Yes, "sounds better" is subjective but I believe that analog recordings more accurately capture the sound, but as you say, it may not even matter (certainly not for me with bad ears).
I've been to see the Who on several occasions. And in that context you could tell the recording from the live performance immediately. (**) The dynamic range went away, as well as a lot of detail in the high end.CDs to their advantage, can come closer to reproducing the dynamic range of live music as well as obtain a greatly superior S/N ratio. As to whether sound recording engineers are willing to take advantage of this, or piss it away, is another matter altogether.

(**) This is also true of other performer's concerts I've attended. And no, I sincerely don't believe they were holding back the recorded tracks, to make the artist live sound better

Yes, but those bands were the exceptions, not the rule. You can certainly listen yo, "Tommy", or "Quadrophenia", from start to finish. (For that matter even "Sellout"). But for every one of those bands, there were ten "one hit wonders", that studio execs regarded as, "product". Millions of people would place "Led Zeppelin" in the "all the way through" category. As for myself, I don't want to listen to Jimmy Page's sh!t, until he picks up a 12 string.
I heard Pete Townsend has a major hearing problem that may impact his ability to perform. I one saw the Righteous Brothers, long after their heyday and when they sang Unchained Melody it was painful as the lead singer tried to hit the high notes, and failed.
Well, IMO, some artists don't even have "album filler". There are several bands with concept albums that I just push "play", and the band works its magic. :Kamelot" stands out to me in this regard. "Horslips", is another on two of its albums anyway. The album that the band claimed almost got them fired, "Short Stories and Tall Tales", is my favorite. Yeah, I color outside the lines. :confused:
There's a lot of albums that are just albums, to be sure. I just like seeing who is playing on the album, any "history" or stories of the band and so forth. I think this was far more popular in the late 60s and 70s than music released today.
As for a CD's targeting breaks, if they annoy you that much, rip it to lossless, put it into "Audacity", then prepare to settle in for a few hours, and eliminate them.

Well, I just lost my job, my wife is leaving me, my dog just bit me, so I'm going to escape by playing this FPS, and this a**hole just pissed me off to the breaking point, Lemme see now, where's my gun..... So, yeah, a video game could be the trigger under a severely serious confluence of circumstances.
Yea, like I said, several external factors exacerbated by a violent fantasy world of shooting and killing.
 

captaincranky

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I heard Pete Townsend has a major hearing problem that may impact his ability to perform. I one saw the Righteous Brothers, long after their heyday and when they sang Unchained Melody it was painful as the lead singer tried to hit the high notes, and failed.
An anecdote behind that is, Townshend claims his hearing problems were caused in large part, by screwing around in the studio making demos, using headphones. (And that gets the :rolleyes: ) I'm actually certain that standing in front of a battery of 200 watt "Hiwatts" turned up to "11 (or 12)", should have nothing to do with it...again with the :rolleyes:

"Quadrophenia" is available on Blu-ray. You would be amazed at the stage arrangement regarding individual instrument isolation required to effectively reproduce the studio version. Everybody's behind plexi, in one way or another. The originato 4 piece band, (rather obviously), couldn't reproduce the album without PA backing tracks.

https://www.amazon.com/Quadrophenia...t=&hvlocphy=9007331&hvtargid=pla-492202454322

If you heard Emmy Lou Harris sing today, you would be asking yourself, "who the f**k is that"? Ian Anderson, can barely hit C4, and he sounds like Bob Dylan with a cold. All those "arena rock tenor's" voices are going to go to hell in a handbag, one day, or another. Tis' the price of fame.

Although this is well off topic, see if you can come up with the answer as to whether this is a song about catching a horse, or shooting heroin


Back to topic. I think I'm going to buy me some first person shooter games.. But since the heaviest video card I have is a GTX-1050ti, I'm hoping it won't me too dangerous. I know the other kidz in the class would just laugh and say, "screw you, we've been playing that game on the GTX-1080 tis our parents bought us, and we brought our guns to school too"
 

Rayneofpayne

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This is one of my posts from the TicTok thread

Speak for yourself. Oh, you were. Never mind. People such as myself do get jaded after awhile. .For example, I cheer when our fair city sets a new murder record. Then I'm amazed when the "community" thinks that the answer to the problem is to dole out money to them "to fix the problem". Well, if the parents didn't pitch crack and smack out the front door and leave guns laying around the house while their budding sociopaths were growing up, we'd have far less of a problem.

Of course after mom gets to jawing on the news claiming her hoodlum son, " could have been president", it kind of dulls their credibility. You think I should have "empathy"? Bullsh!t, I'm just thankful I didn't get in the way of the gunfight.

"Empathy is the emotions illegitimate child" (C.Cranky

And this is a response to a post of mine from "ilovetohateyou"

""ilovetohateyou"" said

"This is the internet. The internet is not America. There are people in the world who speak English who are not American. Some of them even spell words differently.

Try not to embody your username too aptly".
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Talk about getting trolled. Hey, I'm the victim here on this one.

From this very thread.:

I've stated that this was a copy cat killing, as it followed the exact sequence of Kyle Rittenhouse's actions, the night he went to that protest.

