being monitored

By elfi ยท 19 replies
Aug 6, 2007
  1. i think that my msn chat's are being monitored but the problem is that i can't find out if this is true.
    Can someone help ?
  2. Tedster

    Tedster Techspot old timer..... Posts: 6,002   +15

    chats are very easy to bug and also to transmit viri. I never use chats.
  3. Bluemouse

    Bluemouse TS Rookie Posts: 195

    monitored by who?
  4. poertner_1274

    poertner_1274 secroF laicepS topShceT Posts: 4,172

    Perhaps you can give us some more information. Also, you have to be careful what you type to others, as you have no way of preventing them from logging the chats.
  5. almcneil

    almcneil TS Guru Posts: 1,277

    If it's a commercial parental control program, then there's usually some notification when you startup and login that you're being monitored. In the least there's an icon in the system tray. Since that's not your case, then it's possible it's hacking.

    What makes you think your IMs are beinbeing monitored?
  6. Bluemouse

    Bluemouse TS Rookie Posts: 195

    It also depends on the situation.

    1) Monitored by work (as in, the computers are all set up for you and connected to the network)
    2) Monitored by your isp (or school network, etc)
    3) Bugged by a hacker
  7. almcneil

    almcneil TS Guru Posts: 1,277

    For #1 & #2, no one monitors your downloads, and it's unlikely they keep track of the sites you visit. The only time I knew someone was monitored happened at a military research facility I worked at. The Internet police ID'd him trading kiddie porn in a chatroom, approached our facility and they installed tracking software to monitor him. Then one day, they walked in and arrested him! He went into shock! The next time I worked there, I couldn't access my web e-mail. Turns out they block EVERYTHING (thanks to him!)

    For #3, you haven't got a clue but so long as you use up to date anti-virus, anti-rootkit and anti-spyware you should be safe.
  8. halo71

    halo71 TS Rookie Posts: 1,090

    al, I can assure you that some companies DO monitor your downloads and track sites you visit! We do this at my work and this is not a military installation either.
  9. elfi

    elfi TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 68

    #1 can be monitored search google "MSN SNIFFER" .and yes #1 is my situation .
  10. jobeard

    jobeard TS Ambassador Posts: 11,168   +986

    Sorry to disagree.

    After 37 years in the commercial side of the industry, my experience as been that
    they have the necessity and frequently publish an Internet Usage Policy stating
    that ALL USAGE, including email is monitored and archived.

    It's their equipment and bandwidth and they make the rules. You implicitly agree
    by continued usage of the facilities that they make available to you for free.
  11. almcneil

    almcneil TS Guru Posts: 1,277

    Let me rephrase my answer.

    Yes, companies state they monitor all Internet use (sites visited, downloads, e-mail, ... ) But SERIOUSLY, they don't really monitor all employers. If they do, it's because there's a reason to! Unless you've been accidentally caught doing something illicit or illegal or they have a reason to believe you are, they don't actually monitor you. There's nowhere near enough manpower to read and review everything employers do on the Internet!
  12. jobeard

    jobeard TS Ambassador Posts: 11,168   +986

    your reasonings are sound enough but just not founded in practice.

    there are new requirements for many companys to monitor and archive all
    email for legal reasons.

    there's no such thing a absoulte security and ... privacy is a close cousin.
  13. elfi

    elfi TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 68

    privacy....privacy is just a word that is totaly lost. I mean it's my msn chat they have no right to read it.
  14. SNGX1275

    SNGX1275 TS Forces Special Posts: 10,742   +421

    The problem is you are at work, if it was at home you maybe would have a legitimate complaint about privacy. I doubt they are actually reading what you type into the chat window simply because that isn't as simple to do as reading your emails or checking what webpages you've visited. They are paying you to work, not to chat.
  15. Sleepsalot

    Sleepsalot TS Rookie

    Any time you use the work PC you have no rights to privacy. They own the machine not you. I don't really like it but that is the real life.

  16. jobeard

    jobeard TS Ambassador Posts: 11,168   +986

    that's true, but the messages
    are in clear text (ie not encrypted). If you really care, then use a service that
    is encrypted :duh:
  17. elfi

    elfi TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 68

    And that service would be?
  18. Cinders

    Cinders TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 872   +12

    Yep your MSN chat on their equipment. No equipment, no chat, they win sorry.

    I have a keylogger/monitor program on my kids machine. It starts on boot without warning, doesn't show in the Task Manager, and isn't listed under installed programs in the control panel. They can't remove or change it because it's password protected, and you have to know the key sequence to get the GUI to come up. Anti-viral, anti-spyware, anti-malware software can't find it. I know it can't find it because I've tried to find it with MicroTrend, Spybot, Ad-Aware. When my kids do stupid stuff on the computer they insist that I don't know what I'm talking about until I show them the logs or read their conservation back to them, then they clam up.

    I use WebWatcher and it works very well. It it expensive at $100.00 but it is well worth it.
  19. jobeard

    jobeard TS Ambassador Posts: 11,168   +986

    Basically PGP encryption or any service operating over SSL (port 443).
  20. Tedster

    Tedster Techspot old timer..... Posts: 6,002   +15

    on the contrary - if you are using a company 's computer, they have a right to monitor anything used on THEIR systems - even "private" chats or emails. This is ensure corporate secrets are not stolen for example or classified information is not leaked. Not to mention, you are SUPPOSED to be working, not chatting. In addition they have a right to ensure their computers are not used for illegal or immoral use. They have a real liability if their employee performs illegal activity. Corporations can be sued for employee wrongdoing and it happens all the time. There are many cases and examples where sensitive company information has been leaked or illegal activity has caused public embarrassment or downfall.
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