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ASUS A7N8X Deluxe - Need some help guys.

By Sevlow · 30 replies
Feb 18, 2007
  1. So I've got a a7n8x deluxe and i really dont feel like im fully optimizing this great mobo.
    ive got 2 256 ddr sticks in it with an AMD 1.2gig processor and a Geforce 4 TI 4200 with agp 8x video card, im really lagging behind when it comes to playing games and even lately running programs gets slower and slower, i havent upgraded a thing on this baby for years now and i think its dire time for me to upgrade.
    Anyway my question is, what would be the cheapest and easiest upgrades I could get/you would suggest i get to help bring me back to my gaming glory days.

    -P.S- I'd especially love to be able to play battlefield 2 on high settings flawlessly.
  2. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 5,397   +37

    If running programs seems slower, maybe you have too much spyware etc running? As for playing BF2 (and other games) flawlessly, I would recommend selling ur processor, video card, RAM and motherboard and getting a brand new mobo like the ASUS P5B, an NVIDIA GeForce 7600GT, a minimum of 1GB of DDR2 RAM (2GB dual-channel kit recommended), and a Core 2 Duo E6300 or E4300. Shouldn't cost you more than $800. And that PC would be more than capable of playing BF2 maxed out quite smoothly. Here are some links:
    Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 Conroe 1.86GHz LGA 775 Processor Model BX80557E6300 - Retail

    FSP Group (Fortron Source) AX450-PN, 12cm FAN, version 2.2, 2 SATA, PCI Express, 450W Power Supply - Retail
    (for that new video card)

    EVGA 256-P2-N615-TX GeForce 7600GT 256MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail

    ASUS P5B LGA 775 Intel P965 Express ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

    OCZ S.O.E 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model OCZ2SOE8002GK - Retail
    Grand Total= $610 after rebates
    I hope it helped! :)

    P.S.-> I assume you will be using the HDD, keyboard etc. from your old PC so I haven't linked you to any. But if you want, I can do that too.
  3. Sevlow

    Sevlow TS Rookie Topic Starter

    ah i was actually hoping to salvage the rig i was on, is it that outdated that i cant upgrade cheaper, or would buying a whole new rig really be the cheaper and better way to go?
  4. kitty500cat

    kitty500cat TS Evangelist Posts: 1,391   +6

    It seems lots of people have problems with PCs running slower and slower, which is often caused by spyware, viruses, etc. How about posting a HijackThis log?
  5. beef_jerky4104

    beef_jerky4104 Banned Posts: 782

    You rcomputer is massively behind. Everything in your PC is about 3 generations old.

    So it is far better to build a new computer than to "try" and upgrade your current setup.
  6. onesmartidiot

    onesmartidiot TS Enthusiast Posts: 95

    i have a a7n8x deluxe with an athlon xp 2500+ (1.8ghz)and 2 sticks of 512 ram (they arent dual channel, ones 333mhz the other 400) and a radeon 9800 se 256 mb. i can play call of duty 2 smoothly and i can run encore dvd, photoshop cs2, and premiere pro without a problem.

    i would keep your board and your 512 memory, buy a 8x geforce 7 series (would work better with the nforce chipset than an ati i think) and upgrade your 1.2 ghz to an athlon xp 3000 or somthing. buying the video card and processor would probably be over 200 bucks and your machine would last another 2 or 3 years.

    i would also backup your files and nuke windows so that you had a fresh start with no spyware. i nuke my machines about every 6 months because windows is a very messy o/s and gets very unefficient very quickly.

    and my 2 cents on the core 2 duo machine, they are very nice and quick, just make sure you get memory with timings of 5-5-5 or 6-6-6 and stay away from SATA hard drives, ive never had good experiece with them. the e6400 core 2 duo is the best bang for your buck, but a killer system will run you about 800 bucks. i would redo the asus machine before trashing it and buying a new one.
  7. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 5,397   +37

    I recommend an upgrade since AGP cards are more expensive than their PCI-E counterparts. Also, DDR RAM has now become a lot more expensive than DDR2, which is the main reason I suggested an upgrade. If you cannot afford an upgrade, then try onesmart*****'s suggestions out. But to just play a game, and play it with all the graphics settings turned up are two different things. You just have to decide what you want.
  8. Tedster

    Tedster Techspot old timer..... Posts: 5,746   +14

    a decent video card like a top of the line AGP and a cpu upgrade to a 3200+ would cost around $200. You should get more life out the board. I would add another 512 (1gb). But ensure it is two matched 512s.
  9. onesmartidiot

    onesmartidiot TS Enthusiast Posts: 95

    yes, newer parts are cheaper than old parts. pci is faster and about 1/3 less than agp in price. so if you want the fastest system on the block then build a new machine. but its more logical to soup up what you have than to build a new one (unless you sell/ part out the old system)

    i personally like maxing out my machines before i build new ones. or else id have like 50 machines :p
  10. Sevlow

    Sevlow TS Rookie Topic Starter

    yeah i really dont wanna trash the mobo just yet, i think ill try taking onesmart*****s advice and see if i can take advantage of my dual channel's with two 512's
    any reccomendations on what kinda processor i should get? and video card?
    ill go shopping on new egg to see what theyve got.
  11. nickc

    nickc TechSpot Paladin Posts: 921   +11

    the 7800 GS would be a good video card, although not inexpensive. (not giving links) if that is a 754 socket board, which I think it is, at least a 3200+ or 3400+ if one can be found. You also need 2 gigs of ram. (PC3200mem)and that could be wrong as I have not studied that board.
  12. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 5,397   +37

    A 7800GS would be quite bottlenecked by any Athlon XP processor. I would recommend this 6800GT or this 7600GT from Newegg and this Athlon XP 2800+ from ZipZoomFly.
  13. AlanH

    AlanH TS Rookie

    What you could do if upgrade the graphics card that would give you a major boost any agp graphics card will work, you can buy an Athlon XP 3200+ on ebay for about £50 (runs at 2.2ghz) as well as another 512ram would be good, you will need to flash the bios tho before the board will run the 3200+.