As for my personal opinion, if you didn't catch on by now, I think all media is capable of creating violence in a mentally unstable individual, and that it occurs with an antagonizing confluence.of prior events in that individual's life. My only reservation is that video games afford the opportunity to, "practice killing", before undertaking something like say, a school shooting..

So, when I said I would do "absolutely do nothing about it", I thought that the majority shouldn't be deprived of something because one, or even several individuals actions..So basically I don't think video games cause violence to the great majority of gamers, but they certainly can serve as a trigger., (within a confluence of events, in certain individuals).

Anyway, I really enjoy being told what I'm supposed to think, or allowed to post, or be told "I'm trolling", by someone who is selectively quoting me instead of taking everything I've said into context.

How mad did my posts make you?

If you had me in front of you, would you beat me up?

Would you shoot me?

I mean after all, you're "Reign of payne". And with you throwing around the "T word", you must be pretty upset.

Or is, "I better shut up if I say something you don't like or misunderstand" the passive extent of it?


People love to key in on my screen name's connotations. Especially people who call themselves, "rayne of pain", or, "ilovetohateyou". Hey, we all have ego issues, I'll deal with mine, if y'all promise to deals with yours
Stop insinuating, it's a user name that is all, but I akin it more to Sting and the police "King of Pain" if you must truly know why I use it.
Know Violence is only to be used as a direct recourse of violence, you have the right to your opinion, unlike some I believe in the rights and amendments and the tenants that they represent, I don't have the right to infringe on your rights but God be damned I have the right to look you in the eyes and call you a fool. If you see Evil everywhere then look into the mirror very closely you seriously might have issues, also Rittenhouse case he did absolutely nothing wrong In fact grown men should have been doing what he did oh wait men and the government abdicated their responsibilities, people have a right to protest, legally, not to riot, and commit felonies and in fact some of them including whom he shot were criminals, this is a case of people want the cake an to eat it to, you make choices there are consequences, people have become morally and ethically bankrupt. No one should ever have to live in fear let alone have their livelihood taken away from them by a mob.
 

captaincranky

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Stop insinuating, it's a user name that is all, but I akin it more to Sting and the police "King of Pain" if you must truly know why I use it.
So, the pot calls the kettle black, but claims the high ground anyway?
Evil everywhere then look into the mirror very closely you seriously might have issues, also Rittenhouse case he did absolutely nothing wrong In fact grown men should have been doing what he did oh wait men and the government abdicated their responsibilities,
I find it very disturbing that, a group of people who slay one another by the hundreds, gets to burn cities down without intervention on the part of the national guard, because ONE cop killed ONE, "citizen".

If we were truly "civilized", Derek Chauvin should have been charged with murder, and that should have been the end of the issue. No riots, no looting, and no murals of that ugly SOB George Floyd on delicatessen walls..

But that tear less fit of imaginary sorrow and regret that Rittenhouse put out on the stand, should have been enough to convict him, in and of itself.

I'm a "centrist" that firmly believes that Trump's followers and the "BLM" movement, are north and south poles of the same turd.

As for the acronym, "BLM".that could just as easily suffice as medical shorthand for "bowel movement".
 

Rayneofpayne

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So, the pot calls the kettle black, but claims the high ground anyway?

I find it very disturbing that, a group of people who slay one another by the hundreds, gets to burn cities down without intervention on the part of the national guard, because ONE cop killed ONE, "citizen".

If we were truly "civilized", Derek Chauvin should have been charged with murder, and that should have been the end of the issue. No riots, no looting, and no murals of that ugly SOB George Floyd on delicatessen walls..

But that tear less fit of imaginary sorrow and regret that Rittenhouse put out on the stand, should have been enough to convict him, in and of itself.

I'm a "centrist" that firmly believes that Trump's followers and the "BLM" movement, are north and south poles of the same turd.

As for the acronym, "BLM".that could just as easily suffice as medical shorthand for "bowel movement".

So, the pot calls the kettle black, but claims the high ground anyway?

I find it very disturbing that, a group of people who slay one another by the hundreds, gets to burn cities down without intervention on the part of the national guard, because ONE cop killed ONE, "citizen".

If we were truly "civilized", Derek Chauvin should have been charged with murder, and that should have been the end of the issue. No riots, no looting, and no murals of that ugly SOB George Floyd on delicatessen walls..

But that tear less fit of imaginary sorrow and regret that Rittenhouse put out on the stand, should have been enough to convict him, in and of itself.

I'm a "centrist" that firmly believes that Trump's followers and the "BLM" movement, are north and south poles of the same turd.

As for the acronym, "BLM".that could just as easily suffice as medical shorthand for "bowel movement".
You do not understand law.
Chauvin was not guilty of murder, man slaughter yes, it was an unintentional death, not premeditated, just try to prove it otherwise in a court that isn't a mob justice 3 ring circus, Homicide merely means a death in the presence of another person. Floyd was a felon with a history of violence, theft, assault, and armed robbery, his skin color had little to do with his death, he made choices and paid the ultimate consequence. He died from a drug overdose shutting down his Respiratory system. That is made 100% evident by tox. reports and the autopsy. Chauvin's fault There-in lies a improper failure to respond accordingly.
Huh? You made an insinuation to violence from a user name, not the same in any regard. You can try as hard as you want to, but you keep digging yourself deeper.
 
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