    To add, my old rig was Athlon XP 3200+ 1gb Ram and Radeon 9600 Pro 256mb card with the Asus A7N8X Deluxe motherboard, If you are upgrading the cpu I recommend you get a very good fan as well as 2 case fans for optimal performance, all in you are talking about £220 if you ebay the parts about £280 if you buy new, my old rig was able to run battlefield 2 on low graphics, and counterstrike source everything on high and day of defeat source on medium with solid 60fps.
  14. nickc

    nickc TechSpot Paladin Posts: 921   +11

    Rage_3K_Moiz, I would agree with you on the bottleneck for the 7800 GS, but I am running one and like it very well on the system in my profile. but that 7600GT is a good card too and I know he would be proud of it.
  15. Sevlow

    Sevlow TS Rookie Topic Starter

    hm, so from what im getting, 1 gig of ram, 7600 gt video card and the Athlon XP 3200+ should set me up pretty well?
  16. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 5,397   +37

    Yeah, I think that should be enough. The 7600GT seems to be losing out on paper but in real-life tests, it wipes the floor with the 6800GT. So I think that and the 3200+ would be ur best bet.
  17. JimShady23

    JimShady23 TS Maniac Posts: 360

    Athlon XP 3200

    Yeah by todays standards athon xp's are nothing special, but they are still a powerful CPU. The only problem is going to be finding one. Most retailers that still have them charge a small fortune basically because they dont make them anymore and people in you situation need them. ZipZoomFly wants $159 for a 2800+ for Pete's sake !!!!!!!! Those where just $95 3 years ago !!!!

    Id see if I can find a deal on Ebay one a 3200+
  18. AlanH

    AlanH TS Rookie

  19. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 5,397   +37

    The eBay deal seems quite good. I'd take it if I were you.
  20. Sevlow

    Sevlow TS Rookie Topic Starter

    anyone know if the xp 32 works for my mobo? once again A7N8X Deluxe
    oh and thanks guys for all the help, with my tax returns coming soon looks like im going to invest it into making my decades old rig into something more than decent once more =D
  21. JimShady23

    JimShady23 TS Maniac Posts: 360


    Your board was the premier board back in the end of the socket A days, along with the Abit NF7-S....It has a 400mhz FSB NF2 chipset and is allows great overclocks....So yes the 3200 will work fine.

    If its any comfort I played Doom 3 with rather high settings on my Athon XP 2500 oc'ed to a 3200 with a 6800GT.

    So with that said you will still get some decent performance out of your machine with a 3200 and a 7600GT.

    Also check e-bay for the Athlon XP 3000+ with 400mhz FSB, they made a few of them also and it might be cheaper than the 3200.
  22. Tedster

    Tedster Techspot old timer..... Posts: 5,746   +14

    I disagree. I have a 7800s GS with an Athlon 3200+ XP processor. It runs quite fast. I bought my card off ebay used for around $230 about 6 months ago.

    Athlon XP chips are getting hard to find. Most of the good ones were snapped up a while ago because they were easily overclockable - especially the 2500+ ones. I don't OC at all.
  23. JimShady23

    JimShady23 TS Maniac Posts: 360


    That is true Tedster....Back when the Athlon Xp's were being closed out the 2500+ could be had for as little as $50 for a retail cpu....

    Many people where buying them up, slapping them in a Abit NF7-S oc'ing them to a 3200+ and selling systems on ebay for a lot more than they where worth, all in the while people didnt realise they where getting a OC'ed 2500+

    In the NF7-S bios, it gave you a direct choice to boot the 2500 as is or run it as a 3200+ with no tweaking of the bios what so ever. Just select, save, restart and you had an instant 3200+ (even posted that way, not like some boards that would just say somthing like "Athlon XP 2.1ghz" when you OC'ed) Buyers couldnt tell unless they tinkered around with the bios a bit....But not many people buying prebuilts do that.

    The thermal output was only about 2C hotter when you OC'ed the 2500 to a 3200 so that wasnt an issue either.
  24. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 5,397   +37

    Tedster, you might think it runs fast but have you tried using the card with an X2 or even a single-core Athlon 64? I can bet you that you'll see much better performance. For a GPU as fast as the 7800GS, you need an equally capable CPU to keep up, which I doubt the Athlon XP can do. So getting an X800GTO or a 6800GT or even a 7600GT will help utilize the full potential of that particular card with an Athlon XP. However, if he has a monitor that supports ultra-high resolutions like 1600x1200 and the Athlon XP is OCable, he might be able to remove most of the bottleneck. It really depends on him.
  25. Sevlow

    Sevlow TS Rookie Topic Starter

    and sadly no, i dont have a monitor that can XD geez, i bid on that ebay cpu, bid ended around 170! from the 98 that it was when he posted the link, good god.
    well some guys locally selling a computer as follow
    AMD Athlon 64 3500+
    512MB DDR2
    160GB SATA
    Dual Layer DVD Burner
    Windows VISTA Home Basic
    and hes only asking 350 so i think i might pick it up, i duno, sound like a good deal? but gosh ill miss that sexy voice telling me my cpu fan failed haha
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